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finallyrangie
25th November 2015, 08:19 PM
What do you do with the sway bar once it's disconnected, just let it rest on the bar below (not sure what it's called or is there a preferred method of holding it up?

Thanks as always for any suggestions

davidsonsm
25th November 2015, 08:33 PM
I've seen them tied up with bungee cord.

Keithy P38
25th November 2015, 09:22 PM
Could just disconnect one and leave the other attached... It'll still go up and down but won't limit sway.

finallyrangie
25th November 2015, 10:20 PM
I was wondering about just doing one side, does it still allow decent flex in the front, as long as the free end can't hit anything that would be great .

mtb_gary
26th November 2015, 08:15 AM
I've got the sway bar disconnects on mine after i bent and snapped one of the originals. So far I've not undone them to gain the extra flex. Too lazy I think ;)

finallyrangie
27th November 2015, 11:24 AM
I just thought after going to the trouble of fitting the lift kit I should try it before the enthusiasm ran out, like you I suspect that I'm too lazy to disconnect often.;)

Keithy P38
27th November 2015, 04:19 PM
I have a set that I will be fitting to my Silver P38 when I install the lift kit. It will be a regime to disconnect the swaybar at the same time I lower my tyre pressures for low range driving. It's like putting underwear on really :-p

Cheers
Keithy

finallyrangie
27th November 2015, 07:57 PM
I am off to the glasshouse mountains tomorrow so I will try to remember my underwear!

I will be giving the disconnecting a go as well, might take a bungee or leave it hanging, so much to decide !

Fluids
28th November 2015, 10:15 AM
On my D2 I just cable tie the disconnect link back up to the sway bar. It disconnects at the bottom. Carry a handful of cable ties and a set of side cutters in the passengers door pocket.

I only have a disconnect on one side. It greatly increases the amount of down travel on the front axle. The D2 lifts a front wheel pretty easily when it's still connected.

Just make sure you reconnect when back on the black top.

finallyrangie
28th November 2015, 05:21 PM
Well I went with just disconnecting one side just to get an idea of the difference it might make, didn't seem to make it a death trap in the 5 minute drive on tarmac back to my mates place after the drive and seemed to help with front end flex, as hopefully the pictures show

Fluids
28th November 2015, 06:29 PM
A 5min drive wont be a problem ... tight windy roads with cambered corners ... and heavy braking ... sharp changes in direction ... upsets the D2 no end to the point where its downright dangerous ... straight roads not an issue, driving normally not an issue.

I found this out by forgeting to reconect the swaybar disconnect and charging off down Bells Line of Road after a days 4wd ... with way too much enthusiasm :)

Love the extra flex though !

finallyrangie
29th November 2015, 09:03 AM
So, would disconnecting both sides make it flex any better than just one, and by enough to be worth it, and what to do with the sway bar once it's disconnected, I've gone full circle with the question now so last one.

Thanks as always for any comments

Fluids
29th November 2015, 09:47 AM
... as far as my D2 goes, I don't think so. I only have 1x disconnect fitted anyway. It just means that that swaybar end that's disconnected moves up and down freely as the opposite end of the axle moves ... there's no torsion being applied to the bar since one end is now floating, so as far as I can figure the flex capability should be the same.

I go offroad, but nothing extreme, and the D2 isn't lifted. Just has bigger than standard tyres. The disconnect definitley makes it more comfortable off road. It doesn't rock side to side over undulating track surfaces like it does when it's connected ... and I find on uphill climbs the tendancy the D2 has to lift a front wheel is greatly reduced.

I haven't looked at the RR system, but I'd guess it's pretty similar to the D2, and using 1x would probably be all you need.

benji
29th November 2015, 06:42 PM
I was thinking about these the other day.
We may need to be careful though, as when moving off from stationary the eas ecu links the front bags together - leaving no front roll stiffness.
I think I'd be turning off the eas with it disconnected.

finallyrangie
30th November 2015, 02:57 PM
I was thinking about these the other day.
We may need to be careful though, as when moving off from stationary the eas ecu links the front bags together - leaving no front roll stiffness.
I think I'd be turning off the eas with it disconnected.



I didn't realise the old p38 had the ability to cross link it's air springs , clever old thing , I only drove on the road for about 5 minuteswith the bar disconnected but to be honest it didn't seem massively different maybe I was being to careful because I knew it was undone

Something else new I have learned about p38s today


Thanks

rover-56
30th November 2015, 03:22 PM
A 5min drive wont be a problem ... tight windy roads with cambered corners ... and heavy braking ... sharp changes in direction ... upsets the D2 no end to the point where its downright dangerous ... straight roads not an issue, driving normally not an issue.

I found this out by forgeting to reconect the swaybar disconnect and charging off down Bells Line of Road after a days 4wd ... with way too much enthusiasm :)

Love the extra flex though !

My D2 (now gone :-( ) with ACE and Graeme's bypass device makes it absolutely brilliant. 1st stage gives less stiffness for normal driving, 2nd stage turns it off altogether. Full articulation, you wouldn't know there were sway bars fitted. They are very stiff on the D2 with ACE.

I generally drove it with the ACE disabled - there is enough fluid friction in the system at road speed to stop it being scarey. Only switched to partial ACE when I had the rooftop tent on.

Don't know anything about the P38, but I think the D2 should have had Graeme's options as standard.

If I buy another D2 It will be fitted if it's got ACE.

Sorry, info is no use to a P38 owner.:)

Terry

benji
4th December 2015, 06:38 AM
The p38 links the front bags for a few seconds after you take the brakes off, and go above 1.5kph to level itself off.

I was thinking of you're stationary on a 35 degree slope, that may not end well. But on the other hand, I've crawled across 35 degree slopes with no body roll.

It's not hard to make aswitch to turn the eas off though.

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MR LR
7th December 2015, 05:10 PM
I have front and rear disconnects on my D2 that I made, I disconnect both sides as with only one side disconnected my car flexes enough to make the swaybar foul and the ball joints bind.

It is stowed by fitting the ends to studs on the chassis specifically made for this, and restrained with lynch pins.