how much to pay for 4x4 perentie at auction versus private sale

[thorsten]

Hi guys,

my name is Thorsten and I just had the pleasure of driving a 90 model perentie 4x4 and needless to say that I now want one:).
How much will I be looking at at auction prices versus private sales. Any other relevant info will be handy to.
Thanks people and keep up the good work.

Thorsten

[Lotz-A-Landies]

When comparing prices at the auctions you need to: add 16% to the final (winning) bid to get the actual cost from the auction.
If you are not close to an auction location, you need to remember that you only have 3 days to collect it, which may cause additional costs.
The vehicles currently coming into the auctions are almost exclusively vehicles returned from units after they were re-equipped with G-Wagens. The result is that they mostly have high kilometres or are in poor condition.
Vehicles at the auctions are not registered.While there may be poor units available on the civilian market, others have low kilometres or have had full or partial re-builds shortly before being auctioned. The first owners after auction, often spend time, money and effort repairing all the little deficiencies that were on the vehicle when they acquired it.

You're welcome to take a look at my 88 FFR http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=2462620#post2462620

The Nov Minto results (third column is the drive out cost)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[rovernutter]

The Nov Minto results (third column is the drive out cost)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Why are so many being auctioned without compliance plates?
This would mean that you would need engineering certification to get it registered. Which is more cost and makes private sales more attractive (if they are registered)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Why are so many being auctioned without compliance plates?
This would mean that you would need engineering certification to get it registered. Which is more cost and makes private sales more attractive (if they are registered)The compliance plates have been lost sometime in the vehicle's Army service life. Upon sale from AFM the purchaser is given a letter issued by Land Rover Australia stating when constructed the vehicle complied with ADR. This is satisfactory document for the registration authorities.

The problem is that it's a one off letter, so the owners over time have to be careful to save the letter and hand it on to subsequent purchasers. If it were one of mine I'd be laminating the document and securing it somewhere with the vehicle.

[thorsten]

Hi guys,

my name is Thorsten and I just had the pleasure of driving a 90 model perentie 4x4 and needless to say that I now want one:).
How much will I be looking at at auction prices versus private sales. Any other relevant info will be handy to.
Thanks people and keep up the good work.

Thorsten
Thanks guys, that is very helpful. The viewing at the auction is this Saturday, I will have a look around.

[wpalmo]

Hi Thorsten,

Buy at the auction but make sure you see the vehicle before you buy it is my advice. There are a lot of profetiers out there hoping to on sell a Perentie. Some of the vehicles being onsold have also been butchered and modified.

I don't think that you would be able to pick a Perentie up any cheaper than the Grays Online auctions and at least you know that it hasn't been mucked around with. What you see is what you get! The last batch of Cargo Perentie's that sold in WA were all around 7-8 grand mark plus buyers premium. Most of the second hand ones that I have seen on Carsales are in the 10-12 grand mark for a Cargo Perentie. RFSV's are up in the 16-18 grand mark on Carsales. Not sure how many more RFSV's are still available through Grays but they sold at auction from between 10-20 grand.

What ever you do though you will end up with an awesome vehicle if you do buy one. I love mine and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Good luck in your quest.

Regards Warrick.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

You need to remember that $7K to $8K at the fall of hammer is easily $9K to $11K with auction fees, GST and registered on the road.

On top of that, it cost me almost $2K to acquire the bits missing at the auction and replace worn out items, like the window felts. Just a replacement interior lamp switch from Land Rover was over $240.

You absolutely need to carefully inspect vehicles going through the Auctions. Remember you are not allowed to start or drive the vehicle at the time of inspection.

There is a Minto auction commencing this afternoon: http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5016919/transport-trucks-and-trailers/roller-tractor-loader-trucks-land-rovers-trailers-parts

[thorsten]

Hi Thorsten,

Buy at the auction but make sure you see the vehicle before you buy it is my advice. There are a lot of profetiers out there hoping to on sell a Perentie. Some of the vehicles being onsold have also been butchered and modified.

I don't think that you would be able to pick a Perentie up any cheaper than the Grays Online auctions and at least you know that it hasn't been mucked around with. What you see is what you get! The last batch of Cargo Perentie's that sold in WA were all around 7-8 grand mark plus buyers premium. Most of the second hand ones that I have seen on Carsales are in the 10-12 grand mark for a Cargo Perentie. RFSV's are up in the 16-18 grand mark on Carsales. Not sure how many more RFSV's are still available through Grays but they sold at auction from between 10-20 grand.

What ever you do though you will end up with an awesome vehicle if you do buy one. I love mine and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Good luck in your quest.

Regards Warrick.


Thanks Warrick,
very helpful information. Will put it to good use.
I have spoken to an ex military civilian employee from Holsworthy Barracks. He told me that the army is selling them for not much more than scrap metal price to Australian Frontline Machinery. Pity we cant buy straight from the army:(.
On the other hand it is still a good price for something which will take you to places you dont even know they exist and back for a very long time:):):):)

Thanks again,
Thorsten

[mudmouse]

Have a look at the KLR Automotive website - they're in Windsor NSW.

Great blokes, heaps of practical experience, and whilst there in business to make a dollar, have always been ready to have a chat.

The biggest single plus of private vs. auction is the ability to drive the thing. This could be worth thousands, but not necessarily so.

Check the log books at Minto too, they give you a hint at the service life.

Good luck. I love mine and drive it to work and back, and anywhere else I can find an excuse to go...

[rovernutter]

He told me that the army is selling them for not much more than scrap metal price to Australian Frontline Machinery.
AFM do not buy the vehicles from the Army. They work on a straight commission percentage of the sale price. It is a high percentage they get though.

[thorsten]

Have a look at the KLR Automotive website - they're in Windsor NSW.

Great blokes, heaps of practical experience, and whilst there in business to make a dollar, have always been ready to have a chat.

The biggest single plus of private vs. auction is the ability to drive the thing. This could be worth thousands, but not necessarily so.

Check the log books at Minto too, they give you a hint at the service life.

Good luck. I love mine and drive it to work and back, and anywhere else I can find an excuse to go...
Hi Mudmouse, just checked them out on the net, lots of handy hints, thanks mate.

[thorsten]

When comparing prices at the auctions you need to:

add 16% to the final (winning) bid to get the actual cost from the auction.
If you are not close to an auction location, you need to remember that you only have 3 days to collect it, which may cause additional costs.
The vehicles currently coming into the auctions are almost exclusively vehicles returned from units after they were re-equipped with G-Wagens. The result is that they mostly have high kilometres or are in poor condition.
Vehicles at the auctions are not registered.

While there may be poor units available on the civilian market, others have low kilometres or have had full or partial re-builds shortly before being auctioned. The first owners after auction, often spend time, money and effort repairing all the little deficiencies that were on the vehicle when they acquired it.

You're welcome to take a look at my 88 FFR http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=2462620#post2462620

The Nov Minto results (third column is the drive out cost)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/general-chat/102091d1447826357-graysonline-east-coast-perentie-results-minto-nov-2015.png
Hi there, how can I get hold of the auction price list you supplied me for further auctions. That list is fantastic:).

Thanks mate
Thorsten

[Lotz-A-Landies]

You have to make it yourself, just like I did.

When the auction is running mark all the vehicles on your watch list. Then create a spreadsheet with the details of the vehicles. (add a formula where you multiply the final bid by 6% for Buyers Premium then that total by 10% for GST to find the final drive out price). When the auction finishes open your MyGrays and check the watching tab, then put the wining bid value in the bid column