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DeanoH
13th December 2015, 11:50 AM
The time has come (again) to consider upgrading our camera(s). Usually when I get to this stage I vacillate between various offerings and either end up doing nothing or updating a lens instead.

The recent purchase of a Nikkor AF-S 200-500mm zoom f5.6E ED VR lens bought this to a head as our existing D70, 80, 90 cameras are not compatible with the electronic shutter in this lens. I ended up buying a second hand D300 to overcome this issue.

Whilst it may seem extravagant to have 4 Nikon SLR's we travel extensively in the outback and these cameras take quite a beating from the elements, dust and vibration mainly. To help avoid dust ingress we very rarely change lenses so basically have one camera per lens.

The D70 was my favourite before buying the D300 and was originally bought second hand as a sacrificial or canoe camera to go with the D80 kit lens for use in hazardous situations. The term canoe camera came after a particularly close shave (camera wise) in Lawn Hill NP. It is now 13 years old and has racked up approx 10K shots.

The D80 was Kayes 2006 Christmas present and has now racked up 60K plus shots and many dusty outback miles. It is an excellent camera and until now lived on the back of our AF Nikkor 80-400 VR (traded on the new 200-500mm).

The D90 replaced the D80 a couple of years ago and coupled with a 18-200 VR is Kayes primary camera with a shutter count of just over 20K.

Fortunately all of these cameras use the same battery.

I propose to replace the D300 and use it as my primary camera in lieu of the D70 which will be retired.

So the big question is what camera to replace it with ? The primary use will be on the back of the 200-500mm zoom.

I'm down to two choices.

A D600 as I've always wanted to go FF or a D7100/7200 ?

On the D600 I can have 24Mp of info at 500mm of zoom and with the D7xxx I can have 24Mp of info at 750mm (effective) zoom to play with and I'm using the centre of the lens only so should be a better result ?

It seems to me that the DX format will give me better effective zoom and pixel density so that in a high cropping situation such as bird photography I'd be better off though the FF format should give me a better 'quality' picture but I find this hard to put a measure on. I'm also thinking that the D600 with a 50mm F1.4 would be great for general purpose photography especially indoors and would make a good portrait lens for the D300.

As usual, all advice gratefully received.


Deano :)

Bytemrk
13th December 2015, 08:03 PM
I think it really depends most on what you are going to photograph most.

As you pointed out the crop factor of DX gives you great extra reach.

About a year ago I went FX (D750).. I love the images it produces and low light is amazing. But I do miss the longer reach with things like birds.

I kept my D7000 so that's my back up and go to for the longer stuff now. One day I'll probably replace it with a D7200 or it's successor, but I'm not in a great rush as the 7000 still takes images I am still very happy with. and the body lay out of the two cameras is close enough that switching is easy.

If you yearn for FX and don't do most of your photography at the long end, why not pair your FX choice with the D300 for long stuff?

dullbird
15th December 2015, 12:31 PM
Deano i dont know if ths is of any interest but there is a guy on the Nikon gear for sale page selling a D610 for 1,200 in melbourne

He could be open to offers i dont know

incisor
29th December 2015, 05:54 PM
i wish you people would give it a rest!




you just cost me $300!

i just bought a d7000 with less than 500 actuations on it so i could give my daughter my d90 as her d90 is on the way out...

should get here in a couple of days i hope

mother is not happy....

:wasntme:

Bytemrk
29th December 2015, 06:11 PM
Nice purchase Inc!

ozscott
29th December 2015, 06:44 PM
Love my 7100. Seriously good camera.

Cheers

DeanoH
30th December 2015, 06:15 PM
Well, took the plunge today and bought a new (second hand) D7100 from a bloke just around the corner from you Mark, but still seriously looking at an additional D7000 as well.

Still reading the book to work out its quirks. What's with the cropped, cropped sensor mode ? I guess it can give 2X as opposed to 1.5X at 16Mp which is fine but with a smaller effective sensor will I get improved depth of field for macro ?

You reckon you've got explaining to do Inc ..................... Ha. I couldn't resist the AF-S Nikkor 12-24mm f4 G ED, a beautiful landscape lens and very good value at less than half new price with Nikkor 55-200 VR, 18-55 VR and a Nikon 50mm f1.8 E series lens thrown in :o:D.

We've decided that this year will be update year so we will be moving on our older camera bodies and some lenses, so this is just the start. Bread and dripping for the next 12 months hopefully some good gear by next Christmas :D.

Deano.

incisor
30th December 2015, 06:38 PM
well done!

dullbird
30th December 2015, 06:58 PM
Inc you will be pretty bloody happy with the D7000 assuming the D7100 is only slightly more refined.
I have been pretty happy with my D7100 other than its low light performance and it will be a big step up from the D90...

Make sure you get snapping and post your photos.

lebanon
31st December 2015, 05:32 AM
Where do you get second hand cameras? any address that you recommend?

dullbird
31st December 2015, 06:13 AM
Most people buy them from buy and sell sites locally like on facebook etc
there was an american site a few years back that held a huge stock of second hand cameras and lenses as well as sold new i will see if i can find it for you.

Bytemrk
31st December 2015, 07:20 PM
Lou you might be thinking of KEH https://www.keh.com/

I haven"t used them, but they do have a good reputation.

I have bought a fair bit from B&H Photo and they have a used department (Used and refurbished I think.)

Used | B&H Photo (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Used-Equipment/ci/2870/N/4294247188)

dullbird
31st December 2015, 08:15 PM
Yes Mark it is KEH again i haven't used them but i had seen many people that had and seemed pretty happy