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ProjectDirector
18th December 2015, 08:59 AM
Hi Everyone,


I would like to have your opinions from some experts on this forum as I cant get resolution of this issue.


I get this annoying clutch pedal squeak every time I depress the clutch and for the fourth time the dealer has lubricated the clutch box as recent as 4 weeks ago. it now appears when the weather is hot (Melbourne) and not in cool conditions.


I don't think that their solution is working, it must me something more than lubricating the box.
My suspicion is that it could be the seals are gone.
Any opinions will be appreciated.


PS the car is still under warranty.

harro
18th December 2015, 09:32 AM
The double acting torsion spring that returns the pedal has a couple of plastic bushes where it goes through the holes in the pedal, try some oil or grease (WD40 or CRC wont do) on them.
The only other place is the main pivot point bushes below the master cylinder.
You need to take the inspection plate off the clutch pedal assembly (6 screws) under the bonnet but it sounds like they may have already tried that.
Careful if you go in there, you don't want any lubricants contaminating the M/C or the push rod.

Even those bushes really need oil or grease as the good old squirt of wd40 will only last a short time.

Highly unlikely that the seals are gone, you would have a puddle on the floor and no or little clutch pedal

Cheers,
Paul.

Chops
18th December 2015, 09:39 AM
I've discovered after three+ years of this, lubricating the top pivot point inside the top of the box, that is, where the clutch pin pushes/rotates, fixes the problem.
I used WD40 on mine, but if and when I have to do it again, I will use Lanotec or something similar.

I don't think the larger pedal pivot is actually the issue, well at least it wasn't on mine anyway. Although, having said that, I'm sure if done at the same time would make it better anyway.

Phil B
18th December 2015, 09:56 AM
Hi Everyone,


I would like to have your opinions from some experts on this forum as I cant get resolution of this issue.


I get this annoying clutch pedal squeak every time I depress the clutch and for the fourth time the dealer has lubricated the clutch box as recent as 4 weeks ago. it now appears when the weather is hot (Melbourne) and not in cool conditions.


I don't think that their solution is working, it must me something more than lubricating the box.
My suspicion is that it could be the seals are gone.
Any opinions will be appreciated.


PS the car is still under warranty.


Liberal spray of WD40 from the top and bottom onto the pivot sorted out mine
I believe there was a modification on here somewhere involving insertion of a grease nipple. I cant remember the details but WD 40 worked for me.


Regards,

ProjectDirector
18th December 2015, 10:03 AM
The double acting torsion spring that returns the pedal has a couple of plastic bushes where it goes through the holes in the pedal, try some oil or grease (WD40 or CRC wont do) on them.
The only other place is the main pivot point bushes below the master cylinder.
You need to take the inspection plate off the clutch pedal assembly (6 screws) under the bonnet but it sounds like they may have already tried that.
Careful if you go in there, you don't want any lubricants contaminating the M/C or the push rod.

Even those bushed really need oil or grease as the good old squirt of wd40 will only last a short time.

Highly unlikely that the seals are gone, you would have a puddle on the floor and no or little clutch pedal

Cheers,
Paul.


I might suggest some of your diagnosis to the dealer in January and hopefully will get it fixed. Thanks for your advice.

digger
18th December 2015, 10:18 AM
I had this feature on Bear...

Someone at the dealer called it the "clutch alarm" after I'd pointed it out....

They fixed it and (looks for real wood to touch) 2 years and I havent heard it again (on mine :) )


there is a lot of mentions across the forum but in 2007 there was this one
(with advice from JustinC amongst others) it mirrors advice already given.... (except the cooking bit)

a decent search should help..

ProjectDirector
18th December 2015, 01:30 PM
I've discovered after three+ years of this, lubricating the top pivot point inside the top of the box, that is, where the clutch pin pushes/rotates, fixes the problem.
I used WD40 on mine, but if and when I have to do it again, I will use Lanotec or something similar.

I don't think the larger pedal pivot is actually the issue, well at least it wasn't on mine anyway. Although, having said that, I'm sure if done at the same time would make it better anyway.
I will need to have a look as I don't have an appreciation how easy it is to get access. Is it accessible from engine bay or from under the car?

harro
18th December 2015, 02:31 PM
I will need to have a look as I don't have an appreciation how easy it is to get access. Is it accessible from engine bay or from under the car?

Engine bay, beside the brake booster you will see the clutch M/C fluid reservoir. In front of that is a steel plate fixed with 6 screws.
Remove the plate and you with will see the trunnion which is the pivot point for the push rod that goes into the M/C.
A couple of nuts on the M/C side of the rod and a nylock on the other side.
Give it a lube and see what happens, maybe even get someone to pump the clutch pedal while you lube it.

Good Luck, hope it shuts the squeak up:D

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ProjectDirector
18th December 2015, 03:51 PM
Engine bay, beside the brake booster you will see the clutch M/C fluid reservoir. In front of that is a steel plate fixed with 6 screws.
Remove the plate and you with will see the trunnion which is the pivot point for the push rod that goes into the M/C.
A couple of nuts on the M/C side of the rod and a nylock on the other side.
Give it a lube and see what happens, maybe even get someone to pump the clutch pedal while you lube it.

Good Luck, hope it shuts the squeak up:D

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Thank you

Samblers
19th December 2015, 09:47 AM
Mine was in and out of LR (within warranty) for clutch pedal noises. None of the above lube points worked for me.

Here's the cause/remedy:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/185749-tdci-clutch-pedal-squeak-6.html#post2313715

Hope this helps

Sam

ProjectDirector
19th December 2015, 01:49 PM
Mine was in and out of LR (within warranty) for clutch pedal noises. None of the above lube points worked for me.



Here's the cause/remedy:



http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/185749-tdci-clutch-pedal-squeak-6.html#post2313715



Hope this helps



Sam


Wow now that's a well documented fix
Very much appreciated.
Well it is still under warranty so let's see what they propose to do for the 5th time[emoji16]
If they can't fix it I now have some comprehensive solutions thanks to you and other members[emoji2]

digger
19th December 2015, 02:27 PM
That is the thread I couldnt find - a comprehensive assessment of
how to deal with the problem.

Its been a while, how is it going Samblers?

Samblers
22nd December 2015, 12:43 AM
One year on and smooth/ squeak free : )

FV1601
27th December 2015, 08:07 PM
Great and timely read. My thanks to all contributors. My noise not as bad as some by the sound of it, but amazingly intermittent. Fitted grease nipple and greased a week ago, slowly improved since, but does sound like the spring to me, which has obviously been oiled in the past (Dealer or Previous Owner??) so gave it a good dose of Coppercoat at the same time. Either way, quick and simple for some improvement.
Rich.

DazzaTD5
29th December 2015, 03:27 PM
Over the years, every time one method works I think great, will use that next time..... a few jobs later and that next one it doesnt work.

I fit to new Defender when they come in a grease nipple on the end of that shaft and give the whole lot a lube, it generally saves them.

Once the pedal has started the old Defender squeak, its pot luck if any method works.

You then need to go down the path Samblers has done, good write up too by the way.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/185749-tdci-clutch-pedal-squeak-6.html#post2313715

and image paying your Land Rover specialist to do the above job?

Most Defender owners say "what squeak????"

Regards
Daz

ProjectDirector
6th December 2016, 11:31 AM
Today I managed to go and by some grease nipples and some grease to install on the side of the clutch pedal box.
Type of grease I bought is general purpose as per attachment.
Would this be ok for this purpose and also can I use this anywhere else on the vehicle.
thanks