Christmas disappointment :(

[Chris078]

Just went to change a headlight bulb. Mistake. Discovered that both sides have rusted to the point that the bowls disintegrated. The wiring harnesses for the bulbs are completely melted. One has actually been on fire, but remarkably enough, that lightbulb was the one that still worked. The reflectors in the light housing are also rusted, which explains why a glow worm would have laughed at my lights.


So now I need new headlights, and my planned trip over Christmas is cancelled :(

As far as I can tell for the full kit [bowl, light unit, gasket etc) the part numbers are BAU2144 RHS and AEU1742 LHS.

can anyone verify this at all before I order them?

[Homestar]

Can't you still go on your trip and travel during the day? A bit of a bodge on the wiring should be enough to make a globe light up to keep it technically roadworthy?

[BadCo.]

I swapped my Lucas bowls for Wipac Crystal halogens, re-did the wiring with a traxide kit and put 100w lamps in.

That might not help you though, as shipping from the UK may take some time.

[Mick_Marsh]

pop down to Autobarn or similar and pick up a couple of H4 headlights.
Hella-Hella 5 3/4 in. H4 Vision Plus Conversion Headlamp 12V - 002850001-002850001 (http://www.partdeal.com/hella-5-3-4-in-h4-vision-plus-conversion-headlamp-12v-002850001.html?zmam=74973193&zmas=1&zmac=4&zmap=77190509&gclid=CPOx8qOc7MkCFZcRvQodl5EM3A)
Grab some new plugs while you're at it, some joiners and some wire.
That'll get you by.

[Chris078]

Can't you still go on your trip and travel during the day? A bit of a bodge on the wiring should be enough to make a globe light up to keep it technically roadworthy?


The whole bowl literally disintegrated on one side (i think a combination of rust and mud was holding it together) and split in two on the other.
Nothing left to hold a bulb in or focus it :(.

All is well. Borrowed another car from my folks for a week. Just really wanted to take the Perentie.
A couple of emails have confirmed that those numbers are correct, so I've ordered a set from LRDirect and will pick up some +130 bulbs sometime as well.

I guess the upshot is that I'll be able to see where I'm going at night ;)

[p38arover]

The bowl is probably a bog standard Lucas item. Go to any wrecker with old British cars.

I got some (free) off an old Hillman when I changed my '86 Rangie's aluminium grille to a later plastic grille. See Range Rover Grille Conversion (http://p38arover.com/rover/grille.html)

[Aussie Jeepster]

The whole bowl literally disintegrated on one side (i think a combination of rust and mud was holding it together) and split in two on the other.
Nothing left to hold a bulb in or focus it :(.

All is well. Borrowed another car from my folks for a week. Just really wanted to take the Perentie.
A couple of emails have confirmed that those numbers are correct, so I've ordered a set from LRDirect and will pick up some +130 bulbs sometime as well.

I guess the upshot is that I'll be able to see where I'm going at night ;)

Make sure if you put in the 130 globes that you use relays and replace ALL the wiring to the new globes. You can use the old wiring for the switch side of the relay, but don't even think about using anything but relays and good wiring with the new globes.

[rick130]

They are just a standard 7" round headlight, do what Mick suggested or if you want to be really cheap, just buy some 7" 60/55W sealed beams, they are dirt cheap.

[rar110]

The whole light is a Narva or Hella part. Call SCA, Repco etc. You should be able to buy bulb, curved mounting plate & H4 socket/bulbs. You could also consider fitting relays to take load off the switch.

[BadCo.]

Wiring kit

http://www.traxide.com.au/headlight-wiring-kits/def-hwuk-headlight-wiring.html

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[MR LR]

Stuffed head lights shouldn't keep you held up for more than 5 mins...

As Mick said, go to an auto parts store and grab a set of H4 7" inserts (Hella is much better than original) and throw them in... literally a 5 minute job.

[dingsy]

I replaced mine with the narva closed back (not sealed) units - seems to be working well. I also did the traxide kit which I recommend but you could leave this for later.

[Mac_and_Cheese]

If you've got to replace them anyway (and if youve got the spare cash lying around) why not bite the bullet and get something like the trucklites. I have them on my Perentie and can highly recommend them. I believe British Off Road currently have them for $465 each, Still might be worth shopping around though.

[Chris078]

If you've got to replace them anyway (and if youve got the spare cash lying around) why not bite the bullet and get something like the trucklites. I have them on my Perentie and can highly recommend them. I believe British Off Road currently have them for $465 each, Still might be worth shopping around though.


ouch! sadly I don't have a spare grand. New ones from the UK cost less than $200 delivered for the pair. I'll pick up a set of +130% globes and hopefully that will do the trick.


Mr LR. The mounting cones literally split/disintegrated from the rust so there is nothing to mount the globes in.

Dingsy. That Traxride kit is on the wishlist (along with the temp monitor they do). Just have to save up the cash! :eek:

[MR LR]

You are missing the point, they are complete replacement headlights, all the old light goes.

[rar110]

ouch! sadly I don't have a spare grand. New ones from the UK cost less than $200 delivered for the pair.

Call a local supplier such as Maxi Parts. I'm sure they will be cheaper.

[rick130]

Call a local supplier such as Maxi Parts. I'm sure they will be cheaper.

Yep, a pair of Hella or Cibi? 7" headlights would be better and less $, and if you want to be rally cheap, standard 7" sealed beams are only around $20-30 each.

[LandyAndy]

ouch! sadly I don't have a spare grand. New ones from the UK cost less than $200 delivered for the pair. I'll pick up a set of +130% globes and hopefully that will do the trick.


Mr LR. The mounting cones literally split/disintegrated from the rust so there is nothing to mount the globes in.

Dingsy. That Traxride kit is on the wishlist (along with the temp monitor they do). Just have to save up the cash! :eek:

Dont put those 130% globes in without the Traxide wiring kit.
WHY???? The factory wiring puts the full voltage thru the switching,you will end up melting the switches.
The Traxide kit uses the original wiring only as a trigger for the relays which draw your power direct from the alternator to the globes.Your lights will be much brighter and you wont destroy the rest of the factory wiring.
Andrew

[rathgar]

.... re-did the wiring with a traxide kit ....

Surprised you went with this kit. Thought you were a sparky?

[DiscoMick]

Be very surprised if any decent sparky couldn't source off the shelf replacements and fit them in a couple of hours, probably with upgraded wiring.

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[BadCo.]

Surprised you went with this kit. Thought you were a sparky?

Ha, that is a good point. I didn't want to faff around sourcing all the little bits so just got the kit. You can be damned sure it looks **** hot how I have installed it though haha.


Dont put those 130% globes in without the Traxide wiring kit.
WHY???? The factory wiring puts the full voltage thru the switching,you will end up melting the switches.
The Traxide kit uses the original wiring only as a trigger for the relays which draw your power direct from the alternator to the globes.Your lights will be much brighter and you wont destroy the rest of the factory wiring.
Andrew

Those globes are still on 60/55w (well the plus 120 are), so no difference in load from factory globes.

[Chris078]

Merry Christmas all!! :D

It's not the globe inserts/reflector whatever you want to call it, it's the bowl behind that, and the chrome rim that holds the whole lot together that have rusted out.

The +130 bulbs are the standard 60/55w. no increased voltage.
I'll be getting a traxride kit eventually to bypass the voltage all going through the switch.

[BadCo.]

Merry Christmas all!! :D

It's not the globe inserts/reflector whatever you want to call it, it's the bowl behind that, and the chrome rim that holds the whole lot together that have rusted out.

The +130 bulbs are the standard 60/55w. no increased voltage.
I'll be getting a traxride kit eventually to bypass the voltage all going through the switch.

Get rid of the bowls and just use plastic rings

EDIT: I think I used these

https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=wipac+S6004

[clubagreenie]

You can get plastic bowls. Can't remember what they are from.

IPF make great inserts, metal, not glass or plastic refleftors. And will take 130/100w globes.

[Bush Animal]

Just finished reading all the posts on replacing the headlights,it seams nobody reads all the posts and takes any notice of what the guru,s say Mick said the best way to fix it how come no one listens to the best advice Cheers all and hope you all had a great Xmas

[clubagreenie]

Just went to change a headlight bulb. Mistake. Discovered that both sides have rusted to the point that the bowls disintegrated.

This indicates that the Bowls (recepticles for teh lights)have failed.

The wiring harnesses for the bulbs are completely melted. One has actually been on fire, but remarkably enough, that lightbulb was the one that still worked.


The reflectors in the light housing are also rusted, which explains why a glow worm would have laughed at my lights.

Indicating a seperate issue to the BOWLS

[Chris078]

damnit!
got all the new stuff in and I think I have screwed up somewhere and cannot work it out.

could someone tell me the wiring colours are for the high and low beam please?

[Chris078]

damnit!
got all the new stuff in and I think I have screwed up somewhere and cannot work it out.

could someone tell me the wiring colours are for the high and low beam please?


all good. I'm an idiot, got wires crossed.

[Chris078]

ergh. Now it looks like the wiper switch has died. everything works except the water pump (checked that by running cables directly to it and it works)

anything to check before I order a new one?
Also, I get part # PRC 3900 for the combination switch, anyone know if that is correct?

Thanks

Chris

[Chris078]

Just noticed something odd. Or maybe it's always been that way and I never noticed.
When I put the HIGH beams on, the main (dipped, whatever the hell you call it) turns off.
When you pull the lever to flash the high beams, the main beams stay on.

Is this normal, or is my combination switch doing strange things?


<Edit> For anyone thinking about doing the wiring upgrade, unless you have the power cables, crimps etc already, buy the Traxide kit.
It will work out much cheaper, and as it's a plug and play kit, it will be much quicker to install as well.

[Mick_Marsh]

Yep. Normal on the cars I have.