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bk
16th August 2005, 06:30 PM
Hi Just wondering if people know of ready made water tanks for the defender 110 or anybody made a steel tank? Any other solutions or recomendations for storing water for 2 to 6 week long trips. Anyone tried those plastic bags that hold about 40 - 60 L that sit in the footwell in the back seat?

weeds
16th August 2005, 06:53 PM
Hey bk

I have just manufactured and installed a water tank for the rear footwell in my defender. I looked at the water bladder and decided to make my own out of ally. Mine worls out to be 72 litres, i was greedy and made max use of the space and when i went to fit i discovered the bolts going throught the floor, I'm yet to remove the tank to fit some rubber so the bolt heads do not rub through.

Click on the link below for my post.

http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Foru...6175&highlight= (http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6175&highlight=)

The owner of a bike shop in sandgate has a water bladder with a piece of ply on top, works well but he loses 5-10 litres capacity.

bk
16th August 2005, 07:24 PM
it looks great what you did, better than anything you can buy.

one_iota
16th August 2005, 07:32 PM
Noddy fitted a 60 litre tank to his 110:

and courtesy of the search engine:

http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Foru...ight=water+tank (http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3575&highlight=water+tank)

Opposite Lock sell some units as well:

http://www.oppositelock.com.au/product.asp...id=6&cxcatid=49 (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/product.asp'dxdeptid=6&cxcatid=49)

I have read about some issues with the taste of water out of the bladder variety particularly when they have been sitting idle and empty for some time between trips.

Greylandy
17th August 2005, 07:26 AM
Graeme Cooper in Sydney has a 70L water tank that stands upright to the side of the load bay or in the footwell behind the front seats. They come standard with a hand pump but I've seen them fitted with an electric pump. They sell for $180

http://www.lrexpert.com.au/parts_gif/large/65.jpg

I've had mine for 2 years now .. works a treat.

bk
17th August 2005, 07:21 PM
thaks greylandy that one from Graeme Cooper looks just like what I need. Thanks everybody for the suggestions style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

JDNSW
17th August 2005, 07:37 PM
My 110 had (still has) a water tank fitted when I bought it S/H in 93. Made in Alice Springs, had a name on it when I got it, but long since painted over. Runs under the driver outside the chassis from the back of the front radius rod to the outrigger in front of the fuel sedimenter. Roughly triangular in shape with a tap at the back, holds about 50l. Should have been alloy or stainless, though, fills from under the bonnet.

weeds
18th August 2005, 07:05 AM
Thats a great price from Graeme Cooper, my research was not to good, although one of my main objectives was not to take up room in the cargo area.

Greylandy
18th August 2005, 08:09 AM
I also had a concern taking up space in the cargo area but it stands right up against the window and you can still get stuff behind or on top of it .. especially if you have a cargo barrier. The other option is behind the front seats where it fits nicely.

http://www.greylandy.com/Temp/wt1.jpg

http://www.greylandy.com/Temp/wt2.jpg

p38arover
18th August 2005, 09:14 AM
The tank from Graeme Cooper looks like the one that Rangie Spares in Melbourne has been selling for years. Is that now Les Richmond Automotove?

Have a chat with them.

Ron

Greylandy
18th August 2005, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by p38arover
The tank from Graeme Copper looks like the one that Rangie Spares in Melbourne has been selling for years. Is that now Les Richmond Automotove?

Have a chat with them.

Ron

I think you right Ron ... the tanks are actually made to fit a Range Rover.

Tusker
18th August 2005, 09:32 AM
Watch the length of the bladder types

Theres one member of LROC who went from disco to defender, and the bladder is too long now for the defender. Used to work a treat in the disco apparently, his kids used it as a foot rest.

Another idea I've seen is to stick the bladder between the back seat & the cargo barrier, if theres a sizable gap.

Regards
Max P

p38arover
18th August 2005, 01:15 PM
I wouldn't use a bladder unless it could be restrained. 60 litres of water is 60 kg and you don't want that flying about in roll-over.

Ron

weeds
18th August 2005, 01:28 PM
From memory when I looked at the bladders they had four tie down points which would have to be tighten as ones uses water, I'm guessing they don't have baffles so it would swish from side to side a bit in rough country.

CraigE
20th August 2005, 09:30 AM
Outback roller drawers also sell a similar unit through opposite lock.
I am toying with the idea of making a rear step for the back of the fender with 15-20 litre water tanks on either side in a wing shape. Also having the HF aerial mount and ladder to one side. Just toying at the momment. Have to weigh up the costs of getting it fabricated as I want it in aluminium maybe.

DEFENDERZOOK
20th August 2005, 10:12 AM
<span style="color:blue">if all you need is 15 to 20 litres...you can use some pvc pipe and fix it to the chassis rails......or two bits...one on each side.....keeps all the weight down low...much better than the setups i have seen running around the roof racks on lots of cars.....


if you use the high pressure stuff with the correct high pressure glue(green) to fix the end caps......you can even fit a schrader valve and pump 10psi or so from your compressor to have a bit of pressure....
hook up an air duster to a length of hose and you will have enough pressure to wash things down in the middle of nowhere.....</span>

CraigE
20th August 2005, 05:55 PM
Tony,
I am hoping to get 15-20 litres per side and the fender really needs a rear step and mounting point for my HF radio anyway. This water will be generally for day trips etc and will carry much more in the camper trailer for long trips. I was thinking of having a ladder mounted as well to make roof access easy. Another option I am considering is getting one made for the rear wheel arch, could get at least 60 litres on one side. Just got to find someone with the welding skills and gear. One of the things I will miss when the RR goes is the rear step.

DEFENDERZOOK
20th August 2005, 06:10 PM
<span style="color:blue">one thing i havent measured yet is whether a 20litre plastic drum( the square heavy duty ones) will fit in
the wheel arch...there appears to be enough space there for one....


i used to use these as jerry cans...just fit a hose from the tap to the fuel filler on the car and sit the drum gently on the roof and turn on the tap and sit back....

i know they will handle a fair bit of pressure as i never had any problems
with the fuel in them.....even sitting in the sun with only a bit of fuel in the bottom.....</span>

p38arover
20th August 2005, 06:29 PM
I recently bought a jerry can holder from The Great Outdoors (about $35 - I couldn't be bothered trying to make one).

I fitted it onto the County's wheel carrier frame yesterday (beside the wheel as my swingaway wheel carrier is wide enough for both.

But I am interested in Zook's idea of fitting a square plastic drum underneath.

A friend from the LROC used the stainless steel sheet metal from an old urinal and brazed that up into a water tank.

Ron

DEFENDERZOOK
21st August 2005, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by p38arover
I recently bought a jerry can holder from The Great Outdoors (about $35 - I couldn't be bothered trying to make one).

I fitted it onto the County's wheel carrier frame yesterday (beside the wheel as my swingaway wheel carrier is wide enough for both.

But I am interested in Zook's idea of fitting a square plastic drum underneath.

A friend from the LROC used the stainless steel sheet metal from an old urinal and brazed that up into a water tank.

Ron



<span style="color:blue">i would drink from a urinal......wouldnt you?

you have less space in the county cos you got tool boxes in the rear wheel arches......unlike the fender.....</span>

camel_landy
29th August 2005, 10:49 PM
I've got a 40L poly tank in the rear footwell of my 110 & it's been fine. I've got a pump under the rear seats and a filtration thingy in the rear by the door. Not had any problems so far & it keeps the weight low and central.

HTH

Mark.

Bushie
30th August 2005, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Greylandy
I also had a concern taking up space in the cargo area but it stands right up against the window and you can still get stuff behind or on top of it .. especially if you have a cargo barrier. The other option is behind the front seats where it fits nicely.

http://www.greylandy.com/Temp/wt1.jpg

http://www.greylandy.com/Temp/wt2.jpg

What is the overall length and height of these tanks?? Width is OK for where I would put it.


Bushie

DEFENDERZOOK
31st August 2005, 04:53 AM
<span style="color:blue">Water tank



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Water tank - (WTK)
View Part Water tank 70ltr can be fitted in side any classic range rover, left or right hand side.
Fits well inside defender as well. Hand pump on top for eazy access.
75cm long, 21cm wide, 48cm high. Made from a tough pvc plastic.
$185.00


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<span style="color:green">look at the last item on the link below......</span>






http://www.lrexpert.com.au/custom.php?page=rover

Bushie
31st August 2005, 07:45 PM
Thanks Tony


Bushie

PCH
1st September 2005, 11:08 AM
Opposite Lock are advertising a range of plastic tanks around 50lt in Overlander this month.

Chris

tdi130dualcab
1st September 2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Greylandy
Graeme Cooper in Sydney has a 70L water tank that stands upright to the side of the load bay or in the footwell behind the front seats. They come standard with a hand pump but I've seen them fitted with an electric pump. They sell for $180

http://www.lrexpert.com.au/parts_gif/large/65.jpg

I've had mine for 2 years now .. works a treat.

I've had one of these tanks for approx 8+ years now, they are great. I brought it for my old rangie, now it is permenantly mounted in the tray of the 130. Very tough and very forgiving, no need to be "gentle" with it.

Cheers