Series II in for a service

[DazzaTD5]

Hi all,
Thought some of you might get a kick out of this. Had a customer book a Land Rover Series II 1963 109 in for a service and a bit of a tidy up.

Work done:
*Engine oil, diffs, transfer case, gearbox fluids change.
*Do the front brakes, wheel cylinders, brake lines.
*Paint the wheels, clean the gal capping, tidy up some surface rust on the exterior of firewall, clean engine bay.

Not really much needed for a 52 year old vehicle with 74,000 miles on the clock.

No water temp gauge, that concerns me a bit, anyone fitted a water temp gauge that suits the vintage?

Regards
Daz

[SG1 Bones]

52 years young. That's a great looking SII, thanks for sharing.
Nathan.

[67hardtop]

X2. Very neat.

Cheers Rod

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[schuy1]

Thats a very nicely kept 2a :) Its in better nick panel wise than my 300TDi. Only driven to church on Sundays it looks like :D Regarding a temp gauge, Smiths used to make a dual oil/temp gauge that Landrover offered as an accessory. They suit the period gauges, not sure if they are still made by smiths. But any black with white gauge should look oki.
Cheers Scott

[DazzaTD5]

Yes panel wise it's in better nic than most old Defender models I see.
Its only onto its second owner, I had to clean off a bit of cement splash at the back, so its done a bit of work in its time, but the inside of the ute body is flat and not beaten.

The lack of water temp gauge just rings alarm bells for me, its got an amp gauge that I think big deal but I spose at that age the big issue was poor Lucas electrics so an amp gauge was prolly a must!! :p

I'd normally fit a watchdog guard but the digital readout would somehow be just wrong!

Regards
Daz

[JDNSW]

Looks very nice. I would be having a good look at the air cleaner to carbie hose, to make sure it is not about to leak.

Suitable gauges (dierect operating) should be readily available, although you would probably have to settle for VDO or similar not Smiths. As mentioned, the optional gauge on this model was a Smiths dual temp and oil pressure mounted on a panel to the right of the speedo (probably get a second hand panel (and possibly even a gauge - they can last forever) from Ho Hars or similar) - the matching panel is probably a good idea.

John

[debruiser]

Thats a very nicely kept 2a :) Its in better nick panel wise than my 300TDi. Only driven to church on Sundays it looks like :D Regarding a temp gauge, Smiths used to make a dual oil/temp gauge that Landrover offered as an accessory. They suit the period gauges, not sure if they are still made by smiths. But any black with white gauge should look oki.
Cheers Scott

These are still available.... from.... Oil Pressure & Water Temperature - Mechanical (http://www.gauge-shop.com.au/catalogue/14-products-by-brand/105-smiths/774-oil-pressure-a-water-temperature-mechanical)

well that's the guy I know of anyway, I'd assume u can get them wherever.

[JDNSW]

Yes, as I thought - still available, with invisible gold plating!

John

[debruiser]

Yes, as I thought - still available, with invisible gold plating!

John

I said they were available. Not that they were cheap! :p

[vnx205]

How important is a temperature gauge in a Series LR?

I thought that the way things worked with those motors was that if you can hear a bubbling noise, it is boiling. In which case you just wait for it to cool down a bit, maybe add some coolant and drive off.

Contrast that with what happens with modern engines with alloy heads. In that case if you hear a bubbling sound, you know that you have just destroyed the head. So you sell one of your kidneys or sell your first born child into slavery to pay for a replacement head. :)

I was under the impression that overheating wasn't an issue with a Series LR.

[mick88]

Very nice example of a Series Landy!
It has no doubt been some ones pride and joy to be kept in such good order.


The earth strap on the engine amuses me!


Cheers, Mick.

[JDNSW]

How important is a temperature gauge in a Series LR?

I thought that the way things worked with those motors was that if you can hear a bubbling noise, it is boiling. In which case you just wait for it to cool down a bit, maybe add some coolant and drive off.

Contrast that with what happens with modern engines with alloy heads. In that case if you hear a bubbling sound, you know that you have just destroyed the head. So you sell one of your kidneys or sell your first born child into slavery to pay for a replacement head. :)

I was under the impression that overheating wasn't an issue with a Series LR.

To some extent this is true, but despite this I have always fitted a temperature gauge to my Landrovers since the early 1960s where they were not fitted. While as a general rule they will not overheat without a fault, it can happen in prolonged stationary use in hot conditions, and the gauge is also useful to detect thermostat failure and overcooling.

John

[harry]

Very nice example of a Series Landy!
It has no doubt been some ones pride and joy to be kept in such good order.


The earth strap on the engine amuses me!


Cheers, Mick.


Thanks for pointing that out, I noticed the heat shield below the carby, something else I need for my s2a

[DazzaTD5]

Very nice example of a Series Landy!
It has no doubt been some ones pride and joy to be kept in such good order.


The earth strap on the engine amuses me!


Cheers, Mick.

I know what you are thinking as I was thinking the same thing when I saw it...

Its got a rubber insulator under it, there is a cork gasket under the rocker cover .... how can it possibly be making a good earth.... (its not, there is one on the battery box).

other stuff...
Geez them gauges are expensive, will look for an old school looking alternative and make a bracket to suit.

The owner already has the bug, wants me to see if I can get the seats recovered while its here (mmm that nice grey blochy vinyl) and I'm going to see if I can get some extra matching vinyl and redo the two door trim panels.

I often get what I call "Defender disease" where I start to think "mm yeah should get another Defender!" but I take medication for it...

Good grief this is something completely different (but similar somehow)....
I would like to buy back my old Series III 88" hardtop though (it was my first vehicle when I was 17) sold it a few years later to some guy down in Safety Bay area (Western Australia) I had painted it yellow by then.

here is the pic, rego was 6MO - 569
https://www.facebook.com/aztech4x4/photos/pb.378441402228681.-2207520000.1451578125./448489301890557/'type=3&theater

Regards
Daz

[SG1 Bones]

Nice SIII shame you sold it. Have you tried the ho har's for a gauge. I know there in Brisbane but I think postage shouldn't cost an arm and a leg.

Nathan.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I'm sure he has the disease,,
check the number plate:cool:

[DazzaTD5]

I'm sure he has the disease,,
check the number plate:cool:

Yep good pick up, when he told me he had private plates for it, I thought oh no... when he dropped them round, the said he checked to make sure they were the correct colour for that age!!

They look great

Regards
Daz

[schuy1]

EEK! Did not know they cost that !! I think I paid something like $45 for the 1 I have ! thats only 30 yrs ago of course, Inflation :D And mine has the LR dial!
Cheers Scott

[paulthepilot_5]

That's one tidy series 2!

[JDNSW]

......... I'm going to see if I can get some extra matching vinyl and redo the two door trim panels.
....
Daz


If I remember rightly, it is called "elephant hide" and has long been unavailable. There are close replicas available, for example from Exmoor Trim, but make sure you are sitting down when you are told the price.

John

[SG1 Bones]

Someone on here was getting the material I think from Exmoor and making the coverings himself to save cost. I'll have a look tonight and see if I can find the post.
Nathan.

[stevep]

I bought one of these a couple of years ago for my series 2. works well & looks the part.


Smiths Classic CAR Water Temperature Gauge With Chrome Bezel Black Face | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Smiths-Classic-Car-Water-Temperature-Gauge-Chrome-Bezel-Black-Face-/221927278715?hash=item33abe5887b)


Steve

[D2lee]

Hi all,
Thought some of you might get a kick out of this. Had a customer book a Land Rover Series II 1963 109 in for a service and a bit of a tidy up.

Work done:
*Engine oil, diffs, transfer case, gearbox fluids change.
*Do the front brakes, wheel cylinders, brake lines.
*Paint the wheels, clean the gal capping, tidy up some surface rust on the exterior of firewall, clean engine bay.

Not really much needed for a 52 year old vehicle with 74,000 miles on the clock.

No water temp gauge, that concerns me a bit, anyone fitted a water temp gauge that suits the vintage?

Regards
Daz



things were simple back then! Lovely example

[DazzaTD5]

Until the owner decides to do the full restore, I didnt want to fit anything that was going to drill holes or alter things, when he decide later to do such things, then thats fine.

I ended up fitting this gauge as it came complete with sender etc, round $100, where as some were the same money or more then you had to order the sender separately. Not vintage looking but easy to read and serves the purpose, temps run at 75 - 80 deg C, pretty happy with that.

Drove the Landie round to the motor trimmers I always use in Perth, as the quality of their work is second to none. Got a quote to redo all 6 seat blocks in either a plain grey or as in the pic below, plain grey sides and a lighter woven look grey for the flats. Personally I like the look, it has a "older style" about it.

Regards
Daz

P.S just looked on rmmerbros, call it $600 AU in elephant hide, plus freight, whatever that would be.
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-EXT371__EHG
Local trimmers were $650.00

[SG1 Bones]

I like the look of the seat option. I think it gives it a unique touch but not wreck the whole classic car look.

Sorry I didn't find the link to the elephant hide link.

Nathan.

[gromit]

Here's the link to Exmoor Elephant Hide material
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-ii-iia/226256-iia-deluxe-roof-liner-recovering.html

Exmoor have the vinyl specially made, I've tried to find an alternative with no luck.
Damiane found that a set of seat covers were 150GBP plus freight.


Colin