Jetskis and their idiot owners

[Chenz]

Decided to spend New Year's Day with family and friends on my boat having a picnic in Pitwatter near Barrenjoey. There were about 20 boats all anchored up having a swim and generally a good time.

Then they arrived. About 6 or seven jetskis racing around between the boats and chucking donuts and jumping each other's wake. Some were close to kids in kayaks and stand up paddleboards.

I put up with this for about 1/2 an hour then thought enough is enough. I smiled at one guy close to my boat and motioned him to come over. When he came in I pointed out that maybe the boats up here having a quiet picnic did not particularly want to listen or watch them showing what a pack of imbeciles they were. There is the whole of Pitwatter and the Hawkesbury to ride without giving people the ****s.

This chap, who happened to be of middle eastern appearance then launched into a tyraid of abuse and swearing threatening to get 20 of his mates and come back and ride around my boat as well as yelling out it was his right to ride where ever he wanted.

I told him to get as many as he wants and I will just make a short call to the Water Police and have them waiting when they get back.

This is not the first time I have had words with jetski riders on the water while fishing, cutting across my bow when coming into the bar at Forster, pulling onto the boat ramp out of turn and riding close to the beach and swimmers.

The best thing ever was banning them from Sydney Harbour. I am sure they are fun to ride but is seems that the guys that ride them seem to think everyone else is interested in how cool they are so they have to ride next to you to show you. I am also afraid that all of the ones that I have had run ins with are middle eastern and have attitude to burn.

Anyway he or his mates did not come back and we had a very pleasant time for the rest of the day

[Chops]

And their not much better behind the wheel of a car either.
Cut off again today by some clown towing one.
Miles of duel lane hwy at their disposal, and for some reason they think they need to cut you off to get back to the left lane.

*******.

[Scouse]

We have, or had, a nice quiet swimming spot on the Nepean River only a km or so from home. The water ranges from around 50cm to a metre or so & it's great for the kids. Unfortunately, it's now frequented by jetskiers who like to go up & down the river there so virtually no one swims in that section anymore. I certainly don't let my kids go in there while the ******* are doing their thing.

Apparently, there used to be signs banning the use but they used to get pulled down. Now the RMS & council don't seem to care.

[Chenz]

The times I have tried to get onto the water police they ask for a rego number. This hard to get off a small craft doing 100klms throwing up spray.
Once at Huskisson on Jervis Bay there were two of the Habibis riding flat out no more than 30m from kids swimming on Xmas holidays. I called the police who turned up and got mouthful from the jetski riders and their family on the beach. They had a word and they packed up and left

[MR LR]

I've had a jet ski in the past... great fun and I didn't ride it any differently to how I drive my ski boat, that is to say, I was fairly responsible.

These days we know them as "sea camels", largely because the waters are full of middle eastern guys riding them... LOL :wasntme:

The problem has gotten so bad that you can no longer launch them off the beach at Boat Harbour, or even drive them near the beach (an exclusion zone has been set up). This is because of irresponsible riders not keeping correct distances off etc. So they've ruined it for all of us.

PWC riders are now on high alert in the Hacking and George's rivers, and I expect they'll probably eventually get banned like in the Harbour. It's a shame for us responsible riders, but I no longer have one so the issue is moot to me. Might even drop back to just a boat license next renewal...

[Eevo]

having never ridden a jetski, are they breaking the law or inconveniencing you? :confused:

[87County]

having never ridden a jetski, where the breaking the law or inconveniencing you? :confused:

? ?

Seniors' moment evo ?

Now you've confused us 😊

[Eevo]

? ?

Seniors' moment evo ?

Now you've confused us 😊

edited :)

[Mick_Marsh]

Ah, jetskis, the cycles of the waterways.
http://transportsafety.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/29533/08-Personal-watercraft-VBSH2015.pdf

About 6 or seven jetskis racing around between the boats and chucking donuts and jumping each other's wake. Some were close to kids in kayaks and stand up paddleboards.
Sounds to me they were doing a tad more than five knots.

[pop058]

having never ridden a jetski, are they breaking the law or inconveniencing you? :confused:

I believe there are speed and approach limits in relation to their use, so probably both by the sounds of it. At he end of the day, it is as simple as respect and consideration of others. It is a 2 way street off course but I have never heard of swimmers invading PWC turf.

[Saitch]

Ever since their inception I've referred to them as "Wankmobiles" although I do know a couple of blokes who have theirs set up for fishing & I have to say that they're pretty schmick & an excellent fishing platform but, unfortunately, they're an extremely minor group!
Steve

[NavyDiver]

Decided to spend New Year's Day with family and friends on my boat having a picnic in Pitwatter near Barrenjoey. There were about 20 boats all anchored up having a swim and generally a good time.

Then they arrived. About 6 or seven jetskis racing around between the boats and chucking donuts and jumping each other's wake. Some were close to kids in kayaks and stand up paddleboards.

I put up with this for about 1/2 an hour then thought enough is enough. I smiled at one guy close to my boat and motioned him to come over. When he came in I pointed out that maybe the boats up here having a quiet picnic did not particularly want to listen or watch them showing what a pack of imbeciles they were. There is the whole of Pitwatter and the Hawkesbury to ride without giving people the ****s.

This chap, who happened to be of middle eastern appearance then launched into a tyraid of abuse and swearing threatening to get 20 of his mates and come back and ride around my boat as well as yelling out it was his right to ride where ever he wanted.

I told him to get as many as he wants and I will just make a short call to the Water Police and have them waiting when they get back.

This is not the first time I have had words with jetski riders on the water while fishing, cutting across my bow when coming into the bar at Forster, pulling onto the boat ramp out of turn and riding close to the beach and swimmers.

The best thing ever was banning them from Sydney Harbour. I am sure they are fun to ride but is seems that the guys that ride them seem to think everyone else is interested in how cool they are so they have to ride next to you to show you. I am also afraid that all of the ones that I have had run ins with are middle eastern and have attitude to burn.

Anyway he or his mates did not come back and we had a very pleasant time for the rest of the day
Toss up Flag Alpha (http://www.dive-flag.com/alpha.html) on your boat before you call the water police:D

Just have your snorkel stuff ready.

I have Alpha on a float while diving as well as on the boat. Most boats and PWCs keep clear. Oddly it is really only a legal obligation if on the boat not on a float attached to me.

In summer scallop diving can be dangerous in Port Philip Bay.

Announce a flare and rocket test to the water police. Put Flag Bravo up first :wasntme:

[MR LR]

Toss up Flag Alpha (http://www.dive-flag.com/alpha.html) on your boat before you call the police:D

Just have your snorkel stuff ready.

I have Alpha on a float while diving as well as on the boat. Most boats and PWCs keep clear. Oddly it is really only a legal obligation if on the boat not on a float attached to me.

In summer scallop diving can be dangerous in Port Philip Bay.

Announce a flare and rocket test to the water police. Put Flag Bravo up first :wasntme:
How many sea camel pilots do you seriously think would know what that meant, or take any notice of it whatsoever?

Most of them can't even grasp the concept of Port and Starboard!

[Eevo]

How many sea camel pilots do you seriously think would know what that meant,

or the police, lol

[pop058]

or the police, lol

Water Police will

[NavyDiver]

Water Police will
X2:D
Water police not police was meant sorry, motor bikes and cars are not very good on water so I assumed the Water part of police would be clear sorry :angel:

[NavyDiver]

How many sea camel pilots do you seriously think would know what that meant, or take any notice of it whatsoever?

Most of them can't even grasp the concept of Port and Starboard!

Doubt one would- point is the prosecutions potential is significantly higher and much easier.


We did do over a few on Sydney harbour for it- promise NSW water police are nice girls and boys

[Disco-tastic]

Are you allowed to fly flag alpha if you dont have a diver down?

Cheers

Dan

[NavyDiver]

Are ypu allowed to fly flag alpha if you dont have a diver down?

Cheers

Dan
preparation is allowed so aye aye tastic

[Blknight.aus]

Are ypu allowed to fly flag alpha if you dont have a diver down?

Cheers

Dan

yes, you are alowed but only for a short time before and after a planned dive.

My guess is its 30 minutes before the first diver enters the water and 30 minutes after the last diver exits the water after the last dive in the area, so if you're doing 2 2 hour dives and have a 90 minute surface time between...........(I personally would put it up 30 minutes before and pull it 10 minutes after but wouldnt leave it up between unless I was amongst a group of boats that still had divers down)

[Disco-tastic]

Thanks Blk and ND. I meant more if you were just fishing yet flew the flag to (try to) make people take care around you. Didnt make that very clear tho :o

Cheers

Dan

[NavyDiver]

Flag Alpha can be flow for divers not fishing. Snorkelling is diving. I put Alpha up before I get into the water. I assume many boats go for a swim when anchored as described and would also assume many boats have a Dive mask and snorkel ready to wear even if they don;t due to being harassed by PWCs :wasntme:. NSW law in inshore waters states
"......there are no regulations in place governing the use of floats and flags by divers who operate from a shoreline. While RMS Boating Safety Officers (BSOs) educate boat users on the water, the focus is mostly on general boating safety campaigns" It would help prosecution not be the reason for prosecution.

Best still water police are probably just as fed up chasing the few PWCs who are tossers around and may appreciate the flag for swimmers in the water even if they are mostly on top:D. Many PWC riders are fine. We only get to see the ones who get in our faces while breaking several boating regs.

Have to mention a very angry lady in Port Fairy Vic a few years ago who insisted I was breaking the law dropping off and picking up kids from a beach on a ski tube once. Under five knots to and from the beach and always well clear of swimmers. I had to wait to allow her to wade 200m over for her to shout at me :o I think she mistook me for a PWC which was upsetting everyone. She even called the police to report my low speed offences. Police man and I agreed she needed a holiday from her holiday. Her kids asked for a ride and got one :angel: I think she could have been even more grumpy about them but I stopped waiting for her to come to me to shout at me after the first time. (The kids & dad was a nice chap poor chap :D)

[Disco-tastic]

Thanks NavyDiver - that is what i had thought.

Sorry for the hijack!

Cheers

Dan

[gofish]

I think they are designed for people with no skill (let's see them on a surf board,etc) who want to show-pony & look "cool". The sound is annoying & they clog up boat ramps. The water used to be such a peaceful place to be.....rant over :D

[weeds]

Interesting discussion......I too dislike jet ski (from my water ski days)

In saying that I went out in a mates boat for some off shore fishing.........both of us got our boat licence at 16..,,nearly 30 years ago. I doubt either of us would know what flags meant.

We do give all boats a wide berth, don't be dickheads and remember the basic to motor around safely (give way to sail boats, give way to anything bigger than you.....the red/green marker are easy)

[strangy]

Just hand them some home made travel flyers encouraging them to go to the Top End to use their toys.
Crocs and Sharks might appreciate the variety.

[MR LR]

I think they are designed for people with no skill

You obviously haven't driven one then! Especially not a stand up.

They require power to steer, a very difficult concept to grasp for most punters, which is why there are so many crashes.

Not that I am encouraging the use of them...

[lpj]

Jetski's are a bit like really noisy dirt bikes. The only person who is having fun is the person riding them. Everyone else hates you. I'm reminded of a Leunig cartoon from years back. I cut it out and gave it to a mate who had a jet ski.

Ode To A Jet-Ski Person was written by Michael Leunig and comes from Poems 1972-2002, published by Viking.

Ode To A Jet-Ski Person

Jet-ski person, selfish fink,
May your silly jet-ski sink,
May you hit a pile of rocks,
Oh Hoonish, summer, coastal pox.

Noisy, smoking, dickhead fool
On your loathsome leisure tool,
Give us all a jolly lark
And sink beside a hungry shark.

Scream as in its fangs you go,
Your last attention-seeking show,
While on the beach we all join in
With "Three cheers for the dorsal fin!"

[p38arover]

Jetski's are a bit like really noisy dirt bikes. The only person who is having fun is the person riding them. Everyone else hates you.

Yes. Much like Harley riders and their noisy bikes.

(Disclaimer: I used to ride a dirt bike 40+ years ago but in the bush around Ceduna and Carnarvon - and it still had the stock exhaust.)

[lpj]

Yes. Much like Harley riders and their noisy bikes. (Disclaimer: I used to ride a dirt bike 40+ years ago but in the bush around Ceduna and Carnarvon - and it still had the stock exhaust.)

Don't get me started on Harley's!!
Hey- Everyone is entitled to have fun. Some people are just not self aware enough to realise that their "fun" is annoying others. At least with dirt bikes, there is usually not swimmers bobbing in and out of bushes!

[Greatsouthernland]

Yes. Much like Harley riders and their noisy bikes.

(Disclaimer: I used to ride a dirt bike 40+ years ago but in the bush around Ceduna and Carnarvon - and it still had the stock exhaust.)

I have to add that I hate the noise pollution hardleys make...can't be legal? It's such a 'look at me and I don't give a **** about your right to hear anything but my exhaust' type of nauseating burble. The type of sound that only someone with no self-respect can like :p

Now a Ducati on the other hand, pure bliss and it actually handles more than a straight line.

[Mick_Marsh]

I have to add that I hate the noise pollution hardleys make...can't be legal?
Often, no.
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/environment/files/NoiseLimitsOldandNew.pdf

[Blknight.aus]

Thanks Blk and ND. I meant more if you were just fishing yet flew the flag to (try to) make people take care around you. Didnt make that very clear tho :o

Cheers

Dan

Flying an alpha with rods visible on the boat, especially with lines in the water is more or less an guaranteed way to get the WP's attention and be invited to have a conversation, and if its not it should be.

As a diver, I hate coming up into fishing line, I especially hate when the token fisherman throws his heavy line in and hooks up a 4 foot shark, I do not want to see that hauled up to the boat after I've just been hanging off the drop line for 5 at 5 while being told "you guys took your time, can you hurry up and get out of the water so I can real this in?"

[lebanon]

I can teach you some swearing middle eastern words to keep them at bay. :D
:wasntme:


Decided to spend New Year's Day with family and friends on my boat having a picnic in Pitwatter near Barrenjoey. There were about 20 boats all anchored up having a swim and generally a good time.

Then they arrived. About 6 or seven jetskis racing around between the boats and chucking donuts and jumping each other's wake. Some were close to kids in kayaks and stand up paddleboards.

I put up with this for about 1/2 an hour then thought enough is enough. I smiled at one guy close to my boat and motioned him to come over. When he came in I pointed out that maybe the boats up here having a quiet picnic did not particularly want to listen or watch them showing what a pack of imbeciles they were. There is the whole of Pitwatter and the Hawkesbury to ride without giving people the ****s.

This chap, who happened to be of middle eastern appearance then launched into a tyraid of abuse and swearing threatening to get 20 of his mates and come back and ride around my boat as well as yelling out it was his right to ride where ever he wanted.

I told him to get as many as he wants and I will just make a short call to the Water Police and have them waiting when they get back.

This is not the first time I have had words with jetski riders on the water while fishing, cutting across my bow when coming into the bar at Forster, pulling onto the boat ramp out of turn and riding close to the beach and swimmers.

The best thing ever was banning them from Sydney Harbour. I am sure they are fun to ride but is seems that the guys that ride them seem to think everyone else is interested in how cool they are so they have to ride next to you to show you. I am also afraid that all of the ones that I have had run ins with are middle eastern and have attitude to burn.

Anyway he or his mates did not come back and we had a very pleasant time for the rest of the day

[Chenz]

I can teach you some swearing middle eastern words to keep them at bay. :D
:wasntme:

Thanks Lebanon. I am merely pointing out that like everyone, I like to have my relaxation time maximised without people of any background undertaking activities which upset what the majority of people are wanting to do.

In this case, all of the boats moored were having a quiet relaxing time with friends and family. It does not take a rocket surgeon to work out that riding a noisy watercraft in close proximity to them, their boats, or their loved ones in the water may cause them to be frowned upon and asked to go somewhere else.

If I pulled up to where they were operating away from everyone and then told them to rack off they would have every right to tell me to stick my boat where the sun does not shine.

It just sems to me that where ever I see them, it is the same bunch of Habibis hell bent on trying to show everyone how fully sick their souped up Jetski is.

I was never a fan of Bob Carr as Premier but I am eternally grateful for him banning them on Sydney Harbour

I am afraid that it won't be long until they are banned from all popular waterways such as Botany and Broken Bay. maybe they can set aside an area near the sewer outfalls for Jetskis:wasntme:

[Tombie]

Often, no.
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/environment/files/NoiseLimitsOldandNew.pdf

Umm.... :angel: My K7 model Suzuki idles louder than that... :twisted::twisted:


Keep in mind everyone - that a view of what's unpleasant is subjective to all people. How loud? What frequency? Time? Type of noise? etc etc...

:cool:

[p38arover]

Keep in mind everyone - that a view of what's unpleasant is subjective to all people. How loud? What frequency? Time? Type of noise? etc etc...

Harley exhausts are objectionable to most people.

[rangieman]

Harley exhausts are objectionable to most people.

X2 and the bare knuckle idiots that think they are the best thing since laced up shoes:angel:

[rangieman]

I have to add that I hate the noise pollution hardleys make...can't be legal? It's such a 'look at me and I don't give a **** about your right to hear anything but my exhaust' type of nauseating burble. The type of sound that only someone with no self-respect can like :p

Now a Ducati on the other hand, pure bliss and it actually handles more than a straight line.

One Harley spanker once claimed to me Noisey Pipes Save Lives that be the mind set as majority ride like obsessed idiots so i guess it works for them:angel:.
Mmmm Ducati Now that is music to my ears:D
Now my Triumph Triple has a factory sports pipe it`s not intrusive but just a sweet note;)

[MR LR]

One Harley spanker once claimed to me Noisey Pipes Save Lives that be the mind set as majority ride like obsessed idiots so i guess it works for them:angel:.
Mmmm Ducati Now that is music to my ears:D
Now my Triumph Triple has a factory sports pipe it`s not intrusive but just a sweet note;)
But to a Harley guy, yours might sound like a girls bike :wasntme:

See, it's subjective.

[whlump]

Been camping on the Murray at Torrumbarry for two weeks now I must say the boaties and jet ski's seem to be getting along just fine atm but I did have to have a word with a young girl in her little car going round and round the dirt tracks making lots of dust just said that's a good way to p*&s off a lot of the campers here and she politely appoligized and stopped

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[rangieman]

But to a Harley guy, yours might sound like a girls bike :wasntme:

See, it's subjective.

Whoopie:p My Triumph goes around corners well , My Triumph also has a lot more than sufficient braking oh and i my bike would whoop a hardly in top speed .It would also go further on a tank of fuel than a hardly AND this is all in standard form.
I get the horses for courses thing but sorry not my cup of tea:p

[MR LR]

Whoopie:p My Triumph goes around corners well , My Triumph also has a lot more than sufficient braking oh and i my bike would whoop a hardly in top speed .It would also go further on a tank of fuel than a hardly AND this is all in standard form.
I get the horses for courses thing but sorry not my cup of tea:p
You don't need to convince me! Haha!

[spudboy]

Don't get me started on Harley's!!


Most of the Harley riders out our way are accountants and dentists pretending to be bad boys on a Sunday morning, going to the local bakery for a latte!

Real "1 percenters"...

[Greatsouthernland]

Umm.... :angel: My K7 model Suzuki idles louder than that... :twisted::twisted:


Keep in mind everyone - that a view of what's unpleasant is subjective to all people. How loud? What frequency? Time? Type of noise? etc etc...

:cool:

How loud - factory hardly exhaust, excessive plonker factor loud, no measurement required.

What frequency - assume you mean Hz not how often... Don't know (no measurement) but every Sunday ;)

Time - 7am. I can't start a chainsaw or mow my lawn at this time, but a tool on a hardly can work his limp wrist up my suburban street shaking the windows.

Type of noise - boring bland but intrusive (offensive to most) attempt at increasing exhaust volume to mask all other inadequacies about a hardly and the knobs that crank them up around the suburbs, especially early SUNDAY mornings :angel:

Sorry Chenz, a bit off topic, but hardleys are the jetskis of the road ;)

[Greatsouthernland]

Most of the Harley riders out our way are accountants and dentists pretending to be bad boys on a Sunday morning, going to the local bakery for a latte!

Real "1 percenters"...

What a waste of money, especially in the winding Adelaide Hills.

If they want real comfort and enjoyment but are too precious for a Duke or Triumph, a Goldwing is 10 times better than a hardly and wont shake your fillings out, goes faster, corners better, brakes better, is safer and more comfortable to ride longer, uses less fuel, costs less to maintain, less of a theft target etc. I really fail to see what's good about a hardly...and I generally love motorbikes having only recently stopped riding (Ducati 750SS, poor man's 916).

[BMKal]

Hardley owners get really ****ed off when you tell them that their engine would make a good workshop compressor. ;)

Don't ask me how I know this .............. :angel:

Was a very nice Triumph parked in my back yard yesterday. Not mine though, unfortunately.

[Eevo]

great at turning petrol into noise with some power as the side effect

[MR LR]

great at turning petrol into noise with some power as the side effect
Sounds like you're describing a Rover V8 :wasntme:

[bee utey]

Watch Australia's First Electric Jet Ski In Action | Gizmodo Australia (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/10/watch-australias-first-electric-jet-ski-in-action/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNpSZly3C8

[Mick_Marsh]

Watch Australia's First Electric Jet Ski In Action | Gizmodo Australia (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/10/watch-australias-first-electric-jet-ski-in-action/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNpSZly3C8
What about getting a batski?
The All-Electric, Carbon Fibre Silveira Green Samba, Or The BatSki | Gizmodo Australia (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/07/the-all-electric-carbon-fibre-silveira-green-samba-or-the-batski/)

30min ride time. They don't mention charge time or where the power points for charging are on the beach.

[lebanon]

Thanks Lebanon. I am merely pointing out that like everyone, I like to have my relaxation time maximised without people of any background undertaking activities which upset what the majority of people are wanting to do.

In this case, all of the boats moored were having a quiet relaxing time with friends and family. It does not take a rocket surgeon to work out that riding a noisy watercraft in close proximity to them, their boats, or their loved ones in the water may cause them to be frowned upon and asked to go somewhere else.

If I pulled up to where they were operating away from everyone and then told them to rack off they would have every right to tell me to stick my boat where the sun does not shine.

It just sems to me that where ever I see them, it is the same bunch of Habibis hell bent on trying to show everyone how fully sick their souped up Jetski is.

I was never a fan of Bob Carr as Premier but I am eternally grateful for him banning them on Sydney Harbour

I am afraid that it won't be long until they are banned from all popular waterways such as Botany and Broken Bay. maybe they can set aside an area near the sewer outfalls for Jetskis:wasntme:

Chenz,

I understand your point of view. Habibis are a plague. I could just imagine their faces if someone was on your boat who could speak their language. I am 100% sure that they would have disappeared in a second.

My offer is still valid till 2017 :)

[Ausfree]

What about getting a batski?
The All-Electric, Carbon Fibre Silveira Green Samba, Or The BatSki | Gizmodo Australia (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/07/the-all-electric-carbon-fibre-silveira-green-samba-or-the-batski/)

30min ride time. They don't mention charge time or where the power points for charging are on the beach.

Guess you could take a petrol generator with you!!!:whistling:

[D2lee]

having never ridden a jetski, are they breaking the law or inconveniencing you? :confused:

I would say putting peoples lives at risk is breaking the law, but in reality these days, as per dangerous drivers on the road, not much happens unless the police can either make money out of it, or someone ends up dead. :censored:

[Toxic_Avenger]

Would still ride the crap out of this, irrespective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOxy0IX0RYA

[Mick_Marsh]

Would still ride the crap out of this, irrespective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOxy0IX0RYA
Is he being a responsible PWC rider and riding at below 5 knots?

[Toxic_Avenger]

Is he being a responsible PWC rider and riding at below 5 knots?

He's not in Australia, and it looks to be a designated course with buoys for him to race around. So not knowing his local rules, he is responsible enough for me.

[p38arover]

Chenz,

I understand your point of view. Habibis are a plague. I could just imagine their faces if someone was on your boat who could speak their language. I am 100% sure that they would have disappeared in a second.

My offer is still valid till 2017 :)

I thought habibi was a term of endearment. My Arabic is now limited to just a few words. I've forgotten nearly everything I learned at night school in Riyadh.

[lebanon]

I thought habibi was a term of endearment. My Arabic is now limited to just a few words. I've forgotten nearly everything I learned at night school in Riyadh.

You are absolutly correct, it is a term of endearment, the exact meaning is "My beloved" but it is being used in a pegorative sense.

[Boxhead63]

I am dead set serious in saying the following--The race described in a lot of the posts on this thread were one of main reasons that the Boxhead clan moved to other climes especially as described in the realm of boating on Sydney waterways. There was just never any peace and quite. I recall being approximately 8ks off shore one day enjoying the best of fishing in the Sydney scene when a small school of these Water Camel riding tools turned up. Lets say once again i couldn't help myself and got stuck in to them. It was one of last straws to break the camels back. However, with all of the above going on in Sydney waterways i have now found myself on the most beautiful region in the world where in Summer the Mackerel are plentiful and obliging and in Winter the Snapper bite and are landed as a regular occurrence. But in all good things there must be a touch of bad. There are a few of the Water Camel fraternity up on the Sunny, these can be bothersome but with a quick word letting them know of their wrongs they will quickly right their ways. Another thing is quite apparent up here on the Sunny all government bodies are very pro-active in the management of the waterways and are quick to jump on them.

I should at this point thank the errant and troublesome Water Camel Jockeys for helping us make the move to better places.

Thanks and cheers,
Rob

[carjunkieanon]

Would still ride the crap out of this, irrespective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOxy0IX0RYA

My goodness that's fast.

If I were on that it'd be:

1) rev throttle
2) fall off
3) pick up the pieces from where it ran up the bank
4) walk back head hanging low in shame.

[p38arover]

But I'd love to try it.

[carlschmid2002]

I have to add that I hate the noise pollution hardleys make...can't be legal? It's such a 'look at me and I don't give a **** about your right to hear anything but my exhaust' type of nauseating burble. The type of sound that only someone with no self-respect can like :p

Now a Ducati on the other hand, pure bliss and it actually handles more than a straight line.

Have you heard the sound of the new Indian with a set of pipes. I will admit that if my neighbour was a shift worker and had one it would irritate me.

[steane]

Some things in life don't have to be completely practical or logical or make economic sense. Some people like the way a Harley, looks, feels and sounds. They like what it is. Goldwings make me cringe. IMO they look like something old, fat, keychain wearing people would ride. They look about as cool as hot bath and as interesting as a frozen dinner.

Give me a Harley any day. Mind you I'd still be too scared to ride it or any other bike on the road.

Currently down the river and jetskis aren't an issue. Although they aren't being ridden by people that look middle eastern but this is South Australia. Some of them are blindingly quick:o

[MR LR]

When I think Goldwing, all I think is 'fat idiot from Florida'.

[rangieman]

When I think Goldwing, all I think is 'fat idiot from Florida'.

When i think of Hardly all i think of is some one that is compensating for a small penis :p. Or that midlife midlife change till it almost`s spits them off around a bend which happened to a good mate of mine :cool:
It gets me the majority of Hardly riders dont wear full protection and at times barley legal helmets it`s all about the so called tuff image:confused:.
I for one have seen the effects of a rider come unstuck with out the correct protection it was not a pretty sight :eek:, Because of that no matter what weather or circumstances i wear the full gear ;).
When i ride my bike the image is the last thing i think of it is more about making it as save as i can except i can not be a judge for the other road users that are out to get you:censored:

[Homestar]

When i think of Hardly all i think of is some one that is compensating for a small penis :p. Or that midlife midlife change till it almost`s spits them off around a bend which happened to a good mate of mine :cool:
It gets me the majority of Hardly riders dont wear full protection and at times barley legal helmets it`s all about the so called tuff image:confused:.
I for one have seen the effects of a rider come unstuck with out the correct protection it was not a pretty sight :eek:, Because of that no matter what weather or circumstances i wear the full gear ;).
When i ride my bike the image is the last thing i think of it is more about making it as save as i can except i can not be a judge for the other road users that are out to get you:censored:

Agree 100%. I ride my bike for me, not for anyone else. I don't give a rats what I look like (Probably like the Michelin Man wearing a helmet) :D

[B92 8NW]

When i think of Hardly all i think of is some one that is compensating for a small penis :p. Or that midlife midlife change till it almost`s spits them off around a bend which happened to a good mate of mine :cool:
It gets me the majority of Hardly riders dont wear full protection and at times barley legal helmets it`s all about the so called tuff image:confused:.
I for one have seen the effects of a rider come unstuck with out the correct protection it was not a pretty sight :eek:, Because of that no matter what weather or circumstances i wear the full gear ;).
When i ride my bike the image is the last thing i think of it is more about making it as save as i can except i can not be a judge for the other road users that are out to get you:censored:

With you all the way on that. My brother took a tumble not long back at about 55km/h when a kanga sprang out of thin air. The pants and jacket took a solid grazing and if that had've been skin it would have been down to the bone easily.

[Mick_Marsh]

Agree 100%. I ride my bike for me, not for anyone else. I don't give a rats what I look like (Probably like the Michelin Man wearing a helmet) :D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/658.jpg


Or, if you want to be "bad ass"
http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics4/New-Michelin-Man.jpg

'Tis amazing what you get when you Google "michelin man with helmet".

[Homestar]

Wow, suddenly I feel good about myself after seeing that pic.... :D

[Mick_Marsh]

At first I thought his air bag went off.

[Stuck]

Would still ride the crap out of this, irrespective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOxy0IX0RYA
Looks to me like he's frustrated because he can't find a boat.

[Toxic_Avenger]

;)
Looks to me like he's frustrated because he can't find a boat.

You know what they say:
Bust
Out
Another
Thousand

I know what dry dock fees and reco's on inboard V8's are worth... I'd rather stick to something more... economical...

[Stuck]

When I'm out in either of my Bring Out Another Thousand 's ($?) I like to mind my own business, soak a line and keep to myself. I'd rather slam my slug in a car door than ride a jet ski but each to their own.

[V8Ian]

When I think Goldwing, all I think is 'fat idiot from Florida'.
What a brilliant display of ignorance, obviously you've never ridden a Wing.:rolleyes:

[Toxic_Avenger]

What a brilliant display of ignorance, obviously you've never ridden a Wing.:rolleyes:

My defender doesn't have an airbag, therefore my motorbike shouldn't either!

[Eevo]

My defender doesn't have an airbag, therefore my motorbike shouldn't either!

your pillion should have 2 airbags

[V8Ian]

My defender doesn't have an airbag, therefore my motorbike shouldn't either!

Nor does mine but according to Honda, it is potentially a lifesaving option.
Perhaps when the new Defender comes out with airbags, they will be considered part of ATGATT on bikes.
Personally, I think the the most important item on the ATGATT list is clean jocks. If you have an off, the first thing they do is cut your pants off.

[Mick_Marsh]

Nor does mine but according to Honda, it is potentially a lifesaving option.
Perhaps when the new Defender comes out with airbags, they will be considered part of ATGATT on bikes.
Personally, I think the the most important item on the ATGATT list is clean jocks. If you have an off, the first thing they do is cut your pants off.
If I came off a bike, clean jocks or not, they'd soil pretty quickly.

[V8Ian]

If I came off a bike, clean jocks or not, they'd soil pretty quickly. Ah Mick, you're obviously not a bike bloke. When you come off you don't have time to soil your jocks, you're too busy worrying about the bike.

[Tombie]

ATGATT... I'd take the car....

SGSOTT... Life's too short to worry...

When cruising around town in summer I'll go shorts and T-shirt.

After all a Lycra warrior is going as quick and no ones sees the issue..

[rangieman]

ATGATT... I'd take the car....

SGSOTT... Life's too short to worry...

When cruising around town in summer I'll go shorts and T-shirt.

After all a Lycra warrior is going as quick and no ones sees the issue..

Hell you might aswell wear thongs too seeing as your high on the skin graft list for intelligent people:eek:

[V8Ian]

Hell you might aswell wear thongs too seeing as your high on the skin graft list for intelligent people:eek:
Now you're being silly, that's too hard on the toes when changing up.

[rangieman]

Now you're being silly, that's too hard on the toes when changing up.

Dont worry i have seen plenty that do wear thongs when riding so it is possible for some ;) I guess they have calluses on their toe`s for up changes:eek:

[ramblingboy42]

jeez.....I'm a freebagger......don't look Ethel!

[Tombie]

Hell you might aswell wear thongs too seeing as your high on the skin graft list for intelligent people:eek:


I hear that occasionally; often From those who risk assess differently. I always wear closed in footwear - even as a kid on a treadly..

I ride to work, never crack 80km/h...
Regularly paced by a mate on the bike track...

He's in a T-shirt and shorts with a cyclist helmet on... No-one says a word...

Perception is subjective...

On longer runs, out of town, the gear comes out..

Unlike those who are judging people on what they ride, it has a lot more to do with how they ride...

Almost all weekend warriors I've met have put a bike down more than once... Because when they're out on their bike they enjoy massaging a few speed limits, pushing corners etc. fun as heck but not exactly responsible, risk assessed riding [emoji106]

I've seen blokes on Cruisers put blokes on Ducatis and Litre bikes to shame on twisties, I've ridden with a 5'4" 75kg bloke who would back a 375kg bike into corners without a thought...

The roads around town present very little risk... And if I had to gear up for a 5 minute run each time I'd sell the bike...

It doesn't matter what you ride, it matters that you ride..

And there's plenty of dicks on Ducs and Tools on Trumps to match the Harley try Hards...

For the record, I currently ride a Suzuki Cruiser.... I like all bikes..

[TerryO]

jeez.....I'm a freebagger......don't look Ethel!

Any excuse to put this link up, thanks ramblingboy. ... ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bxUfg3uCBbg