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rfurzer
9th January 2016, 08:18 AM
G'day

I have found this pic of a rather lovely 2 tone county about 1985. The site suggests that it is original.

I'm curious about the B pillar being painted Trident Green. Most station wagons i've seen have the B pillar above the door hinge painted Ivory White like the sec on phot.

How much factory variation was there?

JDNSW
9th January 2016, 08:49 AM
Probably quite a lot of variation, not only over the period of production (1983-1989), but also between different production locations (e.g. Australia vs UK vs S.A. etc). I personally do not remember seeing any where the lower body colour did not extend all the way to the roof line.

John

Judo
9th January 2016, 07:22 PM
Looks great I reckon!

rfurzer
9th January 2016, 08:03 PM
Thanks Judo

Do you reckon it looks better with the trident green B pillar (photo 1) or the all ivory-white B pillar (photo2)

steveG
9th January 2016, 08:37 PM
The green pillar looks horrible with everything else being white above the door line. Needs to be all colour or all white IMO.
I prefer the body colour up to the roof, but probably just because it's more familiar to me. With the square cornered series windows I think it looks ok in white too.

Steve

Judo
9th January 2016, 10:08 PM
Photo 2. All white on the pillar. The green pillar does look a bit odd.

MrLandy
9th January 2016, 10:15 PM
I quite like photo 1. The green line of B pillar accentuates the classic split side windows. Both look great though. Love the side stripes too.

rijidij
9th January 2016, 10:43 PM
I've seen a couple of Countys like that. As far as I know it will be a very, very early model County, like 1983, possibly one of the very first imported to Aus.
The last one I saw was in the car park at the tip of Cape York and that's where the conversation ended up.
I'm pretty sure there's a member on here with a blue and white one, hopefully he can comment on this.

Cheers, Murray

Just did a search for 1983 Defender and these are some of the results..........

http://www.jakewright.com/images/forSale/landroverHNW288Y.jpg

http://funrover.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/4013657.jpg

http://blog.roversnorth.com/wp-content/uploads/F4AD3925.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/637.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/638.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/639.jpg

JDNSW
10th January 2016, 05:41 AM
Looks as if this may be the colour scheme used in very early coil spring production - or possibly that used in ones that were not County trim, but later we only saw wagons with County trim. (Reminder that "County" is a trim level designation, used on Series 3, Range Rover, as well as 90/110, but which seems to have been appropriated in Australia to 110/120 pre-Defender Landrovers, the result of the fact that most sold were 110 wagons with "County" prominently blazoned on the sides!)

John

lebanon
10th January 2016, 06:46 AM
A friend has a green county 1984 model, it had the B pillar painted Ivory white when it was still on its original paint.

rijidij
10th January 2016, 10:44 AM
Looks as if this may be the colour scheme used in very early coil spring production - or possibly that used in ones that were not County trim.........................

John

I had the same thought John, but then I looked closer at the pics and noticed all of them have a small County decal at the rear.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/625.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Landys/1983-County_zpsr73byims.jpg.html)

rfurzer
10th January 2016, 08:39 PM
Looks as if this may be the colour scheme used in very early coil spring production - or possibly that used in ones that were not County trim, but later we only saw wagons with County trim. (Reminder that "County" is a trim level designation, used on Series 3, Range Rover, as well as 90/110, but which seems to have been appropriated in Australia to 110/120 pre-Defender Landrovers, the result of the fact that most sold were 110 wagons with "County" prominently blazoned on the sides!)

John

Thanks John

The odd-un is in NZ

rfurzer
23rd January 2016, 07:24 PM
dont suppose someone has a couple of early doors they could sell me?

rijidij
23rd January 2016, 09:23 PM
dont suppose someone has a couple of early doors they could sell me?

I don't like your chances of finding early County two piece doors, it's hard enough finding a good pair of one piece County doors with the lift up handles.

Series III doors would fit (someone correct me if I'm wrong) if you want two piece doors, but the latch/striker might be different.

Cheers, Murray

Dervish
24th January 2016, 07:18 AM
Series III doors would fit (someone correct me if I'm wrong) if you want two piece doors, but the latch/striker might be different.

Series III doors have a different latch, but would fit. The problem is that they aren't two piece (the request was for second row doors). The second row doors in question are incredibly rare, even in the UK. Fronts significantly less so as they went on to be the military spec door in both Aus and the UK.

I'd desperately love a set of these doors, but I don't hold much hope.

rijidij
25th January 2016, 08:24 AM
If you want second row two piece doors, then your only option might be finding a Stage One Series III Wagon (or an older Series wagon for that matter). There's quite a few Stage Ones in Australia, but it still wont be easy finding the doors individually.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/179.jpg

Dervish
25th January 2016, 05:17 PM
If you want second row two piece doors, then your only option might be finding a Stage One Series III Wagon (or an older Series wagon for that matter).


Stage One middle row doors aren't two piece. I was looking at one just today, coincidentally.

rfurzer
27th January 2016, 04:59 PM
Dervish and Rijidij

Thanks for your help- I had also understood that stage 1's had the same doors as the other series 3. The parts catalogue gives different numbers for the series 3 "except 109V8 - MTC 5386 and 7(left)", "109V8 MTC 5388,9" and "county station wagon MRC7217,8".

Searching for those numbers only gives a "hit" for 5386 and 7

There is no parts catalogue entry for a separate sidescreen (as there is for the early 110).

I have heard from someone else that stage 1 might have 2 part doors - perhaps there's more than one configuration. Wouldn't put it past the poms to have used 110 doors on the last few 109s if they were to hand at the factory.