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barkingmad
9th January 2016, 08:53 AM
Hi All, Next job is to build a set of drawers in my 90 and I of course want to maximise the size. I am considering getting a Rijidij carrier to get the weight off the rear door, and was wondering as a nice side effect it increased the door opening angle so would clear a slightly wider drawer. I am looking at doing a full length drawer and with the factory setup looks like I will lose 5-6 inches on the RHS.

Aguy
9th January 2016, 10:04 AM
Hi All, Next job is to build a set of drawers in my 90 and I of course want to maximise the size. I am considering getting a Rijidij carrier to get the weight off the rear door, and was wondering as a nice side effect it increased the door opening angle so would clear a slightly wider drawer. I am looking at doing a full length drawer and with the factory setup looks like I will lose 5-6 inches on the RHS.

I just had a look at mine and this is about the maximum width you will get while the door (with a Rijidij wheel carrier ) is wide open.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=104033&d=1452297660

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=104034&d=1452297660

Toxic_Avenger
9th January 2016, 10:55 AM
I too have thought about this, but I've got the mulgo strut on there in addition to the carrier.
The mulgo strut can hold the door open, and the door requires a little bit of a over-extension of the mulgo strut to activate the rijidij locking catch.

Might be worth asking rijidij whether the door 'full-open' angles are the same between his single carrier and the dual carrier.

By the pics above any my own observations, looks like you could gain an extra 30mm or so drawer width by running no strut at all, and modifying (hacking up) the rear door trim to suit. But I think you'll find that 'dead' space is a great spot for things like tent poles, tripods, and other long irregular things.

barkingmad
9th January 2016, 12:57 PM
Thanks for the replies. As you can see from the pictures the problem I have is with the door not opening to even 90 degrees which is quite different from AGuys. I can live with a 3 inch gap and agree the space will probably be useful (but having measured it it's actually 8 inches I will be losing which is a bit excessive!).

Toxic - How do you find the Mulgo strut plays with the carrier? Does it assist with the opening of the door, or is it really now superfluous to requirements with the carrier installed.

What I had not considered is that the strut would open the door wider that the original stop. I do have a strut kicking around that I got a while back as a solution to hold the door open, but sticking that in if it's about the same as the rijidij will buy me some time.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/670.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/671.jpg

Toxic_Avenger
9th January 2016, 01:28 PM
Compared to...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=104070&stc=1&d=1452309710
Mulgo strut lets you open more than 90 degrees.



http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=104071&stc=1&d=1452309996
Here you can see the (somewhat) straight edge (relatively) parallell with the wheel arches in the load space. The measurement is approx 25mm further inboard from the 'bump' on the door trim.


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=104074&stc=1&d=1452309996
Measurement at the door trim extremity at open (limit of mulgo strut)




http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=104075&stc=1&d=1452309996
Measurement at the door trim extremity at open (door pushed further open to engage catch on wheel carrier)

rijidij
9th January 2016, 11:01 PM
Land Rover must have changed something about the standard rear door stay recently. The doors on very recent models don't seem to open as wide as earlier ones.
I've actually altered the position of the pin hole for the carrier to allow for this, but it will still allow the door to open past 90*.
I would recommend removing the original stay when fitting a carrier as it's no longer needed to hold the door open, and it also unnecessarily flexes the inner panel where it's fixed.
I know it can be a hard decision to hack into a brand new car, but I would have no hesitation cutting that hump off the bottom of the rear door trim if it results in a practical outcome for your drawers design.

Cheers, Murray

noyakfat
11th January 2016, 09:40 PM
I hacked into my new 110 in the first weeks of owning it in 2014, so I could slide my spare into the load space. I just used a little saw and cut off that exact hump Murray mentioned. I am interested in a strut change for wider opening. Will consider.

noyakfat
12th January 2016, 12:15 PM
Here is a photo I took on my phone this arvo showing my door trim with the hacked off segment.

After almost two years, there is only a little bit of dust amongst that grease.

Cheers,

Toxic_Avenger
12th January 2016, 05:17 PM
That looks good! Not as bad as I expected it to.

What did you use to cut it?

For anyone working with plastic, there is a cutting disc for the grinder that works great with plastic- I've seen it cut a coke bottle without creating that plastic 'bur' that you get with other abrasive cutting wheels. Flexovit Multi-material discs (http://www.bunnings.com.au/flexovit-100-x-1-x-16mm-multi-material-reinforced-cut-off-wheel_p6310276)

noyakfat
12th January 2016, 05:31 PM
That looks good! Not as bad as I expected it to.

What did you use to cut it?



Thanks mate.

This is a little embarrassing, but I actually used a cheap little tenon saw (which I know is not designed for that type of thing) and started very slowly and carefully.

I was also surprised how well it came up.

Cheers,

Toxic_Avenger
12th January 2016, 05:33 PM
Irrespective it came up really well.
I'm terrible with a saw, but consider myself a surgeon with a grinder :p
Maybe I can add this to my list of 'very mild super powers' !

barkingmad
14th January 2016, 06:34 AM
That does look OK doesn't it. With Murray's recommendation of removing the original stay completely and a blanking plate behind the door trim it would look really quite neat.