View Full Version : How to seal a tapered thread?
Judo
21st February 2016, 03:48 PM
I was sort of under the impression a tapered thread - for example BSPT - is self sealing. I have a BSPT fitting in the the isuzu block for turbo oil feed but it's leaking. Is the answer just to do it up tighter or should I be using a thread sealer of some type?
I have locktite 243 if that's a good idea?
Talking about the brass fittings here...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/02/191.jpg
Cheers.
Judo
21st February 2016, 03:56 PM
Do I keep going until there is no gap between the brass fittings? I suspect I didn't get it that tight.... (limited space and visibility when doing it up!)
scarry
21st February 2016, 04:07 PM
It will never seal without a sealant or thread tape.
Be very careful or you will snap it off.:(
Brass is quite soft
We use thread tape,but a locktite product will also probably do,someone will chime in for sure with the type to use.
Blknight.aus
21st February 2016, 04:36 PM
a tapered thread is supposed to self seal. overuse and overtightening causes damage and prevents it from happening.
loctite 566 or 567 is the most appropriate answer thread tape will work as well,
243 will work but you need to be a little heavy handed with itfor it to work out properly which can make life a little interesting when it comes time to get it out. the 566 and 567 will seal up against a little oil contamination whereas the normal loctites wont.
generally most taper threads should seal up with finger tight+ 1/4-1/2 turn
Judo
21st February 2016, 05:01 PM
Thanks guys. I will get hold of some thread sealer.
What's the general consensus on teflon tape for an oil line?
incisor
21st February 2016, 05:52 PM
Thanks guys. I will get hold of some thread sealer.
What's the general consensus on teflon tape for an oil line?
i wouldn't use tape... loctite is much better in that situation imho
Blknight.aus
21st February 2016, 06:34 PM
if you use it right and make it neat no problems. loctite 567s just faster and easier to use right an neat.
ramblingboy42
21st February 2016, 06:53 PM
has everyone forgotten Stag?
smells good too.
scarry
21st February 2016, 07:37 PM
Thanks guys. I will get hold of some thread sealer.
What's the general consensus on teflon tape for an oil line?
The other issue,which i forgot to mention, is with thread tape,make sure none gets inside the fitting.It is the last thing you want in an oil line.
That is why, as others have said,locktite is better in this application.
Blknight.aus
21st February 2016, 07:41 PM
not in the slightest, its a brilliant goop but there are some applications where there are better goops to use.
If I was only allowed to carry one goop with me yet be expected to at least temporarily fix the most number of problems I would most likely grab a tube of stag.
For things like core plugs, flange seals, splines, dis-ssimilar metal mating faces, its very hard to go past.
In this application the consistency of the stag disrupting the "feel" of the thread winding in and seating counts against using it in my books.
loanrangie
22nd February 2016, 12:22 PM
has everyone forgotten Stag?
smells good too.
Good stuff stag is, i have used it on lpg fittings and coolant hose fittings on the tdi.
Shakey
22nd February 2016, 05:31 PM
No idea what stag is but given I've just cleaned the 1" BSPT thread on my 2.25 petrol and about to put the Welch plugs back, is that a job for stag?
loanrangie
22nd February 2016, 05:53 PM
No idea what stag is but given I've just cleaned the 1" BSPT thread on my 2.25 petrol and about to put the Welch plugs back, is that a job for stag?
Its a multi purpose fuel/gas/water resistant sealer.
https://www.autobarn.com.au/stag-jointing-paste-200-gram-tube-sg200
JDNSW
22nd February 2016, 07:37 PM
No idea what stag is but given I've just cleaned the 1" BSPT thread on my 2.25 petrol and about to put the Welch plugs back, is that a job for stag?
Yes.
John
Blknight.aus
22nd February 2016, 07:43 PM
No idea what stag is but given I've just cleaned the 1" BSPT thread on my 2.25 petrol and about to put the Welch plugs back, is that a job for stag?
They are perfect jobs for Stag... or, stag is perfect for those jobs...
Stag is a rusty coloured magical goop that one mastered will allow you to conduct a number of minor miracles when it comes to making things seal.
one of its key niceities is its rust coloured so it fits right in on most old iron engines.
67hardtop
22nd February 2016, 08:07 PM
Good stuff stag is, i have used it on lpg fittings and coolant hose fittings on the tdi.
Stag rules. Nothing better IMHO for the jobs its designed for.
Cheers Rod
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Shakey
22nd February 2016, 08:43 PM
They are perfect jobs for Stag... or, stag is perfect for those jobs...
Stag is a rusty coloured magical goop that one mastered will allow you to conduct a number of minor miracles when it comes to making things seal.
one of its key niceities is its rust coloured so it fits right in on most old iron engines.
Thanks folks, sounds like I'm off to but some stag!
Blknight.aus
22nd February 2016, 08:56 PM
can be gotten from auto pro, good supercheaps, autobahn, ive seen it in bunnings, and mitre 10. Large truck shops carry it
Judo
23rd February 2016, 07:10 PM
My leak seems to be fixed. I went with this stuff.
Loxeal 50ml Thread Sealant 58-11 Anaerobic Adhesive | Bunnings Warehouse (http://www.bunnings.com.au/loxeal-50ml-thread-sealant-58-11-anaerobic-adhesive_p4920450)
Shakey
7th August 2016, 02:32 PM
Can I just smear some stag around the non threaded Welch plugs too, or put those in dry?
JDNSW
7th August 2016, 02:50 PM
Yes
67hardtop
7th August 2016, 05:48 PM
Yes
X2 definatly. Good stuff.
Cheers Rod
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Tank
7th August 2016, 06:41 PM
Also "Stag" is Non-Toxic, used on water (drinking) pipes and pipe threads in machines that manufacture food, Good ****, before Teflon tape, Hemp and Stag were the go on Galvanised pipes, water and gas, Regards Frank
ramblingboy42
8th August 2016, 06:09 AM
.....and I remember stag parties were good too.
67hardtop
8th August 2016, 08:18 AM
.....and I remember stag parties were good too.
Theres gotta be one in the group....lol😂😂😂
Cheers Rod😎
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Roverlord off road spares
8th August 2016, 05:28 PM
has everyone forgotten Stag?
smells good too.
Stag, I knew an engine rebuilder that loved the stuff so much he even had it on toast I think.;)
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