At a total loss...

[xspwr2w8]

I have a 2000 D2 Td5

Before leaving for darwin from melbourne the rotors were changed and immediately after the 3 amigos came on. The mechanic plugged in the computer and found shuttle valve errors.
We were due to leave the next day and he said it would not effect the operation of the standard brake system.

So we took the car and began the journey...

Somewhere around broken hill the speedo dropped to 0 and cruise stopped working, using the GPS for speedo we continued as we were miles from anything.

Pulled up that night and found the car made a steady beeping and flashing red light on dash all night even when locked up.

Continued to dawin...

Now the transmission seems to be stuck in first despite putting it in first and the sports light stays on the dash
On top of this it seems the alternator has also gone as the battery light is on and battery drains in a 20 minute drive and needs to be jump started.

The speedo came back on for 100kms then quit again, I did notice also that no kms have been logged on the trip meter the whole way, including the 100ks it came back on.

Are any of these things linked?
Could the loss of speedo be messing with the transmission?

Seems to me like the car is falling apart from the inside out despite looking like a well looked after clean car.

If anyone has any ideas they would be much appreciated as we are very much stuck up here now.

Or know of a competent rover mechanic in darwin? we are staying with a friend about 20 mins south of Darwin city.

[xspwr2w8]

Also forgot to mention, now when turned off all the dash warning lights flash and temp and fuel needles move up and down.
These dont go out until the battery is disconnected.

Also the the SRS warning light decided to come for one of the days...

[Graeme]

The battery being down on voltage may be the cause of the gearbox faults.

[alien]

Welcome to AULRO, you have found one of the most helpful Land Rover forums around.

The speedo( and cruise) picks up signals from all 4 wheel(abs) sensors and then averages the signal.
With no input the transmission ECU will not be getting a speed input so may go to a default.

The main concern is the battery not holding charge, this can effect all the electrical systems.
Check for brake lights, this fuse also feeds the alternator charge circuit so it may just be blown fuse.

Get the battery/ charge issue sorted first then road test it to see if the other faults reset with a good voltage supply.
The shuttle valve could be any thing from a loose earth wire behind the LH headlamp to bad switches or faulty circuit board(option b fix).

[JDNSW]

At a quick guess, you have a faulty alternator, with all other problems flowing from this (Possibly intermittent). So yes, first thing to do is to get the alternator confirmed as working normally.



John

[ntguy]

I have sent you a message with my number. I am in Darwin

[ntguy]

It may be bigger issues than low battery/alternator. It may have several issues.

Hopefully its just the alternator

Did you do a VIN check on the vehicle before purchasing it?? Maybe its a repairable write off thats been in the drink? Highly unlikely, but you never know.

If its flashing lights etc when its turned of, this could be the ECU perhaps?? Maybe its soaked in Oil and causing these faults??

[Blknight.aus]

earthing issue
dying alternator (more specifically a blown diode or 2 in the rectifier pack)
BCU harness failure/damage

[p38arover]

Is the tachometer working? It gets its signal from the AC side of the alternator.

[justinc]

Is the tachometer working? It gets its signal from the AC side of the alternator.

Not on td5 Ron ☺☺☺

Jc

[cafe latte]

Had very similar issues with the Brigade td5, no speedo just like you said. It turned out to be a blown the alternator fuse and one of the battery clamps had come loose, the stupid ones with the hand tightening knob.
I hope your fix is as simple.
Chris

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I think its all voltage related,,
so make sure its charging properly. These things are set up for a calcium battery.

except the SRS light,
that will be the yellow connector under the driver seat.

[Ean Austral]

Do you access to a multi meter ? , should be able to start with the simple issue's of battery voltage , is the Alt charging , then you can follow the negative side and check for earth issue's, check some fuse's and then start looking more deeper into it.


Where about's are you ? Palmerston, humpty doo, or further south.


Cheers Ean

[4runnernomore]

BP in NIGHT CLIFF seems to be doing a lot of work on Landrovers these days. Always see disco's out the front of the workshop.

If you need access to a nanacom send us a PM I have the TD5 disco codes.

Cheers, Chrsi

[xspwr2w8]

Thanks for the reply's everyone, much appreciated.:)

Did a VIN check when purchased and came up clear.

Got access to a multi-meter today

So things checked now:
Brake lights are working.
Main Alternator fuse is OK
Alternator defiantly not putting out power.
Ground points behind LH head light ok

Have noticed the ECU has taken a knock from the jack coming loose at some time in the past, doesn't look too major just a dent in the cover.
What a strange place to store a large heavy piece of metal, next to the cars brains???

We are in berry springs.

[Narangga]

HD Mechanical at Humpty Doo are closer than the Nightcliff Service Centre.

Dan is very helpful and has a few Land Rovers pass through the workshop so give him a go if you are thinking of taking it somewhere.

[Blknight.aus]

thats youre engine ECU

your trans Ecu (from memory its been a while) is under the passenger seat and the BCU is up behind the glove box area

[Ean Austral]

If your Alternator is not charging I think that will be majority of your problems. from memory the D2 doesn't handle low voltage very well , and that would most likely be why all the lights and gauges are doing weird stuff , the car is most likely trying to give power to only the parts that require it the most.


You could try charging the battery to full charge then leave it hooked on and start the car , see if with it sitting you can get the car to bring the same type of issue's up on the dash.


Cheers Ean

[Nomad9]

Hi There,
If you go with Ean's suggestion make sure the battery charger has a bit of "grunt", would suggest something better than a 5 amp KMart brand.

Cheers Marty

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Even after you fix the alternator--
you will still need a fully charged batt to start it. The TD5's are a bit fussy with batt voltage.:angel:

I would think something modern rather than grunty in the charger department, the longer and smaller the charge the better when it comes to batts,,
However, you may not have days!:D

[ntguy]

Try to help these guys out today.

The guy posting is not the guy in trouble......

Its a friend who has brought this Disco a few weeks before travelling up here. He is travelling with his dog and has several serious medical problems.

I do have a 2nd alternator that we could have fitted, however after talking to the owner and his given medical condition. I suggested he may be better taking a plane home. he`s not enjoying the heat and humidity here.

He said the Disco looked like it had some new paint before and the ECU had taken a knock. That the dash lights stay on after being switched on. The tacho was the most reliable thing on the dash? He also said he heard a squeal from under the bonnet. This could have been the alternator or some other bearing etc.

Not sure if the Alternator will fix all the problems with this vehicle. It may do, but not sure. Bigger concern is if it doesn't fix it, then he could be stuck in the middle of no where in 40 odd degree heat with a heat condition etc.

[Blknight.aus]

IF its needed I'm swinging up on the 25th, I can arrange a day earlier if needed.

if he heads southwards I can lay on an emergency stopping point here, this kind of fault will show in the 300K to here

watch the oil line and discharge barb on alternator removal.

[xspwr2w8]

Thanks for the reply's and NTguy for his assistance.

Ended up a lift back to Vic on the back of a truck is the best option for this one, far to many electrical gremlins to tackle with limited access to parts.

Thanks again guys:)