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LandyAndy
15th March 2016, 09:35 PM
Anybody happy to share theirs.
I just made up a few for my Easter trip.Running bean sinker up to a Mustad 3/0 "Big Red" snapper rig.Hoping to get some 5/0 snapper rigs to convert before I go.
I usually use a herring or tailor fillet,or a mulie,or a whole small squid.
Any other methods????
Andrew

cuppabillytea
15th March 2016, 11:06 PM
A mate of mine catches a lot of Jewies from the wharf at work. He first catches a bucket full of Yellow Tail ( easy done ). Then he puts two hooks about 40 mm apart on short lines back to a single swivel. Then a long trace with a bean sinker in it to another swivel. One hook goes into the bait just behind the head and hooks through under the spine. The other hook goes in 40 mm back. The bait is live when he sets it and not to big a fish. Hope that helps. I'll draw it for you if my description is as clear as mud.

LandyAndy
16th March 2016, 07:08 PM
A mate of mine catches a lot of Jewies from the wharf at work. He first catches a bucket full of Yellow Tail ( easy done ). Then he puts two hooks about 40 mm apart on short lines back to a single swivel. Then a long trace with a bean sinker in it to another swivel. One hook goes into the bait just behind the head and hooks through under the spine. The other hook goes in 40 mm back. The bait is live when he sets it and not to big a fish. Hope that helps. I'll draw it for you if my description is as clear as mud.

Thanks.
That is basically the rig I described above.I hope I can get it to work,a mulloway on a new fishing outfit would be awesome.
Andrew

Chops
16th March 2016, 08:22 PM
A mate of mine catches a lot of Jewies from the wharf at work. He first catches a bucket full of Yellow Tail ( easy done ). Then he puts two hooks about 40 mm apart on short lines back to a single swivel. Then a long trace with a bean sinker in it to another swivel. One hook goes into the bait just behind the head and hooks through under the spine. The other hook goes in 40 mm back. The bait is live when he sets it and not to big a fish. Hope that helps. I'll draw it for you if my description is as clear as mud.



Don't be bashful Billy, draw away, I've never been Mulloway fishing before, I need to learn before I do. :D
You lucky bugger Andy, have fun and good luck, let us know how you go :D

tailslide
16th March 2016, 08:38 PM
The hard part you Andrew is catching the tailor first.:D:D:D:wasntme:

Mind you, I haven't tried targeting Jewfish...:o

cuppabillytea
16th March 2016, 09:04 PM
The hard part you Andrew is catching the tailor first.:D:D:D:wasntme:

Mind you, I haven't tried targeting Jewfish...:o

Imagine what you'd catch with Tailer for live bait. :eek:

ADMIRAL
16th March 2016, 09:26 PM
Haven't been fishing for Mulloway for ages. The rigs we used with plenty of success at the time were basically as follows.

Swivel to a good length ( say 3-400ml ) of wire trace, then a 3.0, followed 2 x 4.0, and then another 3.0 for the tail. The size of the hooks varied dependant on the size of the bait we had available, but still maintaining the variation in hook size. Generally no extra lead was used.

We used yellowtail, small tailor, or mulies.

Mulloway can be finicky. Throw into a channel and if you have the facility on the reel used, strike drag or very low drag. Mulloway will pick the bait up, and inhale it. If you strike too early, you are lost.. Wait until you can feel a genuine drag on the line. ( I used to wait until I was actually losing line to the fish ) It sometimes feels like you have a big piece of weed hooked up.


Then hang on. We used 12kg line and light Ugly Sticks with overhead reels. Gave us quite a fight. Remember to keep your fingers out of the gill rakes on Mulloway. Very sharp, and can do you a fair mischief on the fingers.


Never thought much of Mulloway for eating. We used to call them 'neighbours 'fish.

Have fun.

ozscott
16th March 2016, 09:43 PM
Watch the worms in the bigger ones.

Cheers

cuppabillytea
16th March 2016, 09:58 PM
Thanks ADMIRAL. That reminds me. My mate only catched fish for sport. He doesn't eat fish at all.

LandyAndy
16th March 2016, 10:21 PM
The hard part you Andrew is catching the tailor first.:D:D:D:wasntme:

Mind you, I haven't tried targeting Jewfish...:o

Its coming Ron,you are a hard man:p:p:p:p:p.YOUR DEFENDER CHRISTENING FISHING TRIP,Ive got a list of people who are willing to be the first recovered by our OFFICIAL trip recovery vehicle operator:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool: :cool:
Jewfish is eastern tater stuff mate,Mulloway over here;););););)
Andrew

LandyAndy
16th March 2016, 10:48 PM
Watch the worms in the bigger ones.

Cheers

Normally its catch and release unless they are spent with the big ones.
When I was a young fella we used to head up to Carnarvon and clean up on the "schoolie mulloway" the smaller ones were a bit soapy,the bigger loverley.
Andrew

LandyAndy
16th March 2016, 10:51 PM
The salmon run has just started at Albany,will be chasing them too.Catch and release,not really into eating them,may keep one.
Andrew

LandyAndy
20th March 2016, 10:04 PM
Lots of rigs tied,ready to battle Mulloway,Salmon in several ways and King George Whiting.
All the gear is ready to throw in the D4,the bait in the bait freezer is ready to transfer to the 80lt Engel fridge/freezer along with refreshments:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

tailslide
20th March 2016, 10:08 PM
Enjoy your trip Andrew, let me know where you catch your King George whiting, they have been elusive to me
off the beach.

Chenz
21st March 2016, 03:20 PM
This is my go to rig for Mulloway as it is able to be simply moved to suit the size of the bait without re-rigging.

For strip baits like fillets or squid (can use live squid with this rig) I use 50lb Flurocarbon leader - about 1m if you are casting or 1.5 to 2m if you are dropping out of a boat. Running sinker dependent on depth and current. The smaller the better. Any weight when they pick up the bait can spook them.

2 hooks - bottom one 6/0 Mustad circle - top hook 6/0 Suicide or Hooldlum facing the other way just through the line.

This is the neat trick, get a rubber band and pass over the point of the top running hook then wrap around the shank of the hook till it is tight then back over the hook to stop from unwinding. This allows you to run the top hook up and down the line to keep the bait perfectly flat so it won't spin round and round in the current. it will stay there and not run down and bunch up your bait even in the fastest current.

The beauty of the circle hook at the bottom and the hoodlum at the top is the one that picks up the bait and swims off gets the hook in the side of the jaw. The ones that sit there and swallow it get the top hook in the top or bottom of the mouth when you strike.

If you are using a live squid - my preferred bait as it stops the pickers for a long time, is hook the squid with the bottom hook just into the tube where it meets the tentacles. the top hook in the very top of the tube. Mr. squid will swim live like this for hours - sometimes have to wait this long.

Another trick if you are using live yellowtail is get a sharp set of scissors and cut their tail right back. This way when old Mr Mulloway comes to look they swim and make a lot of vibrations but they don't go very fast. Hook them through he top and bottom jaw, that ay they swim with their head into the current.

Nothing like the sounds of that drag just starting to tick slowly before it screams off and you come up tight on a big Jewwie on the beach or out of a boat.

There was some comment about using wire traces. I only do this when the men in the grey coats turn up. Mulloway don't like wire very much - at least where I fish for them.

Couple of Mulloway caught using this rig out of Forster NSW
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/923/OqSUsZ.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnOqSUsZj)

LandyAndy
21st March 2016, 09:07 PM
Enjoy your trip Andrew, let me know where you catch your King George whiting, they have been elusive to me
off the beach.

Ron.
Ive caught them at Little Beach.You need to walk the beach to the rocks on the southern end,walk,er,climb them fish toward the cliff face,NORMALLY a safe area would be VERY WARY fishing there when there is an easterly swell,it normally comes from the west so not an issue..
Middleton Beach,close to the Emu Point channel but on the beach side.
Mutton Bird Beach.Below the lookout where the rocks are.Can be VERY BOGGY,you cant drive back towards the rocks very far.
Shelly Beach.
Gull Rock,either the Old Boiler rocks or take the track down to the beach just opposite the Boiler carpark,there is a reef right on the beach.Can be VERY BOGGY and crowded,its not a very big beach.
Yes VERY hard to get from the beach.Have got some thumpers out near the islands;););););)
Andrew

LandyAndy
28th March 2016, 09:39 PM
I hooked into some nice mulloway today,hooked 3,lost 3.There is a bridge and a pair of channel markers where I was fishing,they know where to head.The first 2 I lost on the second run.The third fish I didnt get a look in,he was just peeling the line off.
Definately mulloway,I knew to be pacient whilst they played with the live bait,then hold on.A young bloke came over to ask what fish I was trying to catch,telling me I was awesome.I told him,he said his dad thought they were sharks.He ran back to dad saying Mulloway dad:cool::cool::cool:
Will tie some more rigs and try again tommorow arvo.
Andrew

cuppabillytea
29th March 2016, 02:22 AM
If you're ever in Sydney Andy, there's a deep hole off the Western tip of Balls Head. The Jewies down there are so ravenous, you don't need a special rig to hook them, but you need a lot more talent than I've got to get them in the boat.