Please help us replace our much loved D3....

[Russrobe]

So that was that, probably one of the fastest write offs from ownership in history. Now i'm on the hunt for the next one, which is proving more difficult than ever.

The problem is, the D3 I had was that good it's proving difficult to replace. I do have some options though. They include:

1.)Buying a D3 from over east with a diesel for $30k with a bull bar and risking hitting another roo whilst crossing the Nullarbor....

2.)Buying a 2010 D4 with 190 000kms on 2.7l tdv6 for $35,000. Which i'll highly consider if it atleast has a bullbar.

3.)Waitiing for another mint condition HSE V8 4.4 to come up in Perth. Which could happen next week or could happen next year... By which time the money might have been spent elsewhere.

4.) Buying another HSE V8 from over east again risking another roo and having to pay for the fuel it's going to cost to drive over plus 3 days. Would be a good adventure though... Would also have to fit my own bull bar as can't seem to find any v8s with them mostly diesels.

After losing the D3 V8 I was convinced i'd buy a diesel this time round. Now though after researching the diesels on here again i've remembered why i didn't want one in the first place, maintenance.

Would the D4 2.7 have any maintenance advantages over the D3? The oil pump housing being fine for example???

Thanks

[Russrobe]

D4 has no bull bar:( Going to go have a look now anyway.

[AnD3rew]

So that was that, probably one of the fastest write offs from ownership in history. Now i'm on the hunt for the next one, which is proving more difficult than ever.


After losing the D3 V8 I was convinced i'd buy a diesel this time round. Now though after researching the diesels on here again i've remembered why i didn't want one in the first place, maintenance.

Would the D4 2.7 have any maintenance advantages over the D3? The oil pump housing being fine for example???

Thanks

There aren't really that many problems with the D3 Diesel, the oil pump housing is really the main one, but it is just the overall maintenance costs are a little higher than Petrol, and that won't change with D4 over the D3.

[Russrobe]

Think they misscalculated the price because now they want $39000 for that same d4... D3 it is, no diesels in Perth though.

[Narangga]

This one has been for sale for at least a month. Was $31K to start with. Offer a bit less and get the bullbar fitted before the drive home.

2007 Land Rover Discovery 3 HSE Auto 4x4 (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2007/SSE-AD-3871938/?Cr=47)

Should have the clock in the message centre too ;)

[Geedublya]

Discovery 4 V8, Rare but cheap for what you get. Direct injection 5 litre, 276KW 510 nm, better equipped than any D3 or D4 except maybe the XXV.

The D4 Dash and seats are miles better than the D3. Both the opposite lock and ARB bullbars fit.

Mine is at 160K kms and I've replaced a front wheel bearing and have a rear door with a sticky lock.

[~Rich~]

Ship one over, truck / train. I bought mine in Perth and had it shipped to Sydney. Cost $1000 7 yrs ago.

[Grentarc]

Ship one over, truck / train. I bought mine in Perth and had it shipped to Sydney. Cost $1000 7 yrs ago.

If you do that, here is (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-4-2010/SSE-AD-3872282/?Cr=0) one with some gear on it.

[LandyAndy]

If RRS suits size wise,they are readily available,you can even get a diesel V8 in them.
Personally I would hold out for a 2.7 D4.You can get decent off-road tyres for them as they will take a 17" rim and they are becoming cheaper to buy.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

This one has been for sale for at least a month. Was $31K to start with. Offer a bit less and get the bullbar fitted before the drive home.

2007 Land Rover Discovery 3 HSE Auto 4x4 (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2007/SSE-AD-3871938/?Cr=47)

Should have the clock in the message centre too ;)
Ah i did really like the look of this one. I like that it has lower kms.

Not too sure where to draw the line on high kms. I was thinking anything below 200k in a diesel and 150k in v8 petrol. In saying that that 3.0l D4 looks like a good buy.

Going to be tough to get anything home from QLD by the looks of things, being diagonally opposite to Perth! Sydney or Melbourne would be first preference.

Rich, was it difficult to tranfer the rego from W.A??

Should mention my original budget was $25k and was prepared to spend 30 on a diesel $35k would really need to be D4 with nothing to spend.

See what people mean about the seats though. They are great, even with 190 000 kms on them.

Russ

[Disco-tastic]

Hey russ

Heres a list of much cheaper V6 petrols. Yes its no v8 or HSE but at $18k its a lot of coin in your pocket.

http://carsales.mobi/cars/results?q=(((Service%3D%5BCarsales%5D%26(Make%3D%5 BLand%20Rover%5D%26(Model%3D%5BDiscovery%204%5D%7C (Model%3D%5BDiscovery%203%5D%26(Badge%3D%5BHSE%5D% 7CBadge%3D%5BSE%5D)))))%26Year%3Drange%5B2007..%5D )%26Odometer%3Drange%5B..160000%5D)&sort=~~Price

Cheers

Dan

[LandyAndy]

A remap will get a 2.7 performing like a V8,dont think they are underpowered as stock.
I have the "baby" late D4 3.0 TDV6,it goes really well.
The engine designations will do your head in,they did when I was buying.
Early D4s 2.7 6speed is a TDV6
Early D4s 3.0 6speed is a SDV6
Late D4 3.O lower output is a TDV6
Late D4 3.0 high output is a SDV6.

WARNING,DONT DRIVE AN 8 SPEED.Your bank account wont like it,you will love it.They are totaly different vehicles;);););););) Love mine.
Welcome to come down to Williams and have a steer,last bloke who did that bought one,didnt they Eddy(even though its a 6 speeder):p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew

[Meken]

Ah i did really like the look of this one. I like that it has lower kms.

Not too sure where to draw the line on high kms. I was thinking anything below 200k in a diesel and 150k in v8 petrol. In saying that that 3.0l D4 looks like a good buy.

Going to be tough to get anything home from QLD by the looks of things, being diagonally opposite to Perth! Sydney or Melbourne would be first preference.

Rich, was it difficult to tranfer the rego from W.A??

Should mention my original budget was $25k and was prepared to spend 30 on a diesel $35k would really need to be D4 with nothing to spend.

See what people mean about the seats though. They are great, even with 190 000 kms on them.

Russ


I'll drive it over for you if you pay for the plane ticket back to QLD ;-D

[~Rich~]

Ah i did really like the look of this one. I like that it has lower kms.

Not too sure where to draw the line on high kms. I was thinking anything below 200k in a diesel and 150k in v8 petrol. In saying that that 3.0l D4 looks like a good buy.

Going to be tough to get anything home from QLD by the looks of things, being diagonally opposite to Perth! Sydney or Melbourne would be first preference.

Rich, was it difficult to tranfer the rego from W.A??

Should mention my original budget was $25k and was prepared to spend 30 on a diesel $35k would really need to be D4 with nothing to spend.

See what people mean about the seats though. They are great, even with 190 000 kms on them.

Russ



It was unregistered in WA before it was shipped, in NSW I had to get a blue slip before I could register it. That was easy.

[Narangga]

Ah i did really like the look of this one. I like that it has lower kms.

Not too sure where to draw the line on high kms. I was thinking anything below 200k in a diesel and 150k in v8 petrol. In saying that that 3.0l D4 looks like a good buy.

Going to be tough to get anything home from QLD by the looks of things, being diagonally opposite to Perth! Sydney or Melbourne would be first preference.

Rich, was it difficult to tranfer the rego from W.A??

Should mention my original budget was $25k and was prepared to spend 30 on a diesel $35k would really need to be D4 with nothing to spend.

See what people mean about the seats though. They are great, even with 190 000 kms on them.

Russ

You have to balance budget against what kms it has done and what servicing it has had - including the transmission. Each vehicle will be different unfortunately. We have had our vehilces independently inspected prior to paying for them.

Each state is different but if the vejhicle is the one the paperwork says it is then it is a compliance inspection (or that's the name in the NT) to check VIN, Engine number etc. and pay for the WA rego. Only time I've had trouble was with the D3 because the previous owner (in WA!) had sent the paperwork off to the WA rego people and when I went to register it in the NT I didn't have paperwork to prove I'd bought it (WA rego papers signed over/bill of sale/tax invoice).:mad:

Rich's price from 7 years ago has about doubled by now from what I know.

[Celtoid]

A remap will get a 2.7 performing like a V8,dont think they are underpowered as stock.
I have the "baby" late D4 3.0 TDV6,it goes really well.
The engine designations will do your head in,they did when I was buying.
Early D4s 2.7 6speed is a TDV6
Early D4s 3.0 6speed is a SDV6
Late D4 3.O lower output is a TDV6
Late D4 3.0 high output is a SDV6.

WARNING,DONT DRIVE AN 8 SPEED.Your bank account wont like it,you will love it.They are totaly different vehicles;);););););) Love mine.
Welcome to come down to Williams and have a steer,last bloke who did that bought one,didnt they Eddy(even though its a 6 speeder):p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew


Nope .... still doing your head in Andy .... 2009 build MY10 were badged 3.0 TDV6 SE (and I imagine HSE). This was the only 3L twin turbo available in AUS at the time. It had the higher output of 180/600.


I know this 'cause I have a photo of those badges .... that were connected to a car ..... that used to be mine ..... my first love ..... :BigCry: LOL

[Graeme]

If you do that, here is (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-4-2010/SSE-AD-3872282/?Cr=0) one with some gear on it.
Why does it appear to be fitted with LR 18" rims, both in spoke pattern and tyre sidewall height?

[Grentarc]

Why does it appear to be fitted with LR 18" rims, both in spoke pattern and tyre sidewall height?

Because when I run the registration to get the VIN, then run the VIN through Topix, it is a 2.7 TDV6...

[Disco-tastic]

I was wondering about that too...

Cheers

Dan

[Russrobe]

Not so cheap for a high km tdv6 then i suppose. 😦

[BMKal]

You should still be able to get reasonable transport cost if you send one across by truck. I put my old D2 on transport about two hours ago - Kalgoorlie to Adelaide ~ $500. ;)

If you bring one into WA, you will need to get a roadworthy inspection done on it before it can be registered. Shouldn't be too difficult with something like a D3/D4. Main thing they will look for is oil leaks. With second hand vehicles, they check to see that it has an immobilizer fitted - but that's standard with the Disco anyway, so no issue there.

My son brought his RX7 across from Sydney a while back - he had it imported through Sydney, and it had 6 months NSW rego put on it over there. Once it arrived here, he had to get a roadworthy. They pinged it for "blue" headlights (easy fix - changed the globes) - and it was too low (you couldn't roll a coke can underneath it). None of the local inspection places in Kalgoorlie would pass it because of height - but he took it to an "inspection place" in a small town not too far from here, where it was passed even though they couldn't actually drive it onto the vehicle hoist to look underneath it. :angel:

[Russrobe]

$500! Which trucking company was this BMKal?

[PeterOZ]

Not sure there is anything out there that can come close to a D3/4 that would tempt me to get rid of my D3.


I'd love a new D4 or very low km one but not keen on the $$$


Have invested a lot of hard earned $$ into the D3 last 8 months, put a territory low km (12,000) 2.7 into it, new alternator, lower control arms, 2 CVs (so far) and new brakes, tyres. It's done 208,000 km so expect to invest money at this stage of it's life though not the engine which was due to an over zealous gorilla and torque wronech on the timing belt tensioner bolt. yes no redress on that one :censored:


the body and interior are still very good nick and I love the vehicle so plan on keep it for as long as I can. Budget along the way for a trans and possible a diff or transfer case rebuild. Will deal with those when and if they occur.


Air struts are still original and will replace them muself at some stage though they are still doing the job so will leave them be for a bit. Maybe this time next year I will think about those.


While I don't need the 4WD capability any more I do need the storage and flat cargo bay and towing the D3 offers. Not much out there to get excited by so D3 it is for some time for me.


Just my 2 bobs worth. :D

[Russrobe]

I think i'm leaning towards another D3 too Pete. As much as the D4's are better in ways, i'm not at the stage where I can happily spend $40k on a car. Besides this is still my first 4x4.

Getting the feeling if a pick up a high km D4 I'm more likely to have to spend more money on top of that on maintenance due to 200 000 km mark.... Money which I won't have from maxing out my budget.

[BMKal]

$500! Which trucking company was this BMKal?

I'm not 100% sure as I didn't make the booking - it was booked by the person we have sold the D2 to in Adelaide.

I dropped it off at Goldfields Tilt Tray & Towing's yard in West Kal. The bloke there mentioned "Simon Transport" so I assume that this is who is taking it to Adelaide.

[Disco-tastic]

Here's a nice looking V8 HSE in Vic for $24k.

http://carsales.mobi/cars/details/2006-Land-Rover-Discovery-3-HSE-No-Series/SSE-AD-3947190

Cheers

Dan

[NavyDiver]

Buy your used Land Rover from the experts - Ritter Australia! - Ritter Australia (http://ritter.com.au/buy-your-used-land-rover-from-the-experts-ritter-australia/)

One or two at the nice people who service my D3. If you buy one please let me drive it over for you if you don't take that very cool drive yourself.:D Discos just love those miles and the trip is one of the nicest drives in the world imo. 6 times for me sadly not yet in my Disco. The 2005 Se is the same as mine but its a baby in miles compared to mine but petrol. The 2006 RR sports is a disco just missing the 3rd row:wasntme:

[Narangga]

This could be in good nick too

2006 Land Rover Discovery 3 HSE Auto 4x4 (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2006/SSE-AD-3767825/?Cr=0)

[Russrobe]

These ads are depressing. Not because they're bad cars, but it makes me realize how good value the one I had was. I paid $23000 for my HSE 4.4V8 with 150 000 kms..... I'm really finding it tough to even go look at a 4.0 v6 petrol here in Perth with is an SE AND $25000.
Not to mention every service had been done by the dealer...

[Russrobe]

This one's more like it. Going to e-mail him now


This could be in good nick too

2006 Land Rover Discovery 3 HSE Auto 4x4

[Russrobe]

This could be in good nick too

2006 Land Rover Discovery 3 HSE Auto 4x4 (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2006/SSE-AD-3767825/?Cr=0)

Anyone have any experience with the V8 on gas?

[scomac]

Hey Russrobe found this!

Land Rover Discovery 3 | Auto Body parts | Gumtree Australia Melville Area - Myaree | 1109994396 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/myaree/auto-body-parts/land-rover-discovery-3/1109994396)

Cheers
Scott.

[LandyAndy]

If you are buying a D3 I would grab that.My colour matched OL winch bar was $3000 fitted;);););););)
Andrew

[Russrobe]

If you are buying a D3 I would grab that.My colour matched OL winch bar was $3000 fitted;);););););)
Andrew
Is that a winch bar??? Can't see any cutouts for a winch but even without that's a steal!

[BMKal]

Is that a winch bar??? Can't see any cutouts for a winch but even without that's a steal!

That one's not a winch bar - but is definitely a steal at that price. It wouldn't be difficult to convert it into a winch bar if you wanted to. I have the winch bar version of that same ARB bar on mine.

[Narangga]

Hey Russrobe found this!

Land Rover Discovery 3 | Auto Body parts | Gumtree Australia Melville Area - Myaree | 1109994396 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/myaree/auto-body-parts/land-rover-discovery-3/1109994396)

Cheers
Scott.

Both ARB & OL were near $2,300 for the D3 about 6 months ago. Darwin fitted price.

[LRD414]

Have you seen this Russ:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/vehicles-sale/234746-landrover-d3-hse-2008my-2-7tdv6-diesel-melbourne-narre-warren.html
High k's but lots of extras.

Scott

[LandyAndy]

I was just reading that add and almost linked it.
The extras are worth some money,alot of ks on it for the asking price,then one has to retrieve it from over there.
Andrew

[AnD3rew]

Wow, assuming all the gear is in good nick there is a lot in there, but man that's a lot of kms. I would be worried I just spent all that miney and then find I need a new tranny or engine.

I would almost be tempted to buy that one, and then buy another lower km one, transfer all the gear and then resell the 300k one. But that's a lot of fussing around.

[Russrobe]

Wow, assuming all the gear is in good nick there is a lot in there, but man that's a lot of kms. I would be worried I just spent all that miney and then find I need a new tranny or engine.

I would almost be tempted to buy that one, and then buy another lower km one, transfer all the gear and then resell the 300k one. But that's a lot of fussing around.

Penny for your thoughts on this one.

2006 Land Rover Discovery 3 Turbo Diesel | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Fremantle Area - Fremantle | 1110567047 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle/cars-vans-utes/2006-land-rover-discovery-3-turbo-diesel/1110567047)

Opposite end of the spectrum, has just put a new diesel in it. Just going now to have a look and see how many km's are on the rest of the vehicle.

Shame i don't have much room at the front of my place(duplex) or i'd buy this and mine back and fix mine as a project.

Question, has anyone tried putting D4 seats into a D3? As they are starting to get tired on the ones i've been looking at and I did a bit of research on re-upholstering leather and it's not cheap!

Thanks for the help, i've just tried to extend my trip to cairns next month so I can drop by Sydney on the way home and inspect/buy one from there(There's 3x HSE's to choose from) but can't get the extra time off... So it's W.A only for now....

[cripesamighty]

It has Morawa plates on it so maybe it's a country car with country Km's. Good luck with your searching.

[ramblingboy42]

Following this thread and doing a little looking myself out of interest.

I'm amazed at the mileage on some of the D4s.

Have they been used as taxis?

[Narangga]

Penny for your thoughts on this one.

2006 Land Rover Discovery 3 Turbo Diesel | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Fremantle Area - Fremantle | 1110567047 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle/cars-vans-utes/2006-land-rover-discovery-3-turbo-diesel/1110567047)

Opposite end of the spectrum, has just put a new diesel in it. Just going now to have a look and see how many km's are on the rest of the vehicle.

Shame i don't have much room at the front of my place(duplex) or i'd buy this and mine back and fix mine as a project.

Question, has anyone tried putting D4 seats into a D3? As they are starting to get tired on the ones i've been looking at and I did a bit of research on re-upholstering leather and it's not cheap!

Thanks for the help, i've just tried to extend my trip to cairns next month so I can drop by Sydney on the way home and inspect/buy one from there(There's 3x HSE's to choose from) but can't get the extra time off... So it's W.A only for now....

I bought mine with a similar history - details here

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/224901-swapping-sub-forums.html

Obviously mine is an HSE - everyone mentions the memory seats but it is the Captain's Chair armrest that wins it for me ;)

$700 sheepskin seat covers are an easy addition instead of swapping seats too.

If you want to ask anything about my experience then feel free to ask.

[Russrobe]

Not bad that one, pretty good value, I thought. And with the new engine in it you could jump in and head north with confidence.

Don't think I can get anything but a HSE though now that i've owned one, it's just not the same.... If I hadn't owned one before, I probably wouldn't care about the extras. Once you've had a taste...

As Andy said, it's going to take a perfect D3 HSE with a good price tag to justify the $1400 shipping plus over the pits($500-$1000ish) plus flights($400-$700). Best case scenario add $2300 worst case add $3100.

[Narangga]

Don't think I can get anything but a HSE though now that i've owned one, it's just not the same.... If I hadn't owned one before, I probably wouldn't care about the extras. Once you've had a taste...

I know, but I dare not say it out loud while my wife is listening ;)

[LandyAndy]

Russ.
Another option.
Visit the 2 Land Rover dealers,use the salesmen.Tell them what you are looking for,ask them if if one comes in that they cant close the deal on due to trade in valuation pass your number onto the owner.Any salesman worth his salt would take you on.They are dealing with wholesalers to take the trades,so cant offer much,they dont stock D3's;););););)You may only need to beat the dealer by a small amount to get a vehicle.Worth a shot.
Andrew

[rar110]

No terrain response, but it's a Range Rover ...

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Vogue-2005/SSE-AD-3838593

[LandyAndy]

Seen this one:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
04/05, Land Rover, Discovery 3, Wagon - Pickles Auctions Australia (http://www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/-/details/CP-04-05--Land-Rover--Discovery-3--Wagon/2002753821)
Didnt take long to come up for sale.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Seen this one:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
04/05, Land Rover, Discovery 3, Wagon - Pickles Auctions Australia (http://www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/-/details/CP-04-05--Land-Rover--Discovery-3--Wagon/2002753821)
Didnt take long to come up for sale.
Andrew
That's the one! Haha I might go have a look next week. They could have atleast taken some decent photos.

Considering bypassing past Sydney next month on the way home from Cairns. Going to cost us $400 but there's 3 potential HSE's there! Unfortunately looks like someone veat me to the best one yesterday...

[Narangga]

Would going via Brisbane be an option?

2007 Land Rover Discovery 3 HSE Auto 4x4 (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2007/SSE-AD-3983948/?Cr=5)

[LandyAndy]

That's the one! Haha I might go have a look next week. They could have atleast taken some decent photos.

Considering bypassing past Sydney next month on the way home from Cairns. Going to cost us $400 but there's 3 potential HSE's there! Unfortunately looks like someone veat me to the best one yesterday...

You never know,you may buy it at a bargain price.I would get hold of prices for replacement airbags and engine to help with the sums.Triumph Rover Spares in SA are the main wreckers in aust.
Talk to somebody like DazzaTD5 on here and ask how much to fit.

I think my Bro will be looking at it,he missed out on one in similar condition a few weeks back.He is chasing a diesel,and I pointed out its likely to need a mojo.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

You never know,you may buy it at a bargain price.I would get hold of prices for replacement airbags and engine to help with the sums.Triumph Rover Spares in SA are the main wreckers in aust.
Talk to somebody like DazzaTD5 on here and ask how much to fit.

I think my Bro will be looking at it,he missed out on one in similar condition a few weeks back.He is chasing a diesel,and I pointed out its likely to need a mojo.
Andrew
Yeah like you say the motor is the killer. You remember from Gone In 60 Seconds how the 67 stang stalls and he's yelling at it start, start? It was one of those scenarios then it started again and was good so who knows. Just depends what people are willing to pay for it really.

[LandyAndy]

A secondhand motor wont be cheap,as there in no equal replacement.The TDV6 owners who have put Territory motors in will tell you how expensive the Land Rover branded version is compared to a Territory version.
Just hope nobody tells the wreckers they are the same motor,prices will skyrocket!!!
Andrew

[Russrobe]

A secondhand motor wont be cheap,as there in no equal replacement.The TDV6 owners who have put Territory motors in will tell you how expensive the Land Rover branded version is compared to a Territory version.
Just hope nobody tells the wreckers they are the same motor,prices will skyrocket!!!
Andrew
Yup doubt I will get much change out of $20k as it would be about $4k just in labour to swap. That's what's put me off the D3 on here in the marketplace. Sure it's exactly what I want but with 300k kms I'd need to factor in an engine swap at some stage.

I reckon it's overpriced. No offence to the guy but even if he's spend 20 grand on mods which he has. Does he expect to get nearly all of that bacķ?? Because a disco hse stock with 300k would only be worth $20k...

[LandyAndy]

If you are contacting dealers,dont forget Albany Land Rover,there are heaps of them in Albany.Unfortunately they are a multi car franchise and do stock older vehicles.The 2 in Perth only stock near new secondhand.
I think most of their trades go to that huge wholesaler in Bentley,they carry a big range of Land Rovers,always in very good nick but up there in price.
Used Land Rover Cars For Sale in Perth - Buy Near New Second Hand (http://www.westsideauto.com.au/vehicles/list/'make=Land+Rover&model=&retailfrom=&retailto=&yearfrom=&yearto=&itemfreetext=&submit=)
Andrew

[Russrobe]

May have just bought a D4....

[Russrobe]

Pics to come

[cripesamighty]

Well done! Nice to see a good result in the end.

[Russrobe]

2010 190k kms tdv6 $35000. I was thinking, why spend $30k on a D3 when I can spend $35k and get a D4 which will be a better base for mods in the long run... Well hopefully anyway.

Seems to have some extras but not sure what's standard on these as i never looked into them until today! Does have Xenon headlights for example...

[Grentarc]

Looks like a nice clean slate - is it the 2.7 TDV6 or the 3.0 TDV6?

[Russrobe]

2.7 glen.. was lucky enough to find one of these for Perth prices...

[Narangga]

2010 190k kms tdv6 $35000. I was thinking, why spend $30k on a D3 when I can spend $35k and get a D4 which will be a better base for mods in the long run... Well hopefully anyway.

Seems to have some extras but not sure what's standard on these as i never looked into them until today! Does have Xenon headlights for example...

Good one Russ. Were you able to get it's service history?

[Russrobe]

Only the book which every service was done by barbagallo. Will give them a call Tuesday though!

[Narangga]

Only the book which every service was done by barbagallo. Will give them a call Tuesday though!

Would be good to check that the transmission has had a service too. How's the cheeks? :D :D :D Are they sore yet? ;)

[LandyAndy]

AWESOME DUDE!!!!!
Will be interesting to hear the comparison between new and old once you have steered it for a month.
ENJOY
Andrew

[Russrobe]

It's great Andy I think what I lost from the HsE model has equalized with what I've gain in a base D4 like nicer seats, 5 years newer and start button (minor but always wanted one) diesel vs. V8 petrol not much difference power wise... Like the new "angel eyes" headlights...

[LandyAndy]

Will be interesting how you find the visits to the servo,considering you feel you havent lost alot of mojo:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Might get the transfer case serviced too. Seems to be oozing some oil

[BMKal]

Might get the transfer case serviced too. Seems to be oozing some oil

Can be an expensive exercise. Mine has been showing a fine oil "mist" for a few months now - is getting fixed at Barbagallo on Tuesday. :censored:

They didn't have the parts needed in stock when the car was serviced a couple of weeks ago - had to get them in from the east. Apparently will require them having the car for another full day.

[Russrobe]

Hmm do you think it could be causing a slight vibration at 1600rpm? I had a quick look a the uni joints and can't see any obvious signs of damage. Kinda feels like it needs to drop a gear..... Only just noticed it on a long drive.

[Russrobe]

Probably sounds like a bought a lemon at this point lol but ither than those 2 things it's in mint condition. Never been offroad by the looks of underneath. Does have a redarc brake controller though so someone's been towing. Don't really mind though it's what the diesels made for i suppose.

[LRD414]

Probably sounds like a bought a lemon at this point

That's annoying but I wouldn't say lemon. Other than transfer case, the worse case is probably a transmission rebuild. Hopefully not but there's plenty of info on that on here. Could be in the VIN range for the soft bushes like Graeme. Or flushing might fix it. And this could have happened to the D3 too.

Scott

[Russrobe]

I did pay for a warranty with $5000 max per claim unlimited claims.....

[rar110]

Congrats. The D4 is a nice vehicle. Is it the 2.7 or 3.0?

A 2010 D4 is in the range of the lead free stator bush transmission issue. Graeme is the authority on this. It might be a good idea to check whether a transmission service was done. If not, have a look at the D3/4 transmission service thread, and consider doing it soon.

Also hopefully the 160,000km timing belt change was done. If so, that's a big expense out of the way for a long time.

[Russrobe]

2.7 rar... Seems strange if it's transmission as it shifts perfectly smoothly and i know they can shift a bit harsh when they're getting long in the tooth. This in it's most extreme case, up a slope 1600rpm low throttle could be described as axle tram feeling. Not felt through steering at all.

[Russrobe]

Most mild feels like bumpy road

[Russrobe]

Ok just read the thread and was completely wrong, transmission service this week it is!

[Russrobe]

Ah i see the problem now... Don't want to waste your money on servicing it and find out it needs a rebuild.... Trying to see if my chassis # is in the range but I can only find the Vin# which starts with Sal....

[Grentarc]

Ah i see the problem now... Don't want to waste your money on servicing it and find out it needs a rebuild.... Trying to see if my chassis # is in the range but I can only find the Vin# which starts with Sal....

That's the number, just ignore the first 9 characters of your VIN, so will be before SALxxxxxxBA588607

[Russrobe]

Ahh that makes sense. I was looking for the 9 characters somewhere

[Russrobe]

Yep ours will need the bushes doing.. its AA548...

[Russrobe]

Quick update: Took the car back to where I purchased it and they've diagnosed the problem as lower control arm bushes and have ordered new arms.

Also apologized for missing the problem in the pre-inspection. Sigh of relief there.....

[LandyAndy]

Quick update: Took the car back to where I purchased it and they've diagnosed the problem as lower control arm bushes and have ordered new arms.

Also apologized for missing the problem in the pre-inspection. Sigh of relief there.....

Thats a bonus,where did you buy it????
Andrew

[Russrobe]

It shakes through the steering now too Andy so think they're on the money. EasyAuto123. They're up the road from me, I got the D3 from there too.

Also dropped by Barbagallo and although they didn't seem to want to print off invoices for me they said they 160k services was done as per it should have... Also mentioned something about camshafts being done=O Anyway the turbo should have been done...=D

[Russrobe]

Definitely mentioned timing chain. Spotted an aulro wheel cover there too Bmkal plates...

[LandyAndy]

Definitely mentioned timing chain. Spotted an aulro wheel cover there too Bmkal plates...

Watch that bloke:p:p:p:p:p:p
Great to here your seller is looking after you.No timing chain on these,there is a timing belt that must be replaced.
Register with TOPIX,you may be able to see your service records online,or apply to see them as there is no longer service books with the D4;););););)
Andrew

[Narangga]

Definitely mentioned timing chain.

Meaning???

With the 2.7 it will be timing belt (done by 168,000 km or 7 years) so I assume you have been told that the timing belt had been replaced as per the service schedule.

[Russrobe]

Yep she was listing what had been replaced/serviced at 160k km service. Was just good to check they'd paid to get done everything that was needed.

[Narangga]

Only need to check out the transmission servicing now.

[BMKal]

Spotted an aulro wheel cover there too Bmkal plates...


Watch that bloke:p:p:p:p:p:p

Andrew

Yeah - I've heard a rumour that he's a bit of a crazy old bar steward. :eek::eek::eek:

[Russrobe]

Yeah - I've heard a rumour that he's a bit of a crazy old bar steward. :eek::eek::eek:

Bahaha, you must have picked yours up late as I was there after 4!
Don't think they could cram any more Discovery's into such a small place if they tried...


I tried TOPIx Andy and there didn't seem to be anything filled out service wise.
All the services are still showing as outstanding campaigns so don't think it's been updated.

Did find out I don't have the e-diff goodies though:( but ohwel


Transmission 6-Speed Automatic 6HP26
Drive RHD
Series DISCOVERY 2.7 V6 LION DIESEL
Engine 2.7L Diesel
CAB style 5 DOOR
Colour IPANEMA SAND
Trim LESS INTERIOR VENEER PACK

Cursing that nutmeg carpet already. Can't find any rubber floor mats yet...

Yep just the transmission left. At least if that goes the warranty company can't say it's a "Perishable Component".... Like they did with the control arm bushes.

[Russrobe]

Update:

Unfortunately our car's back at the dealer as it still has the vibration problem. Does anyone else own the 6speed zf within the advised vin range for issues?

Ours vibrates in all gears but mostly when under load at slight acceleration(slope for example).

I also noticed the other day the rpm tacho sits there bouncing between 1400-1500 rpm whilst travelling at 76km/h.
At worst it feels like axle tram still and most mild would be the ripple strip others say..

Just wondering if it needs a complete rebuild or not as i'm assuming they will have to try the oil change to begin with. Will this mask the problem temporarily?

Not a huge issue, unless it happens to play up in a few months time while we're on a road trip...

Thanks

P.S have read the entire FAQ zf trans thread but can;t find anything about car's in the vin range.... mostly oil/service prices..

[LandyAndy]

There was a tranny additive some were recomending,I dont recall what it was,perhaps soembody else could post a link to it.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Would you say that would just postpone an inevitable failure though?

[LandyAndy]

I too feel the same,there was some pretty good discussion on it.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Found the thread,well worth the read.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/171728-dr-tranny-auto-shudder-fix.html
Andrew

[Russrobe]

After reading that i'd be spewing if they put either or both products in. And i'd be hoping it was going to cause transmission failure asap.

Mostly because it seems like a temporary fix to get an extra 30-40k kms out of it.
Which is fine if you haven't just bought it...

[Disco-tastic]

If it solves the problem, at least you know what the problem is.

Ask for a full written record of what they have done, for your service history. That should include any additives.

It sucks that you're having troubles. Hopefully you'll get it sorted soon.

Cheers


Dan

[Grentarc]

From what I have read, a fluid change and flush will make problems worse. My D4 has had the box rebuilt by ZF and is such a dream to drive. I never experienced it before the rebuild though.

[LandyAndy]

How "friendly" are you with the caryard???
Thinking outside the square,see if they would be up for getting the gearbox out of this.They have insurance to cover repairs,it may be better than getting a part restored or other secondhand box dropped in,I doubt you would find such a low km box at the wreckers.If I recall they can opt to fit secondhand parts if it suits them.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/marketplace-alerts/235330-d4-wrecking-perth.html
Andrew

[Grentarc]

You want the box to be rebuilt preferably, as you don't want them to stick one in that will develop the same issue. You could hope that they get one of the later ones but I would be asking for the box to be sent to ZF

[Russrobe]

Yep agree a rebuild would be the best for me. Only problem with that one on gumtree is it's a 2010 too. So could end up with the exact same problem. Would have to check the VIN.

$6k for the engine though:O Bargain.

It's basically AHG and they're very helpful. I'm just thinking ahead really..

[LandyAndy]

I have seen a ZF automotive transmission depot in Perth when I got geographicaly estranged,from memory it was in Malaga.You head north from the roundabout where JB HiFi etc are.Im sure a google will help your cause here.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

If its an AHG yard you should be in reasonable hands.They look after their customers a bit better that the ordinary car yard:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[LRD414]

Does anyone else own the 6speed zf within the advised vin range for issues?
Just wondering if it needs a complete rebuild or not as i'm assuming they will have to try the oil change to begin with. Will this mask the problem temporarily?
P.S have read the entire FAQ zf trans thread but can;t find anything about car's in the vin range.... mostly oil/service prices..
This thread has a bit of info:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/222394-transmission-fault-message.html

And this Disco3 thread is useful:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - 6-sp auto gearbox - flushes, faults, failure and 'finking' (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic108824.html)

Cheers,
Scott

[Plane Fixer]

I was getting a rough change from 1-2, especially from cold. My local guy had the mechatronic unit repaired and refilled it with another fluid ( not LF6). The performance was OK but went downhill as it was snatching in stop start traffic, flaring after a longer stop at traffic lights, and also sometimes flaring in a heavier footed takeoff. I thought I was up for a new box. I also felt every gear change.
I had it serviced again and specified the genuine ZF fluid. It has completely transformed the box as it is again syrupy smooth.
From my experience now I will only use genuine fluid as the others are simply not worth it for the longevity of the box.

[Russrobe]

Should mention ours has been towing something large enough to warrant a brake controller. Plus the 190k kms... Not sure how much life is left in it...

[Russrobe]

This thread has a bit of info:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/222394-transmission-fault-message.html

And this Disco3 thread is useful:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - 6-sp auto gearbox - flushes, faults, failure and 'finking' (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic108824.html)

Cheers,
Scott

As Graeme said in that first thread, if there's no fault warnings, it could just need a oil change.

At such high km's though and in the range for fast wearing stator bushes i'd doubt it. Either way if it was my money being spent i'd pay for a rebuild, rather than risk a $800 oil change with no result...

It drives so badly at times, I can't believe there's no fault coming up!

[LandyAndy]

Does Sport change it when its playing up???
Worth a try.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Does Sport change it when its playing up???
Worth a try.
Andrew

It did the first few days after i picked it up Andy. Then it got so bad it didn't feel like it made any difference. In the last day before i took it back, it was so bad we'd stopped driving it because it's that annoying... Watching the rpm bounce between 1400-1500rpm while at a constant speed was weird.. Brought me back to an old 1980's falcon I drove once...

Also something i've never heard anybody else mention actually....

[LandyAndy]

Sounds like a torque convertor locking and unlocking.
We need a visit from JC.See what I can do.
Andrew

[justinc]

That 100rpm flutter is a symptom of low line pressure/ torque converter phasing in and out of lock. At those km i would be shelling out for a rebuild. Also bear in mind the mechatronics need to be matched to the trans ecu so you can't just fit a used box and drive off into the sunset...

Jc

[LandyAndy]

That 100rpm flutter is a symptom of low line pressure/ torque converter phasing in and out of lock. At those km i would be shelling out for a rebuild. Also bear in mind the mechatronics need to be matched to the trans ecu so you can't just fit a used box and drive off into the sunset...

Jc

Justin,you are awesome.
Thanks
Andrew

[Russrobe]

That 100rpm flutter is a symptom of low line pressure/ torque converter phasing in and out of lock. At those km i would be shelling out for a rebuild. Also bear in mind the mechatronics need to be matched to the trans ecu so you can't just fit a used box and drive off into the sunset...

Jc

Sweet, at least I know what it is now. Thanks!

[connormotorsport]

Yep torque converter 100% , my wife's sport had the exact same issue. Small rpm fluctuation on acceleration and felt like a driveline vibration. Would only do it under slight load to mid load. Otherwise was no existent.
Zf actually sell replacement torque converters it's actually a pretty common fault. Mine started doing it at 220,000. Did that and serviced the box and off she went without any further issues.

[jonesy63]

Plus the 190k kms... Not sure how much life is left in it...

Ahem... still 50,000km to go until the first ATF change - according to LR! :mad:

[Russrobe]

Well I have a new transfer case that doesn't leak now. That's a bonus. Still has vibration and revs bouncing though slightly less often so far.
Did try mention the transmission a few times.. Will see how I go but i'd say it will have to go back next week.

Suppose when you see oil oozing from somewhere it's worth a try.

[Russrobe]

Ahem... still 50,000km to go until the first ATF change - according to LR! :mad:

That has it's bonuses if you're trying to claim on one of those warranty companies though I reckon Jonesy! Can't blame you for lack of maintenance!

[justinc]

Well I have a new transfer case that doesn't leak now. That's a bonus. Still has vibration and revs bouncing though slightly less often so far.
Did try mention the transmission a few times.. Will see how I go but i'd say it will have to go back next week.

Suppose when you see oil oozing from somewhere it's worth a try.

Seriously???? The transmission issue wasn't addressed at the same time?? 😯😠

Jc

[Russrobe]

Seriously???? The transmission issue wasn't addressed at the same time?? 😯😠

Jc
Yeah... Think they were hoping it would fix the problem...

[justinc]

Yeah... Think they were hoping it would fix the problem...

Never in the world of transmitting drive from an engine to the surface of the road will a t4ansfer case cause those symptoms. By not addressing the transmission issue at the same time as the transfer leak they have created a lot more work for themselves and wasted everybodies time...😠😠😠

Jc

[Russrobe]

Never in the world of transmitting drive from an engine to the surface of the road will a t4ansfer case cause those symptoms. By not addressing the transmission issue at the same time as the transfer leak they have created a lot more work for themselves and wasted everybodies time...😠😠😠

Jc
Eek not good for them then.

[Russrobe]

You know what will happen next. They've already said they will flush the trans if im still not happy. Which most likely still isn't going to help as like you said it needs a recon...

[Grentarc]

For the money they are spending trying to avoid a rebuild, they could have paid for one. On the plus side, you have a nice non-leaking transfer case!

[Russrobe]

To put an end to this thread I thought i'd update.

Our D4 will finally have a fully rebuilt transmission and torque converter by the end of the week! Wangara Transmissions started stripping it down last Monday and reckon it will be all back together by around Wed/Thur, they were just waiting for some parts for the converter on Friday=).

Driving away with:

New lower control arms
New Transfer Case
Replaced diff fluid
Rebuilt Transmission and Torque Converter

After approximately 4 weeks in the shop since we bought it in May we can't wait jump in and drive into the sunset(Once we fit a bull bar of course;))

[LandyAndy]

My Bro took a 2008 TDV6 HSE for a test drive the other day.He rekons it had the same tranny issue.I told him to look out for it,he has a tdi D1 auto that had a stuffed tranny so knew the feeling of the locking/unlocking TC to look for,tells me the manual says to keep the tdi in 3 not D below 70kmh to prevent it.
Anyhow he said the HSE had plenty of issues,airbag fault,original juke box on the back seat replaced with aftermarket unit,178000ks so belts needing replacement.Its in a yard on Albany hwy Kenwick,albany numberplates.One to avoid.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Andy if they fix it properly before he buys it he gets a bargain. I don't regret ours at all. If anything I'm better off than my budget was ever going to get me for a D4.

[LandyAndy]

Im trying to talk him into digging into his pockets a bit deeper,I know of a D4 3.0 HSE coming up for sale:):):):):):)
Andrew

[Russrobe]

I retract my opinion on his. Sounds like too much drama, after all i went through all this for one problem. That HSE has 2 known already. And sounds like a dodgy last owner whereas i knew ours was used as a family car with a baby seat..