Do not like! Side effects of owning Defender

[El Rey]

1. The fruit bats in a nearby tree just love bombing the Defender with their poop. I've had other cars parked in the driveway and they've been fine, but for some reason (size? shape?) they leave the 110 covered in droppings most nights. I got a cover to put on, and it's now getting covered in poo too.

2. The impression (or reality) that people are tailgating me more. Almost as if they make an assumption that I'm going to trundle along because of what I'm driving - so even when I'm going at the speed limit in the left lane I get people coming up on me. One person the other day overtook in a frustrated manner, and pulled back into my lane right in front of me on Coronation Drive just as the traffic ahead all braked. I had to swerve out of that lane or rear end them. Luckily there was no-one next to me, because I didn't have time to check.

[ATH]

I don't suffer from fruit bats over indulging on fruit but do suffer the same as you from fruit loops on the road. So many seem to think they can pull alongside at lights then cut across me to turn left especially when they want to enter the freeway here in Perth.
Light trucks are the worst and then hoot and holler when I won't drop back to let them cut across my front!
Why the hell should I? It was their bad impatient driving put them in the wrong lane not mine.
Our local council also seems to have a large number of employees who think they can push me over when they've made the decision to try to attempt to show me how it should be done.... :D
Tosser drivers are everywhere and they're not all in Toyomitzunisscans.
AlanH.

[El Rey]

So many seem to think they can pull alongside at lights then cut across me to turn left especially when they want to enter the freeway here in Perth.
AlanH.

Yes this is common for me too. When I drove a car it was always the tradies in work utes who seemed to carve me up. Now it seems to be small vanilla sedans and hatches with irritated drivers.

[Bobby D]

2. The impression (or reality) that people are tailgating me more. Almost as if they make an assumption that I'm going to trundle along because of what I'm driving - so even when I'm going at the speed limit in the left lane I get people coming up on me. One person the other day overtook in a frustrated manner, and pulled back into my lane right in front of me on Coronation Drive just as the traffic ahead all braked. I had to swerve out of that lane or rear end them. Luckily there was no-one next to me, because I didn't have time to check.

It's a double edge sword driving a Deefer on busy roads. Plus side is that you have a large, imposing, big presence on the road (particularly a 130) that's impossible to miss. I find merging (something Canberrans are notoriously allergic to) a breeze, everyone lets me in no worries and they never seem to get mad.
Downside, everyone thinks you're always going 10 under, even if you 10 over and all hurry to overtake you, then swerve back in front. Sorry that's not a gap in traffic, that's my braking distance!

One downside of Defender ownership, I find it hard to "shut-off" and relax, I'm always listening out of rattles, clunks, assessing how it's running today against how it was yesterday. Doesn't help that I have a long list of work I want to do to it in the back of my head.

[copba]

2. The impression (or reality) that people are tailgating me more. Almost as if they make an assumption that I'm going to trundle along because of what I'm driving - so even when I'm going at the speed limit in the left lane I get people coming up on me. One person the other day overtook in a frustrated manner, and pulled back into my lane right in front of me on Coronation Drive just as the traffic ahead all braked. I had to swerve out of that lane or rear end them. Luckily there was no-one next to me, because I didn't have time to check.

Yep, I get this all the time :mad: It's like MUST PASS the old Land Rover, no matter what speed it's travelling at. :(

[karlz]

Its the same here in Mel-born Especially peak hour.
Leave a minute gap, and they all cut in on you (indicator after turning), regardless of the speed.
It sucks when you take off on a slight incline in 1st.

[flagg]

Yep, I get this all the time :mad: It's like MUST PASS the old Land Rover, no matter what speed it's travelling at. :(

Probably people used being behind the Isuzu 110s. :wasntme:

[loneranger]

Whatever you do don't get a red one. In the Keswick 110 I find I don't have too many problems but it does have a bullbar, spotties and a lightbar so it has a bit of presence. The Montelcino 90 which is still stock seems to be invisible from the amount of people that pull out in front of me or turn across when there is nothing on the road behind me. Hopefully that will all change when I fit a bullbar and lights. ;)

[Toxic_Avenger]

Leave a minute gap,

I know defenders aren't fast... but wow.
I usually just leave a 3 second gap :p

[67hardtop]

Buy a louder horn.
Or lots of louder horns.
Makes em mess their pants.

Cheers Rod

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[Col 110]

Whatever you do don't get a red one. In the Keswick 110 I find I don't have too many problems but it does have a bullbar, spotties and a lightbar so it has a bit of presence. The Montelcino 90 which is still stock seems to be invisible from the amount of people that pull out in front of me or turn across when there is nothing on the road behind me. Hopefully that will all change when I fit a bullbar and lights. ;)

Absolutely - I have the same issue with my stock Montalcino 110 - people *must* get in front of me no matter what.

I drove back from Lithgow Sat and Sun arvo - up the hill to Bell and on both days I was overtaken desperately at the top of the hill to then have to follow them doing less than 80 till the next over taking lane - where they speed up for the fear of having to follow a defender :twisted:

[tailslide]

I have noticed similar behaviour with the Defender, maybe it is because I am leaving a slightly larger gap than I would have with the D2. People must think that we are just too slow...

[El Rey]

Absolutely - I have the same issue with my stock Montalcino 110 - people *must* get in front of me no matter what.

I drove back from Lithgow Sat and Sun arvo - up the hill to Bell and on both days I was overtaken desperately at the top of the hill to then have to follow them doing less than 80 till the next over taking lane - where they speed up for the fear of them having to follow a defender :twisted:

Hahaha! I can see it in my mind.

[Rolly]

My previous car was a Volvo, it prepared me well for the arrogance of other drivers......at least now I look down on them!

[rar110]

My previous car was a Volvo, it prepared me well for the arrogance of other drivers......at least now I look down on them!

Probably similar to my experience in the RRV.

[alien]

On a recent weekend away we got stuck behind a duel cab late model Highlux slowing up significantly on hills while towing with a plume of black smoke from his "upgrade." chip while lumbering over the top.
I passed him on one uphill run in the Puma while towing and left him well behind as we crested.
Once on the open freeway I sat on 110km/h as its a fairly downhill run and guess who took 10km to get around me.
He no sooner got infront and I took the exit but looking at the raw fuel blowing out his exhaust he would have been looking for a servo fairly soon:D

Don't start me on what they do when I'm at work driving 57 tonne of truck:angrylock:

[Phil B]

My Perentie is an obvious target of the " must be slow up hills 'cause it's an old army Land Rover" idiots
Since installing a turbo it's great fun to hold the speed limit up hills and watch the dick in the toynispaj have to flog the poor thing he/she drives to keep up, let alone overtake legally
Looks can definitely be deceptive!!

[DazzaTD5]

I tend to find when driving my dads Defender TD5 130, I just go, change lanes, pull out into roundabouts, pull out in front of others, do what ever the hell I like, which is exactly how my dad drives... its insured and if other drivers want to take on 3.2 ton of Defender with bullbar, steel tray..... be my guest..

A Defender is perfect for traffic in W.A with all the pig ignorant drivers on the road here.

Regards
Daz

[Bobby D]

I tend to find when driving my dads Defender TD5 130, I just go, change lanes, pull out into roundabouts, pull out in front of others, do what ever the hell I like, which is exactly how my dad drives... its insured and if other drivers want to take on 3.2 ton of Defender with bullbar, steel tray..... be my guest..

Sounds exactly like my defender, and yeah it's pretty hard to not drive like that. And being a tradie I have a stereotype to uphold! :D

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[ATH]

I tend to find when driving my dads Defender TD5 130, I just go, change lanes, pull out into roundabouts, pull out in front of others, do what ever the hell I like, which is exactly how my dad drives... its insured and if other drivers want to take on 3.2 ton of Defender with bullbar, steel tray..... be my guest..

A Defender is perfect for traffic in W.A with all the pig ignorant drivers on the road here.

Regards
Daz

!!! I shall have to remember this post when I next bring my vehicle in for work to be done Darren.
Thnx. for the warning.
AlanH.

[inside]

After turning my once touring only 110 into a daily driver this is how I feel.
https://j.gifs.com/vJnLJ1.webm

[Toxic_Avenger]

That's exactly what defender ownership is like.
But sadly I'm not as cool as ace ventura.

[Pickles2]

Well, guess what people, We haven't encountered any of the issues that you mention, whilst driving Gracie. Maybe it's because we think she's a "slow"vehicle, and nearly always keep to the left?
We"ve had lots of "fast"cars, Group A Commodores, HSV GTO, AMG C63 etc, and have encountered far more ratbag drivers whilst driving these.
I know that we find driving Gracie far more relaxing & enjoyable, we know she's slow, so we just "relax", & "let the world go by"!
I believe part of the reason that I don't have any issues, is my attitude to driving, I no longer have 4/500hp to play with, I no longer feel the need to "keep up", so I just "cruise along"...works for us.
Pickles.

[MrLandy]

I too enjoy the calm presence of driving a Defender, but it is very amusing watching Toyota drivers try to out gun the 'old' Landy. It does happen all the time...especially when over taking and they speed up! I just cruise on past or wait for the next hill and cruise on past in the Puma :-). Though must admit the old 300tdi is a drop back to 80km/hr on hills proposition now... It's hilarious how excited a hilux driver gets when he can pass an old Landy on a hill! And funnier still when he tries the same on a new Defender.

[DazzaTD5]

!!! I shall have to remember this post when I next bring my vehicle in for work to be done Darren.
Thnx. for the warning.
AlanH.

Unfortunately (I guess) Its the only vehicle I can drive like that, when driving customers vehicles... right or wrong I have to give way, apart from the whole having to deal with my own insurance, I'd find it somewhat embarrassing telling a customer I've crunched their pride and joy.

It happened once, had a idiot run up the back of a customers Discovery 2, Id just finished rebuilding the gearbox, transfer case and was road testing it, only damaged the rear plastic bumper, the customer got an upgraded steel bumper replacement. The commodore that hit the back end had to be towed away.

Regards
Daz

[Rolly]

OK, Worst(not German Sausage) part of owning Defender is the feeling of regret when I drive the other car.......

[cuppabillytea]

The worst thing about driving a Defender Is when I think about all the years I didn't spend Driving a Defender.
And yes I get all the standard issues, especially the ones where I'm expected to be slow. I even think to my self, after a stint of brisk driving, "".Oh Billy. That was conduct unbecoming.

[El Rey]

It's becoming increasingly annoying all the glances I'm getting from members of the opposite sex when they see the Defender go by.

[tailslide]

Wife asks, "do you know them?" As another wave is exchanged...

[DazzaTD5]

Dam dam funny....

"The worst thing about driving a Defender Is when I think about all the years I didn't spend Driving a Defender."

"OK, Worst(not German Sausage) part of owning Defender is the feeling of regret when I drive the other car"

The single worst side effect of owning or even driving a Defender on a regular basis is you get "Defender disease".

From an early 110 county (sorry thats what I call them), a ex-army 110, a 200tdi or 300tdi, TD5 or a newer TDCi I've not driven a Defender I didnt like in some way and do say to customers they are always worth putting money into and fixing up.

Regards
Daz

[hey_burgs]

Side effects of owning a Defender?

Having to explain to people, as politely as possible, that it's not actually a Jeep...

[Crocodile Dundee]

Side effects of owning a Defender?

Having to explain to people, as politely as possible, that it's not actually a Jeep...

The other side effect is taking it to the mechanic and waiting 10 months and still at the mechanics with all the excuses under the sun
I think I have nearly finished the book on excuses:p
Does anybody want yo buy one buyer beware:wasntme:
:angrylock::censored::censored::censored:

[Toxic_Avenger]

Side effects of owning a Defender?

Having to explain to people, as politely as possible, that it's not actually a Jeep...

This happened at the tyre shop today.
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[El Rey]

Side effects of owning a Defender?

Having to explain to people, as politely as possible, that it's not actually a Jeep...

Yes! Some people seem to think 'Jeep' is a universal, non-insulting term for something that looks like a real 4x4. Had it twice already.

[El Rey]

At night, the rear glass/windscreen becomes very reflective inside and you end up seeing what's in front of you in your rearview mirror.

A couple of times on my long interstate drive I thought there was a car coming up behind me, but it was the lights of the vehicle approaching.

[HardCharger]

At night, the rear glass/windscreen becomes very reflective inside and you end up seeing what's in front of you in your rearview mirror.

A couple of times on my long interstate drive I thought there was a car coming up behind me, but it was the lights of the vehicle approaching.

Or that sometimes you suddenly have a ghostly passenger to scare the bejesus out of you only to later realize, once you get your wits back, that it's just a reflection of you.

And sometimes you see this when passing known ghostly areas... :)

[noyakfat]

I hate the resident tiny spider that delights in building an extensive network of webs every single night, across grille slats, between bumperette and body, around snorkel head, across headlight and housing - everywhere ;)

[DiscoMick]

Asian tourists taking selfies in front of George in car parks.
Hiluxes trying to pass me when I'm doing the speed limit.
The looks on drivers of Corollas etc when I pass them uphill.

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[Lagerfan]

Asian tourists taking selfies in front of George in car parks.


Hahaha you too! Had this a couple of times now.


I hate the resident tiny spider that delights in building an extensive network of webs every single night, across grille slats, between bumperette and body, around snorkel head, across headlight and housing - everywhere ;)

Tiny spider, I wish! We had a huntsman about 6" across run over the windscreen (outside) recently. Turns out he/she was living behind the snorkel, took a week or so to find it after the initial brown trouser incident but Mrs Lagerfan refused to get in until I did.

I think probably the worst or funniest depending on your take on it is explaining to people that no I haven't done a great restoration job ... it's actually a MY2013 vehicle.

[mekon76]

Other people's useless opinions on how uncomfortable it is as a passenger. I didn't get it for becoming an Uber driver.

[AndyG]

Having mine resting in Oz and my daily drive is a 76 Cruiserhere :(
Am looking forward to a 170HP of Puma fury, :) just to confuse Hiluxs :twisted:

[jimr1]

I've still got an old 110 county , I've had it for years . At one time it was my pride and joy . It has a 4.4 with a Holley carbie , extractors Big exhaust , stage two cam , electronic ignition . R 380 box . It sounds like a Naz Car , and pulls like a steam train ! I was sitting at a Red light when a Ferrari sports car pulled up next to me . Due to my hight I couldn't see the driver . I gave it a little squirt , and it roars . Well he did the same , " took the bait " So another little rev . Well when the lights changed , off he went like a bat out of hell ! After all a Ferrari drive can't be seen to be upstaged by an old 110 . I watched him go and had to laugh out loud . I still think about that every time I see a Red Ferrari !!.. Jim :D:D

[cuppabillytea]

Thats funny. If I was in the Ferrari ( Like that's ever going to happen) I would dawdle away from the lights in contempt. :p

[DazzaTD5]

Side effects of owning a Defender?

Having to explain to people, as politely as possible, that it's not actually a Jeep...

I have a good junk of customers from the United Kingdom (yes thats all the little islands together) and it is a normal term for a 4wd "Jeep" .... its a bit like how they see all AU and NZ as the same, from their point of view its not an insult.

Regards
Daz

[DiscoMick]

I've still got an old 110 county , I've had it for years . At one time it was my pride and joy . It has a 4.4 with a Holley carbie , extractors Big exhaust , stage two cam , electronic ignition . R 380 box . It sounds like a Naz Car , and pulls like a steam train ! I was sitting at a Red light when a Ferrari sports car pulled up next to me . Due to my hight I couldn't see the driver . I gave it a little squirt , and it roars . Well he did the same , " took the bait " So another little rev . Well when the lights changed , off he went like a bat out of hell ! After all a Ferrari drive can't be seen to be upstaged by an old 110 . I watched him go and had to laugh out loud . I still think about that every time I see a Red Ferrari !!.. Jim :D:D
I once revved it up and took off from the lights and beat a Porsche to 60 km/h, which was amusing. After that I stopped trying. He was so shocked he floored it and rushed off past me, way over the speed limit. It was funny to watch.


I keep seeing trails of ants running across the white bonnet and guards when I come out in the morning. They stand out. Sprayed around the gaps, but haven't found their nest yet.

[El Rey]

The other day I bought 3 bottles of the hottest chili sauce I could find, mixed them with a couple of litres of cooking oil, and spent a few hours making loosely closed glad wrap water bombs with the mixture and trying to lob them into next door's fig tree to drench the branches.

Mixed success - some went sailing right through the tree and onto the ground beyond. Some went into the tree but didn't open up, just falling to the ground. some flew open in mid-flight. But about a quarter hit and then released, dripping onto branches, leaves, fruit etc.

i couldn't reach the top or the far side of the tree, but there's been a definite reduction to almost 0% in the flying fox poo on the Defender.

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Before the glad wrap bombs I'd also tried buying some water bomb balloons, but they require pressure to expand and I had no way to pressure fill chili into them.

Also tried the Gerny water jet but it actually doesn't reach very far - much less than the hose.

They didn't like the hose, but it couldn't reach everywhere, and as soon as it stopped they came swooping back.

[DiscoMick]

You could just eat the figs so the flying foxes have nothing to eat and go elsewhere. Or use car covers. Or tie a cat to the roof rack. Or spread sugar over the fig trees so the ants swarm and bite the flying foxes so they fly away to escape. Keep in mind that flying foxes are protected so don't injure them. Just saying.

[El Rey]

You could just eat the figs so the flying foxes have nothing to eat and go elsewhere. Or use car covers. Or tie a cat to the roof rack. Or spread sugar over the fig trees so the ants swarm and bite the flying foxes so they fly away to escape. Keep in mind that flying foxes are protected so don't injure them. Just saying.

Cheers for the tips.

Figs are way up high in a tree and all over the place - it's too tall to climb and too big to get at all the fruit everywhere.
(The fruit is also not ripe, but that doesn't stop the flying foxes)
(Also fruits all year long)

Have a car cover, but a car cover covered in poop is harder to clean than a vehicle, and becomes harder and more unpleasant to put away each time.

Cat...

Sugar - again I can barely reach the middle levels of the foliage with my hardest throw. Getting sugar up there would be problematic.

Yep - not injuring them - just trying to create an unpleasant chili-smelling and redolent environment they don't want to visit.

[mekon76]

Side effects- Here I am laid up with broken leg and ankle in cast. Still for another 3 weeks. Couldn't handle it any more took the defender to the shops last night, piece of ****, leg got a good work out on the clutch pedal. Was harder pushing the shopping trolley around. What an addiction.

[karlz]

How about the reflection (of the sun) your front window projects.

Some stories.

1. Sunlight directly beamed into the rear view mirror of the car in front.
2. Signs that look way over lit up
3. Drivers coming the other way with hands over their eyes

[cuppabillytea]

How about the reflection (of the sun) your front window projects.

Some stories.

1. Sunlight directly beamed into the rear view mirror of the car in front.
2. Signs that look way over lit up
3. Drivers coming the other way with hands over their eyes
Ditto on all of those and don't forget the whole back of your car is flat.

[DiscoMick]

Having to remember to check that the rear windows haven't started winding themselves down.

[Chenz]

Cheers for the tips.

Figs are way up high in a tree and all over the place - it's too tall to climb and too big to get at all the fruit everywhere.
(The fruit is also not ripe, but that doesn't stop the flying foxes)
(Also fruits all year long)

Have a car cover, but a car cover covered in poop is harder to clean than a vehicle, and becomes harder and more unpleasant to put away each time.

Cat...

Sugar - again I can barely reach the middle levels of the foliage with my hardest throw. Getting sugar up there would be problematic.

Yep - not injuring them - just trying to create an unpleasant chili-smelling and redolent environment they don't want to visit.

We had a problem with Flying Foxes at my work and employed a tree climber to put those amber flashing lights that they use on roadworks that come on after dark. A tree with a canopy of around 10m wide had 4 lights. Reduced the problem by over 80%.

Not sure of the legality of upsetting an endangered species but a hell of a lot less poo on the ground and seats under the tree.

Have to change the batteries every few months. When the figs are not on the tree the numbers drop to bugger all so you only need to do it when the fruit is ripe.

Told my neighbour as he has a Banksia tree and they come in to eat the flowers which have a lot of nectar. Two lights no bats.

Hope this helps

[DiscoMick]

We had a problem with Flying Foxes at my work and employed a tree climber to put those amber flashing lights that they use on roadworks that come on after dark. A tree with a canopy of around 10m wide had 4 lights. Reduced the problem by over 80%.

Not sure of the legality of upsetting an endangered species but a hell of a lot less poo on the ground and seats under the tree.

Have to change the batteries every few months. When the figs are not on the tree the numbers drop to bugger all so you only need to do it when the fruit is ripe.

Told my neighbour as he has a Banksia tree and they come in to eat the flowers which have a lot of nectar. Two lights no bats.

Hope this helps
I wonder if hanging some solar powered Christmas lights around the place would deter the bats?

[El Rey]

We had a problem with Flying Foxes at my work and employed a tree climber to put those amber flashing lights that they use on roadworks that come on after dark. A tree with a canopy of around 10m wide had 4 lights. Reduced the problem by over 80%.
Hope this helps

Cheers mate. Problem is that this tree is on our neighbor's property. I've done my chili shenanigans when they're not around, and there's no real evidence of it. But some flashing lights through their windows - I guess I can ask and see what they say.

I actually went out one night and tried using my high-powered tactical light set to strobe, to drive them away. Believe me, if you looked directly into this light you would become immediately disoriented - but these little buggers just turned their heads away until the light went out, then back to business.

Maybe actually up in the tree is another matter.

[DiscoMick]

Why don't you fit a sensor light so it comes on and shines on the vehicle if a flying fox comes near it? Maybe one of those cheap solar lights. Jaycar has reasonable quality ones for a fair price. The light might shoo them away. We have one in our carport and its rare to get birds in there at night now.

[DazzaTD5]

Having to remember to check that the rear windows haven't started winding themselves down.

Tell me this isnt true???? ..... the only Defender I see all the time is my Dad's, and I'm always saying "Pa its ****ing rain, your rear windows are down" (again and again) just about 20 - 50 mm....

Regards
Daz

[DazzaTD5]

We had a problem with Flying Foxes at my work and employed a tree climber to put those amber flashing lights that they use on roadworks that come on after dark. A tree with a canopy of around 10m wide had 4 lights. Reduced the problem by over 80%.

Not sure of the legality of upsetting an endangered species but a hell of a lot less poo on the ground and seats under the tree.

Have to change the batteries every few months. When the figs are not on the tree the numbers drop to bugger all so you only need to do it when the fruit is ripe.

Told my neighbour as he has a Banksia tree and they come in to eat the flowers which have a lot of nectar. Two lights no bats.

Hope this helps

Off topic but...
I was in Mackey (QLD) and we had parked a work vehicle under a big tree in a carpark, on dusk, the driver slammed the drivers door..... the vehicle, myself and my co-worker were covered in bat poo .... the smell was horrific.....

Regards
Daz

[tailslide]

Tell me this isnt true???? ..... the only Defender I see all the time is my Dad's, and I'm always saying "Pa its ****ing rain, your rear windows are down" (again and again) just about 20 - 50 mm....

Regards
Daz

I drove back from Albany during the school holidays in my MY2016 and was cursing the door seals on the rear door causing wind noise in my ear. When I got home I discovered that the window was cracked open...:angel:

[afb]

Every insect that your headlights illuminate ends up splattered on your windscreen.

Cheers
Adrian

[El Rey]

Off topic but...
I was in Mackey (QLD) and we had parked a work vehicle under a big tree in a carpark, on dusk, the driver slammed the drivers door..... the vehicle, myself and my co-worker were covered in bat poo .... the smell was horrific.....

Regards
Daz

You're lucky you didn't get Hendra Virus. Bloody hell.

[El Rey]

Every insect that your headlights illuminate ends up splattered on your windscreen.
Cheers
Adrian

Yes I now have a bottle of bug and tar remover with me when I drive...
It's so good at removing that stuff, I wonder what it's doing to the paint.

[mekon76]

When it's been raining and you just want to get going, but the kids want to see the roof top waterfall over the windscreen.

[El Rey]

When the Swedish backpacker who spent the night with you in the back of the 110 somewhere in Far Nth Qld, asks if you can take a detour to drop her and her friend off at a cool nudist beach they've heard about.

Actually I just made this up. Can always hope though.

[DiscoMick]

I drove back from Albany during the school holidays in my MY2016 and was cursing the door seals on the rear door causing wind noise in my ear. When I got home I discovered that the window was cracked open...:angel:
Yeah my rear windows slowly vibrate down too. Apparently you can tighten up the mechanism.

[Chenz]

When it's been raining and you just want to get going, but the kids want to see the roof top waterfall over the windscreen.

Or the reverse out of the driveway after it has been raining with the driver side window down and the water in the gutters hit the roof rack mounts and end up all over your lap and leg.

Was worse when I had the awning mounted it was a real bath time then

[cuppabillytea]

I parked mine drivers side to the curb the other day. Instead of going in head first I thought I'd slide in like you would in a normal car. Tore the pocket off my brand new work pants.:confused:

[DiscoMick]

George brought home a heavy load of crusher dust today. Then he went to the Maleny Wood Show, which was excellent.

[cuppabillytea]

George Knows a good Wood Show when he sees one. Bought a good Butchers block from there in 2003.

[DiscoMick]

Yes, it is good. Rain kept the crowd down, unfortunately.

[Tote]

I parked mine drivers side to the curb the other day. Instead of going in head first I thought I'd slide in like you would in a normal car. Tore the pocket off my brand new work pants.:confused:

And the fix..... X-Trouser Door Striker - Paddock Spares (http://www.paddockspares.com/x-trouser-door-striker.html)

I'm down one old pair of jeans so far.

Regards,
Tote

[cuppabillytea]

And the fix..... X-Trouser Door Striker - Paddock Spares (http://www.paddockspares.com/x-trouser-door-striker.html)

I'm down one old pair of jeans so far.

Regards,
Tote

Yes I know. I'll get around to it one day. :angel:

[dick180641]

I have a sticker (same on ALL my Landies!) that reads:-

SPEED KILLS
Drive a LandRover
and
LIVE LONGER!

At least it makes 'em laugh!

[kogvos]

I parked mine drivers side to the curb the other day. Instead of going in head first I thought I'd slide in like you would in a normal car. Tore the pocket off my brand new work pants.:confused:
If I went in head first I think I'd be out the other side before my legs got in!

[cuppabillytea]

If I went in head first I think I'd be out the other side before my legs got in!

Wrong technique. You are not supposed to launch yourself off the Kid's trampoline.

[El Rey]

When I pull into a shopping center carpark I deliberately choose the most isolated spot with no-one around, so I can pull out without the added drama of squeezing past someone or being forced into a 6-point turn.

However surprisingly often a helpful individual has decided to park right next to me, or right behind me - negating my efforts for no obvious reason.

[Babs]

The upright windscreen is a magnet for rocks I have two chips within an inch of each other, it's not even worth fixing, it will just happen again.

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[El Rey]

This is not Defender-related but I have to get it off my chest.

Some people around my way park like real a-holes.

For example:

- Parked on the inside curve of a busy suburban road, so people using that side have to veer out into the other lane going around the corner to get by.

- Parking half on the verge and half on the road so their 4x4 takes up half a lane near the top of a hill. This means that if there's oncoming traffic and you can't veer out into the oncoming lane, you have to slow right down and gear down right when you least want to.

- Parking outside our house for days on end. There's some work going on at a nearby property, and for some reason one or two of the tradies seem to want to leave a ute on our street for up to a week at a time, day and night. The issue is that we live on a Close, with limited parking, and on top of that the way our drive works, the back of the ute intrudes slightly across the driveway making entry and exit for us just that little bit more of a pain in the ass.

A story to finish: I was volunteering at the parking for a suburban sports event a few years ago. Only people with a tag could use the parking, and I'd open the boom for them.
Some guy rocks up, does a loop and sees there's no street parking - and just parks right across someone's driveway and walks off. 5 minutes later the homeowner appears and discovers he can't get his vehicle out to go wherever he was going. He ends up walking off down the road and his wife comes out to have a look and ask me if I know anything about it. Then she wanders off.

A few minutes later my replacement volunteer at the parking took over. At the same time some police rocked up who must have been assigned duty keeping an eye on the event. So on my way out I went over and explained the situation and pointed right at the offending vehicle. The cops rolled their eyes at each other and one of them reluctantly strolled in that direction. But he was obviously just waiting for me to go, because when I turned around a few seconds later he'd rejoined his mate and they were both standing hands in pockets, gazing out over the sports field.

[Babs]

This is not Defender-related but I have to get it off my chest. Some people around my way park like real a-holes. For example: - Parked on the inside curve of a busy suburban road, so people using that side have to veer out into the other lane going around the corner to get by. - Parking half on the verge and half on the road so their 4x4 takes up half a lane near the top of a hill. This means that if there's oncoming traffic and you can't veer out into the oncoming lane, you have to slow right down and gear down right when you least want to. - Parking outside our house for days on end. There's some work going on at a nearby property, and for some reason one or two of the tradies seem to want to leave a ute on our street for up to a week at a time, day and night. The issue is that we live on a Close, with limited parking, and on top of that the way our drive works, the back of the ute intrudes slightly across the driveway making entry and exit for us just that little bit more of a pain in the ass. A story to finish: I was volunteering at the parking for a suburban sports event a few years ago. Only people with a tag could use the parking, and I'd open the boom for them. Some guy rocks up, does a loop and sees there's no street parking - and just parks right across someone's driveway and walks off. 5 minutes later the homeowner appears and discovers he can't get his vehicle out to go wherever he was going. He ends up walking off down the road and his wife comes out to have a look and ask me if I know anything about it. Then she wanders off. A few minutes later my replacement volunteer at the parking took over. At the same time some police rocked up who must have been assigned duty keeping an eye on the event. So on my way out I went over and explained the situation and pointed right at the offending vehicle. The cops rolled their eyes at each other and one of them reluctantly strolled in that direction. But he was obviously just waiting for me to go, because when I turned around a few seconds later he'd rejoined his mate and they were both standing hands in pockets, gazing out over the sports field.


Rey, you own a winch don't you? If not this sounds like the best excuse to get one.

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[cuppabillytea]

A trolly jack under the diff is a simple and effective way of repositioning an inconveniently parked vehicle. :angel::wasntme:

[El Rey]

Rey, you own a winch don't you? If not this sounds like the best excuse to get one.

Hahah! You're a smooth criminal.

[El Rey]

A trolly jack under the diff is a simple and effective way of repositioning an inconveniently parked vehicle. :angel::wasntme:

This is also some sage advice...

[DiscoMick]

This is not Defender-related but I have to get it off my chest.

Some people around my way park like real a-holes.

For example:

- Parked on the inside curve of a busy suburban road, so people using that side have to veer out into the other lane going around the corner to get by.

- Parking half on the verge and half on the road so their 4x4 takes up half a lane near the top of a hill. This means that if there's oncoming traffic and you can't veer out into the oncoming lane, you have to slow right down and gear down right when you least want to.

- Parking outside our house for days on end. There's some work going on at a nearby property, and for some reason one or two of the tradies seem to want to leave a ute on our street for up to a week at a time, day and night. The issue is that we live on a Close, with limited parking, and on top of that the way our drive works, the back of the ute intrudes slightly across the driveway making entry and exit for us just that little bit more of a pain in the ass.

A story to finish: I was volunteering at the parking for a suburban sports event a few years ago. Only people with a tag could use the parking, and I'd open the boom for them.
Some guy rocks up, does a loop and sees there's no street parking - and just parks right across someone's driveway and walks off. 5 minutes later the homeowner appears and discovers he can't get his vehicle out to go wherever he was going. He ends up walking off down the road and his wife comes out to have a look and ask me if I know anything about it. Then she wanders off.

A few minutes later my replacement volunteer at the parking took over. At the same time some police rocked up who must have been assigned duty keeping an eye on the event. So on my way out I went over and explained the situation and pointed right at the offending vehicle. The cops rolled their eyes at each other and one of them reluctantly strolled in that direction. But he was obviously just waiting for me to go, because when I turned around a few seconds later he'd rejoined his mate and they were both standing hands in pockets, gazing out over the sports field.
In some places in Thailand when we lived there when you parked in a parking station the attendants would ask you to leave your vehicle out of gear with the handbrake off. Then they could just push the vehicles around to get particular vehicles out. They got twice as many vehicles in and you could still get out. Quite smart really. Of course, you got the odd bump, but it's only very low speed so no major damage. Should be tried here.

[MrLandy]

In some places in Thailand when we lived there when you parked in a parking station the attendants would ask you to leave your vehicle out of gear with the handbrake off. Then they could just push the vehicles around to get particular vehicles out. They got twice as many vehicles in and you could still get out. Quite smart really. Of course, you got the odd bump, but it's only very low speed so no major damage. Should be tried here.

Same thing in tight Paris streets. Everyone leaves their handbrake off and all bumpers are touching.

[El Rey]

Every time I opened the back door I wondered why the handle was so badly designed that I had to use two motions - one most of the way up, and then adjust my hand position/wrist angle to finish.

This morning I realized it's because I'm a left hander.

Using your left hand with a knuckles up grip doesn't work. You're obviously meant to use your right hand with palm up.

[Plutei]

It's funny how the differences in our physiology make such a difference with defenders. For example, I have never ever caught my pants on the door striker because my legs are so long.

[kogvos]

It's funny how the differences in our physiology make such a difference with defenders. For example, I have never ever caught my pants on the door striker because my legs are so long.
Same here but I couldn't resist changing the strikes anyway! But I do have to drive bent over so I can see outside.

[cuppabillytea]

It's funny how the differences in our physiology make such a difference with defenders. For example, I have never ever caught my pants on the door striker because my legs are so long.

I hadn't either until I went in bum first from a raised platform.

[Plutei]

Do not like: When I look to my right all I see is a B-Pillar.

[El Rey]

Do not like - for some reason turning left turns off my left indicator.

So I indicate as I approach a turn off, then as I turn the steering wheel left it turns off the indicator - leaving some doubt in other driver's minds.

Doesn't happen when turning right.

I have taken to holding down the indicator stalk, and I can hear/feel a little click as it tries to turn off.

[kogvos]

I sometimes have the same problem turning right. I now only go left. Makes it hard to get home, but the bottle shop is on the left so it works out in the end.

[tailslide]

Mine had the same issue turning right. The hub was replaced three times， it appears that it is now fixed after the switch assembly was replaced as well.:)

[DiscoMick]

I seem to turn left more frequently than right - how can that be right?

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[AndyG]

I think you left something out

[Babs]

No I think he's right, he left the right when he turned left right away. Right so if he does 3 lefts that makes a right, right? Ah right I think this should be left up to the experts, right?

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[Disco4Dave]

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do!

[bee utey]

You need to turn left right here.

[DiscoMick]

Right now, this discussion makes me feel left behind.

[El Rey]

Right now, this discussion makes me feel left behind.

You mean left right out.

[MrLandy]

I'm far too left to be right ...apparently🙃

[TheGrumpy]

This bit should be black to match the chassis

[cuppabillytea]

I agree. I was looking at that yesterday. I think I'll spray it with Tar.

[Babs]

I agree. I was looking at that yesterday. I think I'll spray it with Tar.

Yep, that's what I done to both my Defenders.

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[MrLandy]

Yep, that's what I done to both my Defenders.

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Have you done it to your disco too Babs? ...or are you just missing your Deefers? 😄

[alittlebitconcerned]

I don't like how damn superior I feel in my 110. I try to be humble in life

[alittlebitconcerned]

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do!

Or...

Two wrongs don't make a right, but two rights (wrights) make an aeroplane.







Sorry.

[cuppabillytea]

Do Aeroplanes have turn indicators? :confused:

[Dopey]

Do Aeroplanes have turn indicators? :confused:

Yes,

Turn Indicators

There are two types of turn indicators in aircraft. These are: the Turn and Bank Indicator (T/B ) and the Turn Coordinator (T/C). Both are gyro driven and indicate the rate of turn but the turn coordinator can also indicate rate of roll. The T/B has a needle indicator where the T/C has an aircraft picture on the face of the instrument.

Neither of these instrument give an direct indication of bank angle. For that you will need the speed of the aircraft and rate of turn to calculate the bank angle, or have an attitude indicator.

Also note that these indicators are part of the basic six instruments in an aircraft the pilot needs for legal instrument flying. Nowadays you see more and more EFIS panels where the original T/C and T/B are used as standby and backup in case of failure.

Info from,
Turn Coordinator | Turn and Bank Indicators (http://www.experimentalaircraft.info/articles/aircraft-turn-indicators.php)

Mike.

[MrLandy]

The only side effect I don't like about owning a Defender is... Hmm... Well... Umm... Nothing.

[travelrover]

Have owned many over the years and the only side effect I have noticed is you need more than one!


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[El Rey]

Getting caught looking at naughty sites on the internet.

Naughty = more bits for your Defender.

[Surrufus]

I have ( an almost ) 12 month old Puma 110...

... and I want a V8 powered 90 for being silly in

DAMN YOU LAND ROVER!

[Jitterbug]

I have ( an almost ) 12 month old Puma 110...

... and I want a V8 powered 90 for being silly in

DAMN YOU LAND ROVER!

I have the Defender 6x6 for camping and the V8 90 for being silly. A good combination for sure!