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bob10
14th April 2016, 08:08 AM
It's the old " gee whizz" syndrone. Gee whizz, they can't do that. Never mind you are only about 70 km's off their coast.

Videos Show Russian Fighter Jets Buzzing U.S. Destroyer, Navy Says - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/videos-show-russian-fighter-jets-buzzing-u-s-destroyer-navy-says-665441859953)

PhilipA
14th April 2016, 10:57 AM
The Russians claimed that the US ship was "acting aggressively"

Whats the bet that the ship illuminated the planes with its air defence radar, probably 100Km or more away.

The chances of a plane getting that close to a ship these days is pretty remote what with missiles and Gatling close defence guns.

All a good publicity stunt for all concerned and a bit of fun for the pilot

Regards Philip A

Carzee
14th April 2016, 12:08 PM
Distractions. What matters is the subs.

Eevo
14th April 2016, 01:40 PM
storm in a tea cup

rocket scientist
14th April 2016, 08:20 PM
The Russians claimed that the US ship was "acting aggressively"

Whats the bet that the ship illuminated the planes with its air defence radar, probably 100Km or more away.

The chances of a plane getting that close to a ship these days is pretty remote what with missiles and Gatling close defence guns.

All a good publicity stunt for all concerned and a bit of fun for the pilot

Regards Philip A


Exactly, the Yanks would have known what was happening long before.
Notice the crew on the upper deck wern't too stressed!

Another media beat up

Disco Muppet
14th April 2016, 08:24 PM
Not like the Americans have ever been provocative or belligerent :angel:

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digger
14th April 2016, 08:49 PM
There is a code of conduct for opposing forces in close proximity, this is a long standing thing and has been in effect since Cold War days. Using it ensures no one pulls the trigger early starting that dreaded chain reaction.

Russia is now flagrantly breaching that "agreement" especially by the close fly bys - this is still obviously not considered as so dangerous when deck crews arm themselves with cameras not weapons!!

China is also doing this. It is believed that Russia or China playing these games is a much higher risk as they may accidentally cause someone to shoot, or accidentally shoot someone down or shoot up a vessel etc...

At any time these are billion dollar games people are playing.....

bob10
14th April 2016, 08:54 PM
Whats the bet that the ship illuminated the planes with its air defence radar, probably 100Km or more away.

Exactly what the Russians would have wanted. Even more so, the radar frequencies of their missile defence systems. It's all a big game. We did the same back in the cold war days. No big deal.

Eevo
14th April 2016, 08:58 PM
There is a code of conduct for opposing forces in close proximity, this is a long standing thing and has been in effect since Cold War days. Using it ensures no one pulls the trigger early starting that dreaded chain reaction.

Russia is now flagrantly breaching that "agreement" especially by the close fly bys - this is still obviously not considered as so dangerous when deck crews arm themselves with cameras not weapons!!

China is also doing this. It is believed that Russia or China playing these games is a much higher risk as they may accidentally cause someone to shoot, or accidentally shoot someone down or shoot up a vessel etc...

At any time these are billion dollar games people are playing.....


are you suggesting that the US never do this?

digger
14th April 2016, 09:10 PM
are you suggesting that the US never do this?

I don't recall saying that... But I doubt there would be that close a fly by without some sort of warning etc first......

Maybe they aren't always the bad guys?
Bizarre thought I know but what the heck....

I haven't been there for any of them so not vouching for anyone... I just pointed out after a number of posts saying the US would be the aggressor that there are others playing this game....

I did not notice you asking them the same question Eevo.... Maybe a bias there?

:twisted: but I shall not be playing your little game on this thread, it's not mine and I have some sheets to prepare on fallen soldiers from my town here in time for Anzac Day.

bob10
14th April 2016, 09:16 PM
Exactly, the Yanks would have known what was happening long before.
Notice the crew on the upper deck wern't too stressed!

Another media beat up

I should point out, that close to the Russian coast, the destroyer would have been in passive mode, transmitting nothing. Including long range radar. However, they would have been recording every electronic transmission from Russian military radio 's & radars. They would have been monitering the Russian aircraft radio traffic. They were spying , in other words , in the electronic spectrum.

squizzyhunter
14th April 2016, 09:25 PM
I should point out, that close to the Russian coast, the destroyer would have been in passive mode, transmitting nothing. Including long range radar. However, they would have been recording every electronic transmission from Russian military radio 's & radars. They would have been monitering the Russian aircraft radio traffic. They were spying , in other words , in the electronic spectrum.

Yep... what Bob said:BigThumb:

Eevo
14th April 2016, 09:40 PM
I don't recall saying that... But I doubt there would be that close a fly by without some sort of warning etc first......

Maybe they aren't always the bad guys?
Bizarre thought I know but what the heck....

I haven't been there for any of them so not vouching for anyone... I just pointed out after a number of posts saying the US would be the aggressor that there are others playing this game....

I did not notice you asking them the same question Eevo.... Maybe a bias there?

:twisted: but I shall not be playing your little game on this thread, it's not mine and I have some sheets to prepare on fallen soldiers from my town here in time for Anzac Day.

i didnt say you said that. i was questioning if you were suggesting.

i dont think life is as simple as good guy bad guy. unless your a copper. ahaha.

dont need to ask them the same question, the video showed they did.


i also doubt russia is going to start a war with the US by sinking a destroyer.

Pickles2
15th April 2016, 07:00 AM
All a bit of fun, the American guys on the ship would have enjoyed it nearly as much as the Russian pilots,....they probably waved to each other,....from the bit of video I saw, the American guys on deck were actually laughing.
If the Americans had thought there was any danger, they could've taken those jets out easily.
The comment was also made that the Jets did not appear to be armed.
Have the Yanks done this sort of stuff?....Of course they have!
Pickles.

Eevo
15th April 2016, 07:08 AM
they could've taken those jets out easily.

Russian jets > US jets