Defender Turning Circle and internal racks..

[Jimmy]

Probably a crazy question, but has anyone tried to modify the Defender (TD5) steering to avoid 20 point turns???

Also has anyone mounded racks for fishing rods and/or surfboards inside the vehicle to the roof?? Any ideas, suggestions would be great

Cheers
Jimmy

[George130]

Havn't look into it. I just live with the turning circle of your average super tanker.

[hiline]

Originally posted by Jimmy
Probably a crazy question, but has anyone tried to modify the Defender (TD5) steering to avoid 20 point turns???

Also has anyone mounded racks for fishing rods and/or surfboards inside the vehicle to the roof?? Any ideas, suggestions would be great

Cheers
Jimmy

mate if your driving a 110 i wouldn't complain style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

try turning a 130 in a tight street :evil: :evil: :evil:

[tech_support]

Guys,

Get yourselves a P38... You just drive over what's in the way...

"And do it in style"

Cheers,
Mick.

[RoverOne]

Originally posted by Jimmy

Also has anyone mounded racks for fishing rods and/or surfboards inside the vehicle to the roof?? Any ideas, suggestions would be great

Cheers
Jimmy

G'Day Jimmy'

Have two rod holders on inside, they are S/S clips bolted to plastic liner as per pic, they are hard to see & are small, very old, normally to hold a broom to the wall of house. Then occy strap two others with small straps to stop rattling. I have done this both sides one holds 3 rods the other 2 rods.

Have been on for about 5 or 6 years now and no problems & travel over some very rough country, they never come out of the car.

http://www.aulro.com/albums/album307/Defender_fish_rod_holders_right_side.sized.jpg

The pic below shows fitted to both sides (not good shot of clips though)

http://www.aulro.com/albums/album307/Defender_bed.sized.jpg

I've also seen in the same place the hinge open type rod holders with black foam to hold them in place, normaly carried on the roof, these also worked, they carry up to four or five each if neccessary, well light rods any way.

Hope this helps
Cheers
Bryce

[p38arover]

Originally posted by tech_support
Guys,

Get yourselves a P38... You just drive over what's in the way...

"And do it in style".

Surprisingly, the P38A whilst having the almost the same wheelbase (108"), it has a far better turning circle. But it ain't as good as the 100" RR or Disco. This I notice in car parks. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Ron

[british4wd]

Turn your wheels hard one way and then have a look at the back of the front swivel hubs. You will see on each side an adjustable stop that can be screwed in slightly to reduce the turning circle. There is not much adjustment but it does improve things slightly. You could also grind some of the head off the stop.
If you have fitted larger tyres then the tyres could rub on the radius arms.

[tech_support]

Thanks for your support Ron style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I think that I need a dozer blabe to shift those other cars off the road some days... or a high powered laser to blast them to smitheroonies. Having my P38 enables me to see the traffic flow... much better than my old brumby!

Cheers,
Mick.

[hiline]

Originally posted by tech_support
Guys,

Get yourselves a P38... You just drive over what's in the way...

"And do it in style"

Cheers,
Mick.

i have one as well style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
but thats hers :evil: :evil: :evil:
and try and get the keys off her 8O 8O :wink:

[disconut]

Originally posted by british4wd
Turn your wheels hard one way and then have a look at the back of the front swivel hubs. You will see on each side an adjustable stop that can be screwed in slightly to reduce the turning circle. There is not much adjustment but it does improve things slightly. You could also grind some of the head off the stop.
If you have fitted larger tyres then the tyres could rub on the radius arms.

Check out the Scorpion Racing web site. They have some 30mm spacers which will sort out your problem. Cost around $800.00 though.
http://www.scorpionracing.co.uk/

There is a dealer in Perth.

stuart@rovacraft.com.au

I am seriously looking at these!

Trev.

[Jimmy]

Bryce,

cheers for the pics. looks just what I'm looking to do.. Just to confirm, you have the rod holders bolted to the plastic liner above the windows? I was looking at that but thought it seemed a bit flimsy. maybe some nice bof washers on the bolts would aid in securing the holders?

Is your UHF mounting done in the same maner?

Jimmy

[Phoenix]

I didn't think it was legal to use spacers on the road in australia??

Different offset rims work though :wink:

[VladTepes]

How does the Santana set up manage to result in a much smaller turning circle than the Defenders ?

I mention this cozs Phoenix featured the Santana in the latest issue of the AULRO magazine.

[disconut]

Originally posted by Phoenix
I didn't think it was legal to use spacers on the road in australia??

Different offset rims work though :wink:

I checked the QLD regs and they are illegal.
Are offset rims legal??
The cheap spacers, (read big washers with stud holes), I can understand as they will load up the wheel studs and perhaps lead to stud failure.

The "spacers" from Scorpion Racing are not strictly just spacers, as I see it because they are professionally machined and bolt up on the existing wheel studs, then provide new studs for the wheels to bolt on as per the originals. They are also TUV tested. All that I agree does not make them any more legal, but, maybe obtaining an Engineering certification could be possible given the design? :wink:

Trev.

[JDNSW]

I understand spacers are specifically illegal in NSW - presumably because of a history of failures. While the Scorpion ones may well be OK, and the wide pitch circle of the Landrover wheels an advantage, I would think that custom wheels would be cheaper, more reliable, and easier to get engineering approval. Even if they are more mucking about.

But as someone else commented - the 110 is not really too bad (compared to a 130 anyway), and if you have standard tyres you may be able to get a little bit on the steering stops.

[Bushie]

Originally posted by RoverOne


http://www.aulro.com/albums/album307/Defender_bed.sized.jpg



Bryce how is the old AM-SSB radio going, bought one of them from Strathfield car radio in 1984, died in the mid 90's though, Brother in laws is still going strong.


Bushie

[RoverOne]

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http://www.aulro.com/albums/album307/Defender_bed.sized.jpg



Bryce how is the old AM-SSB radio going, bought one of them from Strathfield car radio in 1984, died in the mid 90's though, Brother in laws is still going strong.


Bushie[/b][/quote]

Still going strong Bushie, allthough at the moment not connected to an aerial, but looking for serious replacement now, half a mind to take it out hardly know any one with an am set any more, there are a couple of die hards in the club that do.

When I joined the LROC I had come from the RRC who only use UHF, so I converted the smart guys over to UHF and now 99.8% have UHF.

I bought mine in Melbourne on a trip to SA when the old Midland 23 ch SSB ceased to work. I think about 20 odd years ago cost $500, they told me it was the last of the Japanese made radios in existance, its a good bit of gear to last this long.

Cheers
Bryce

[abaddonxi]

Back to the steering thread.

I saw this on a website, know nothing about it, but it seems to fit your bill.

http://www.innovation4x4.co.uk/steering_quickener.htm

Pricey, but, and who knows about safety, legal, etc.

Cheers

Simon