Cooper and Mickey Thompson Tyres for 18 D4 rims?

[JG337]

Having recently purchased the GoE 18 rims for my D4, I've read through threads going back a couple of years for experiences with 18 inch tyres on the D4, but found little about Coopers or MTs.

Has anyone fitted Cooper ST-MAXX tryes (275/65/R18) or Cooper A/T3 275/65/18 to the D4 ? Or the MT STZ 265/60/18?

Rubbing? Wear with OR campers? Grateful for advice, thanks.

JG

[BMKal]

Having recently purchased the GoE 18 rims for my D4, I've read through threads going back a couple of years for experiences with 18 inch tyres on the D4, but found little about Coopers or MTs.

Has anyone fitted Cooper ST-MAXX tryes (275/65/R18) or Cooper A/T3 275/65/18 to the D4 ? Or the MT STZ 265/60/18?

Rubbing? Wear with OR campers? Grateful for advice, thanks.

JG

I've had the MT 265/60/18 STZ's on mine for quite a while now and very happy with them. They have more than 60,000km on them now, and still plenty of life left in them. Mostly bitumen work, but they have also been off road plenty of times. They perform well in all conditions that I have encountered, and no sign of chipping / cracking etc. No rubbing at all - there's plenty of clearance in the wheel arches at all height settings with this size. A little noisy once they have worn a bit - but nowhere near as bad as many other tyres out there.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/04/526.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

I've had various Cooper tyres on work vehicles up in the Pilbara, and have seen far too many failures with these. Wouldn't have them on my own vehicles. But then, I also know others who have had a good run with them and recommend them. They used to be very popular around here in the Goldfields, but you don't see them anywhere near as often these days. ;)

[LRD414]

Rubbing?
Welcome to the forum. Can't help with feedback on Coopers or MT but regarding rubbing, there's some good info on the GOE website.

Summary:
265/60R18 - no rubbing at all
275/65R18 - some minor rubbing and therefore modifications to consider, detailed on GOE.

Also, this thread is about other mud tyres but also includes good info about the modifications to fit 275/65:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/205260-mud-tyres-18-a.html

Cheers,
Scott

[Firko]

G'day mate,
my experience with cooper tires was terrable... I was running the new AT3 on my 2013 BT50 and they were absolutely diabolical in the wet very hard tires they get you on the km garentee but read the fine print its not what you think.

I will never ever buy cooper tyres again.

Saying that some people love them ... maybe they have never used quality tyres:whistling:

[LandyAndy]

When I eventually get GOE rims Im hoping they will be bringing in the Goodyear Duratrac in 18" sizes.They have only recently started bringing them in in 19" 255/55.
Andrew

[Tombie]

When I eventually get GOE rims Im hoping they will be bringing in the Goodyear Duratrac in 18" sizes.They have only recently started bringing them in in 19" 255/55.

Andrew



Only catch is Duratrac in 18s is 110 rated.. And not LT.

There's only one LT A/T out there - it's 114 rated.

[~Rich~]

Welcome to the forum. Can't help with feedback on Coopers or MT but regarding rubbing, there's some good info on the GOE website.

Summary:
265/60R18 - no rubbing at all
275/65R18 - some minor rubbing and therefore modifications to consider, detailed on GOE.

Also, this thread is about other mud tyres but also includes good info about the modifications to fit 275/65:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/205260-mud-tyres-18-a.html

Cheers,
Scott

With the 275/65 R18 both rear wheel arch liners will need modification as they will most definitely rub the O/A diameter is 815mm, front liners will also need some minor massaging.
285/60 R18 you can get by without modification as the O/A diameter is 799mm but beware this size spare needs deflating to fit underneath in the standard position. The 275/65 R18 will not fit underneath.

265/60 R18 is only 775mm O/A will not be an issue, standard rubber is approx 763mm O/A

[LandyAndy]

Only catch is Duratrac in 18s is 110 rated.. And not LT.

There's only one LT A/T out there - it's 114 rated.

Seen these big fella????
Duratrac 18 at Tire Rack (http://tires.tirerack.com/tires/Duratrac%2018)
Andrew

[JG337]

Thanks for all the great info. I've got a rear wheel carrier so no issues with the 275/285 in the spare wheel space.

Spend each winter playing on the Cape so LR fuel tank essential.

Funny about Cooper tyres - just about all reviews are a mix of 5/5 and 0 or 1/5. People either love em or hate em!

Cheers
JG

[LandyAndy]

Thanks for all the great info. I've got a rear wheel carrier so no issues with the 275/285 in the spare wheel space.

Spend each winter playing on the Cape so LR fuel tank essential.

Funny about Cooper tyres - just about all reviews are a mix of 5/5 and 0 or 1/5. People either love em or hate em!

Cheers
JG

I vowed never to buying them again after putting them on a D2,the tread blocks were cracking.They said it was exsesive off-road use possible abuse:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I really look after my gear so that really ****ed me off.
I did see a new set of the STT Pro tyres on a gutlux today,they are a nice looking tyre,just dont know if I could go back after having a bloody good run out of several different types of Wranglers.
Andrew

[Tombie]

Seen these big fella????

Duratrac 18 at Tire Rack (http://tires.tirerack.com/tires/Duratrac%2018)

Andrew



Yep...

See this:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/04/511.jpg

110S and not LT....

[Tombie]

Also to the OP if you tow, consider what larger rubber is doing to your gear ratios and torque band.

For normal use it won't be too noticeable but with a load on the back the bigger tyres will have the box hunting and the engine working on the outside of its torque band..

[LandyAndy]

Much more interested in this size,or the 275.
Goodyear?Wrangler DuraTrac (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp'tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+DuraTrac&partnum=665SR8WDT)
Andrew

[Brick]

Have been running the Cooper AT3 on the GOE rims on my D4 for several years. On my second set since late last year. I run two spares and rotate and rebalance around every 25,000kms. I got over 100,000kms out of the last set adhering to the above program. No issues with rubbing or wear. Have a 2.6t van I haul up north from time to time with no issues.

I am about to swap out the D4 (after a solid 220,000kms) for an RRS and seriously looking at if the GOE rims will fit. If so, will be keeping them and putting the OEM rims back on the D4 when I trade.

[LandyAndy]

If the rims dont fit Cameron,there is a good home here;););););).
I have At3s on my work ute at the moment,they were on there when we bought it,about worn out,unknown kms
Andrew

[scarry]

Only catch is Duratrac in 18s is 110 rated.. And not LT.

There's only one LT A/T out there - it's 114 rated.

Umm,there is also,

BFG KO2,A/T 265/65/18 LT 122 rated,and
BFG KO2 A/T 265/60/18 LT 119 rated.

Both sizes available locally

[Owen]

Yep, saving for the BFG next year , will finish the vehicle off perfectly

[Tombie]

Wouldn't fit BFG if you have them to me for free.

Every time I had BFG on a vehicle I've had nothing but problems.... Either chunking, cracking at base of tread, delaminating sidewall...

Ask LR JR about his recent blow out on a not so old BFG...

But good to see other makers taking on the size. [emoji41]

[Tombie]

Umm,there is also,

BFG KO2,A/T 265/65/18 LT 122 rated,and
BFG KO2 A/T 265/60/18 LT 119 rated.

Both sizes available locally



Was only talking 265-60-18 but thanks...

[~Rich~]

I've never liked the BFG AT, too square on the edge. For an AT not great on sand.

[Tombie]

Interestingly I went for a browse on a few sites for BFG KO2 reviews.

Incredible amount of negative reviews from
Tread wear being a lot faster than last model to very poor handling in wet...

Lots of "+25 year customer won't be buying again" feedback in the USA forums.


Have a few club members running them here so will keep in touch with what they think..

[scarry]

Wouldn't fit BFG if you have them to me for free.

Every time I had BFG on a vehicle I've had nothing but problems.... Either chunking, cracking at base of tread, delaminating sidewall...

Ask LR JR about his recent blow out on a not so old BFG...

But good to see other makers taking on the size. [emoji41]

The Defence force has had a few issues as well,which are under investigation,but my experience after having A few sets over the last12 yrs,and given them a hiding has been the exact opposite.

Some have had cracks at the base of the treads,but they were pretty worn and old by then and didn't seem to cause any issues.

Although they do chip badly on some roads as do many other brands.

The squareness of the tread reduces the bulging that can cause issues.I don't think the KO2 has as square as edge as the KO?
In sand with the D2 or the D4,I have never had an issue.

It would be good to hear some local reports on the KO2.

I have been putting off replacing mine that are shot,but will probably go with them again.

When you have had a good run,why change?



Just my two cents worth......:D

[scarry]

Interestingly I went for a browse on a few sites for BFG KO2 reviews.

Incredible amount of negative reviews from
Tread wear being a lot faster than last model to very poor handling in wet...

Lots of "+25 year customer won't be buying again" feedback in the USA forums.


Have a few club members running them here so will keep in touch with what they think..

Those reviews aren't worth a pinch of salt.

In fact if you look at the reviews about the Bridgestone A/T 697's,they are full of negativity as well,like driving on ice,worse tyres i have ever had,hopeless in the wet,out of round,etc,etc.

Maybe i will type in Land Rover and see what comes up :D;)

Bottom line is,they are full of garbage.

Real world experience is the best by far,such as reports from guys on here:)

Many on here run 697's and give them good reviews.
Many on here run BFG and give the same

As a comparison,many also run or have run the C brand and wouldn't go near them again

[LandyAndy]

Which brand do you recomend Tombie???
Andrew

[Tombie]

Agree Scarry - hence I'm watching with interest the local boys running them.

I do travel with some guys who run the Bridgestones and have for years and they're very happy... Several were BFG boys.

Only 2 guys in the club now run Cs... The rest all got away from them after big failures.

[Meken]

Nope GOE rims won't fit new RRS - ask Gordon about his RRS ;)

[kingo]

Hi, I have a new set of Cooper AT3 on my 2009 RRS and done 10000km so far. So far all ok no problems to report. Smooth, quiet and seem fine in the wet. They are 265/60/18 and fit is fine, no rubbing and spare fitted underneath albeit tight.

Have had many Coopers before and no complaints, last set did 100000kms, they were STC's and LT's, so I guess they will last longer than the AT3's.

Good luck

Andrew

[Blue C]

I've just fitted BFG KO2 265/60/18's on my GOE rims on my D4.I am happy to provide feedback for those interested after our 3 week trip up to the NT this July with both on and off road comments.Regards, David

[Aaron40]

Anyone running Toyo Open Country AT?

[TuffRR]

First proper run with my Cooper STT Pro's over the long weekend.
Very impressed with them off road. Made a climb that a Patrol on 35" Trepadors couldn't. Some on road noise, but pretty good considering they are a proper mud tyre.

[ramblingboy42]

Anyone running Toyo Open Country AT?

the local tyrepower dealer and his staff swear by them and recommend them to everyone looking for an AT tyre.

my next tyre though , will be the Khumo MT 51 , which is actually like a crossover AT/MT tyre., currently @ $300 on 265/75x16.

based on my experience with KL71 muddies which were just brilliant I'm going for the Kumho's again.

[LandyAndy]

First proper run with my Cooper STT Pro's over the long weekend.
Very impressed with them off road. Made a climb that a Patrol on 35" Trepadors couldn't. Some on road noise, but pretty good considering they are a proper mud tyre.


I saw a brand new set on a gutlux the other day,the words were still blue.I thought they looked pretty good.
What size????
I couldnt see and 18" to suit a D4 on the tyre site I looked at.
Andrew

[TuffRR]

I saw a brand new set on a gutlux the other day,the words were still blue.I thought they looked pretty good.
What size????
I couldnt see and 18" to suit a D4 on the tyre site I looked at.
Andrew

275/65/18.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/04/90.jpg

[LandyAndy]

I must have had an older listing as there were no 18" in that range:cool::cool::cool::cool: Any rubbing issues as yet?????
When I wear my OEM rubber out I will be going 18".
Let us all know how they go,good or bad please.VERY interested to hear how they handle soft dry powdery beach sand.
Thanks
Andrew

[TuffRR]

I must have had an older listing as there were no 18" in that range:cool::cool::cool::cool: Any rubbing issues as yet?????
When I wear my OEM rubber out I will be going 18".
Let us all know how they go,good or bad please.VERY interested to hear how they handle soft dry powdery beach sand.
Thanks
Andrew

Few rubbing issues which are slowly resolving themselves... :D

Biggest issue is rubbing on the front chassis 'horn'. Nothing to severe, but ideally would be good to resolve.

Other than that, just standard spots in rear wheel arch with heater hoses etc. This has been fixed though.

[~Rich~]

275/65/18.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/04/90.jpg

Looks like a snatch block and cable attached, didn't you quite make it up?
Look good though.

First 4wd run of my Hankooks MT's on the weekend for me too.
Review in 18" mud tyre thread.

[Melbourne Park]

test post and I will delete this post.

But I could not ...