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cols110
29th September 2005, 05:31 AM
Theroretically which would be best for a budget off roader, disco or rangie for the same price, both V8s with the same size tyres either 235/85s or 255/85s, nothing radical, just enough to be a good toy without breaking the bank.

I can`t see there being much in it, disco might have a bit more space and the RR would probably have a bit lower C of G, I`d imagine over hangs would be similar on a classic and S1 disco.

Any thoughts or ideas.

VladTepes
29th September 2005, 11:58 AM
I assume you've driven both ?
My impressions are:

:arrow: Disco has heaps more headroom which I LOVE. That's in fact the thing i dislike about the luxo-barge - not enough headroom for me coz ofd a bloody sunroof. What the hell do I need oen of THOSE for ?

:arrow: The Rangie feels more 'substantial' to me. The front of the Disco seems to 'come to a point' to an extent from the drivers seat where the rangie bonnet is nice and square and solid looking. Just an impression I get from the drivers seat. I feel 'safer' ina a Rangie. No doubt its not the case.

:arrow: The 235/85's will need some surgery to the guard on a Rangie I think. Dunno about a Disco. Probably at least a lift required.

:arrow: You can definitely, here at least, pick up a disco cheaper than a Rangie in equivalent condition. Or so it seems to me.

:arrow: Disco is better for thseo sitting in the back seat - better view for them so if you have kids its worth considering.

:arrow: At 'standard' ride height a Rangie will fit into many city car parks that a Disco won't. That, mainly, is how I ended up with a Rangie.

Really, when all is said and done, it comes down to which feels nicer to drive for YOU.

Hope these observations help.

seqfisho
29th September 2005, 12:42 PM
More Rangie based comp vehicles than discos


Most are very competitive too :wink:

p38arover
29th September 2005, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by cols110
I`d imagine over hangs would be similar on a classic and S1 disco.

A RR has a much longer rear overhang than a S1 Disco. The overhanf of a RR is pretty much the same as the SII Disco.

There may be more accessories for D1 than for RR (in Oz).

Ron

dungarover
29th September 2005, 01:08 PM
Rangie.

Pros- better balanced, softer spring rates (Discos are hardy sprung in comp.), more 'character' and cheaper to buy in equivilent spec, generally tougher than Discos IMO. Plus the 'mechano' nature of pre-86 Rangies they are rebuildable at home (remove one inner rusty panel and replace it with another style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif )

Cons- No diesel option, less common and going that way (how many 2 door Rangies do you see on the roads, sad isn't it :cry: ). Later ones have viscous cooupling and ABS which can be costly but times have canged and they are more economic alternatives and repairs.

Discos

Pros- Plenty to choose from, diesel option, good comfort factor compared to earlier Rangies. Parts are plentiful as well and good value for money like Rangies are, 7 seats for bigger families although the fold-up seats are bloody awful for big blokes like me :oops:

Cons- Stiff suspension especially with those bloody sway bars on, 'generic' feel, not as well balanced as a Rangie (roof is more than double the weight especially with the 'alpine' windows or whatever there bloody called), plenty of cheap and nasty plastic.

I've owned both. The Discos are a great vehicle, but Rangies have a better 'fell' about them off-road and on and as mentioned, better balanced off-road, where Thomas spends most of it's time :twisted:

It's a presonal prefernce and which one really suits you needs. Plenty of blokes have gone from Rangie to Disco and been more than happy with them, but other have owned them and made the same comments I had.

Good luck with it.

Trav

cols110
29th September 2005, 07:56 PM
Thanks all, interesting reading, the main reason I&#96;m asking is at the moment we are living in the UK, but are on the move to Dubai next Jan, and will be spending a lot more time back in Australia than we have been able to over the last few years. So far we have just been using hire cars when ever we come home, but with the price you can pick up a V8 disco or RR, we are thinking of buying one for when ever we come home. Both the RR and Disco fit the bill perfectly, cheap, can knock over a heap of miles in comfort as well as a good offroader. The cost of fuel is&#96;nt really an issue, as we&#96;ll only be using it for a month or two a year, thats why I&#96;m not interested in spending more money on a diesel.

As for the vehicles, no I&#96;ve never driven either, after 5 years of driving a 110, I&#96;ve never gotten around to driving a disco or RR. I actually prefer the look of the RR over the S1 disco, and it looks like a better offroad vehicle, but the disco does look a bit larger and more practical, and more readily available, with heaps of em on the market. So in all honesty I&#96;m not really fussed on which one ot get.

All I really want to do is give it a lift, big enough to accept larger tyres and a few other minor mods. I&#96;m not interested in tying up a heap of money in lockers etc, for a toy that&#96;ll only get used every now and then.

Thanks again for the info.

Maggot4x4
30th September 2005, 07:28 AM
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VladTepes
30th September 2005, 11:13 AM
For what its worth I reckon a lifted Rangie looks better than a lifted Disco - lift a Disco and it LOOKS really top heavy. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

loanrangie
30th September 2005, 11:20 AM
Rangies actually have more room in the back than a s1 disco even though the disco has a high roof .

dungarover
30th September 2005, 11:49 AM
Remember as good as Discos are, they're still a poor mans Rangie style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Trav

cols110
2nd October 2005, 12:45 AM
Thanks all, we&#96;re going to be in Vic and NSW over xmas new years, I&#96;m going to have a bit of a look around and see what comes up.

Who know the old man might end up with another toy in his shed to baby sit for us.

DirtyDawg
2nd October 2005, 07:30 PM
at $1.39 and up to $2 a litre by xmas.....any V8 would be a rough ask..
go a turbo diesel..gr8 economy...
I loved my Rangie when I had her and would have another if fuel wasn't so costly and the small V8's not the most economic to run...in my opinion.

cols110
3rd October 2005, 12:51 AM
Normally I&#96;d agree with you, but for a vehicle that will probably only get used for about 6 weeks a year, it would work out cheaper to pay the extra fuel costs and save a few grand on the initial purchase price. It seem that people are nearly giving the V8s away but the TDIs are still demanding good money.

seqfisho
3rd October 2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by aquarangie
Remember as good as Discos are, they're still a poor mans Rangie :)

Trav


Not at the current prices 8O style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

VladTepes
6th October 2005, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by cols110
people are nearly giving the V8s away

Who is :?: I'll take one.


Hands off my luxobarge - ain;t giving that to nobody !!!! :twisted:

dungarover
6th October 2005, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by VladTepes


Who is :?: I'll take one.


Hands off my luxobarge - ain;t giving that to nobody !!!! :twisted:

Becoming a Rangie man now Vlad style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

They do that, like heroin they are addictive and one can end up buying another and the defender may find itself out of place :x

Trav

VladTepes
6th October 2005, 03:58 PM
Mate the Defender will NEVER find itself out of place. (or fuel style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif )

dungarover
6th October 2005, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by VladTepes
Mate the Defender will NEVER find itself out of place. (or fuel :lol: :lol: :lol: )

So true, but after owning Rangies for 10 years, fuel isn't an issue and I am used to the crap economy style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Have you taken the 'Luxobarge' off-road yet, you will be surprised how good Ranmgie can match it with your defender at times.

Trav

VladTepes
6th October 2005, 04:21 PM
Well now I have the air suspension emergency kit thingy in, all I have to do is convice Michelle to let me 8O

I would like to take it some places but lack of space for bringing camping gear is an issue. Hmm, thinking,.,..thinking...

p38arover
6th October 2005, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by VladTepes
Well now I have the air suspension emergency kit thingy in, all I have to do is convice Michelle to let me 8O


Let you what? Is the emergency kit an inflatable doll?

Ron