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PLR
15th May 2016, 01:01 AM
G`day ,

we need to get another car and it`s not an easy task .

I am hoping someone with a petrol bmw 4.4 can tell me the distance they are able to generally get from a tank full , which i believe is 100ltrs .

Like between Sydney and Melbourne on the Hume how far can it get to the tank full , driven at the speed limit .

Around Town , Suburb , City , how far can it get on a tank full .

I understand this will go against the grain of some and ltrs /100 is the normal way of gauging it . I understand that ltrs/100 and the 100 ltrs will give an out come .

All i want is how far a tank full goes , this i have ease relating to how much money it will cost to get somewhere and tells me if it will be viable for us to own one .

Thanks , Peter .

Homestar
15th May 2016, 06:46 AM
On the freeway I would think around 700KM max for the petrol. I can get up to 1,000KM in the diesel if I let it run really low and I'm only doing freeway driving but I usually fill up way before then - there aren't many places where fuel is that far apart and I usually want to stop every 400 to 500KM for a break when driving the Rangie, but we did do Orange to Melbourne without stopping the other year. :angel:

It's the only vehicle I've ever had that is comfy enough to do these sort of KM in continuously. :)

rar110
15th May 2016, 09:45 AM
Did you know the facelift 2005 petrol V8 4.4 is a Jag motor (check engine code on car sales advert)? It's supposed to be even better. It also came with a ZF 6 speed. The ZF 6 speed must be good with the v8 as they kept it when the v8 5.0 na & sc came out in 2010, even though the diesel 4.4 got the ZF 8 speed.

PLR
15th May 2016, 07:30 PM
On the freeway I would think around 700KM max for the petrol. I can get up to 1,000KM in the diesel if I let it run really low and I'm only doing freeway driving but I usually fill up way before then - there aren't many places where fuel is that far apart and I usually want to stop every 400 to 500KM for a break when driving the Rangie, but we did do Orange to Melbourne without stopping the other year. :angel:

It's the only vehicle I've ever had that is comfy enough to do these sort of KM in continuously. :)

Thanks , have any idea of around town ?

We haven`t totally discounted a diesel , it all depends on the car and more so what has been done to it .

PLR
15th May 2016, 07:44 PM
Did you know the facelift 2005 petrol V8 4.4 is a Jag motor (check engine code on car sales advert)? It's supposed to be even better. It also came with a ZF 6 speed. The ZF 6 speed must be good with the v8 as they kept it when the v8 5.0 na & sc came out in 2010, even though the diesel 4.4 got the ZF 8 speed.

Thanks ,

i`d prefer the bmw because there are many of them and some of there problems i know and i know nothing about the Jag .

We had a look at X5s that have the tu? diesel , the update on the RR one with more power/torque they use the 6spd zf but unless they`re serviced early like the 5 spds they also seem to fail and then seems still no certainty .

I guess it`s the same auto as the RR but don`t know .

Homestar
15th May 2016, 07:51 PM
Thanks , have any idea of around town ?

We haven`t totally discounted a diesel , it all depends on the car and more so what has been done to it .

Overall consumption we have got from the diesel over 3 years and about 80,000KM is 11.2 litres per 100KM, so an average of just shy of 900KM per tank. Around town is about 13LPH.

Absolute figures for the V8 I don't have but around 14's overall and around 17's around town would be about right I think.

PLR
16th May 2016, 01:34 PM
G`day .

Are there any petrol owners that would like to comment about .....

Liters per 100 km for around town and distance that they normally fill up .

Liters per 100 km for highway and distance that they normally fill up .

Thanks .

p38arover
16th May 2016, 09:28 PM
My fuel figures l/100km 4.4 V8 BMW M62 back to when I bought it in December.

12.02 Highway 717km
14.42 Town/Hwy 583km

Average over the past 5001km(yes, that's what I've done since December) is 14.87 l/100km

justinc
16th May 2016, 10:07 PM
The 4.4 M62 can be a horror story if it has had poor maintenance or is above 250k. Timing chain and guide replacement is a huge job. If there is a failure in this area it is best to look for another engine 😮

Jc

PLR
16th May 2016, 10:38 PM
My fuel figures l/100km 4.4 V8 BMW M62 back to when I bought it in December.

12.02 Highway 717km
14.42 Town/Hwy 583km

Average over the past 5001km(yes, that's what I've done since December) is 14.87 l/100km

Thanks that`s very helpful .

One of these over 112km will cost us around an extra $2.60 over what either Classics on LPG will cost for the same 112km .

That`s working on $1.30 a litre .

The 112km is where a convenient fuel stop is when travelling to Melbourne .

I was more worried about the town figure .

We tend to do short or long trips and that`s why i think the petrol would be a better fit for us .

Hope this explains why i didn`t just want the l/100 figures .

PLR
16th May 2016, 11:22 PM
The 4.4 M62 can be a horror story if it has had poor maintenance or is above 250k. Timing chain and guide replacement is a huge job. If there is a failure in this area it is best to look for another engine ��

Jc

Thanks ,

yes , i did know about the guides , have heard of broken oil pump bolts too but not sure about that one and the vanos seals and solenoids and the plastic coolant connector at the back of the engine and the valley seal and i guess more .

Commodores chains probably has a higher failure rate but there may be more of them .

I`ve been looking at different makes because i consider the Classic type the only real Range Rover so felt if not a Classic i don`t have an allegiance .

These Range Rovers have their problem but when you do some searching so do most other makes , most of the others seem small ( size ) and don`t really compare .

If Subaru or Isuzu ever made Range Rovers that`s a car i`d buy .

We still have as a daily our 84/5 Range Rover which for over 20 years has needed to be maintained but never failed to proceed and people say they are not reliable , it did on one occasion have to tow the LSE we had for 10 yrs up until last month (also as a daily ) home because of a hose leak that occurred because of not getting around to fitting the new radiator hose , the hose only had a cut in it for about 18 mths but didn`t leak and being on lpg if they loose coolant they stop , so it was a know risk .

p38arover
17th May 2016, 07:10 AM
The 4.4 M62 can be a horror story if it has had poor maintenance or is above 250k. Timing chain and guide replacement is a huge job. If there is a failure in this area it is best to look for another engine ��

Jc

I've recently found out about this (and VANOS). Had I known before purchase, I wouldn't have bought one.

Grumbles
17th May 2016, 09:52 AM
I have spent some considerable time reading about the BMW powered Rangies. The one thing I couldn't find is a cost estimate of a drive in/drive out full Vanos repair/replacement - the do it once, do it right and never have to touch it again sort of thing.

One comment I read which struck me said he would lean heavily towards the Jag combo RR because of the valley pan, valve cover, VANOS, water pump (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=water+pump&_sacat=6000), and transmission issues associated with the BMW m62/zf combo.

I don't seem to be able to find much about the Jag engined RR and/or similar Vanos issues.:confused:

PLR
17th May 2016, 11:57 AM
I've recently found out about this (and VANOS). Had I known before purchase, I wouldn't have bought one.

What would you have bought instead or would you have kept what you had ?

Has the L322 not been what you expected or is not that much better/different to what you had ?

In their Buying Advice ,

Robisons say that if the oil is changed between every 12000km to 16000km ( converted ), these engines will last forever . ( pretty bold )

That was in 2012 so they were 10 yrs old then and in the US there will be more than here , i`d expect .