Looking for a new or newish D4

[rocmic]

Well the time has come, the D3 is no more :( If you want to see what happened, then look at the video Didge posted on the NSW Anzac Day weekend trip report. It shows the result of the incident.
I will post some pics and give some detail in that report tomorrow. Pics are at work.
Basically I can report that the cars are incredibly safe, but I definitely don't need to roll one again to make certain.
So now I am looking for a fairly new D4, any advice on particular issues with MY 14 to 16 would be very much appreciated.
Cheers
Mike

[SimmAus]

Hope it all worked out ok Mike; being able to walk away from that is an endorsement of the vehicles strength.
Good luck with the search for a replacement - that in itself can be fun!!

[~Rich~]

Glad you are ok, how & who recovered the D3?

[rocmic]

Hi Rich
It was a tow truck company at Nambucca Heads arranged by insurance. He needed to go out and assess one day and then come back the next with two trucks to get it out. He sent me some photos (that he took for the insurance company). The bill was high, but covered by insurance.
Pics now:
The lonely D3 as she ended up:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/384.jpg

A couple of the recovery setup:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/357.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/358.jpg

And up she comes:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/359.jpg

It was wet, steep and took him a while apparently.
I will post up more info on it in the trip report.
Cheers
Mike

[~Rich~]

Yeah I thought it may need some serious gear to get it out!
Did you just loose it on the corner?

Not worth buying the wreck, it's gone!

[rocmic]

No I didn't lose it on the corner. Unfortunately not that simple (and I would have to have been travelling way to fast).
A litany of issues. Basically we had just finished some driving including Jacobs Ladder and were on our way back to camp. Then engine fault, overheat. Cause is that apparently the ATF cooler blew, and then mixing of engine coolant and ATF. Probably understating it to say not good.
So we are on a National Parks road, can't leave it there and we needed to get it somewhere where we could leave it safely. The four of us MLD, Isuzutoo-eh, Geedublya and I thought about is and decided to to tow the D3 behind Geoff's D4.
It was going OK until we came to that bend, with a lovely tree right on the apex, as soon as the tow rope touched the tree I was gone, dragged straight over the edge and then it rolled a full 360 landing, against the trees in the picture, on its wheels.
You can see the offending tree in the picture below and Geoff's car just beyond it
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/356.jpg

You can also see the marks where my car went off the road and how it twisted as it rolled, ending up facing 90 degrees to the direction it went off the road.

Yes we definitely made some mistakes on the tow, and I think we have learned some good lessons, which hopefully we will never have to put in to practise.

So, we did get off the road and out of the way and I guess I have saved the cost of a new transmission.

Cheers
Mike

[LRD414]

That is sad to see Mike and glad you're ok. Surprised the towing D4 wasn't also pulled in to the gully. Must have been very scary to say the least. Would you need a shorter tow rope for that situation?

Anyway, hopefully a new/newish D4 will be the silver lining. There seems to be very few things wrong with the later MYs.

Regards,
Scott

[rocmic]

Yes one of our mistakes was rhe length of the tow rope. We went longer because we were a bit worried about downhill sections, I had the ignition on but no engine so braking was not good.

But in saying that a shorter one would possibly had the same problem.

And thinking about it the length of the tow rope may have been what saved Geoff's car, as I picked up momentum as I went over the edge, it very likely caused the load to be taken off momentarily slackening the rope. Perhaps if it was shorter there may have been no slack.
Cheers
Mike

[SBD4]

Mike, very sorry to hear of the sad tale. Glad you are OK and as Scott has said, it may have been a blessing in disguise! Bring on the D4!

[LandyAndy]

Sad end to what looked to be a nicely set up D3.
Nevermind,nobody injured,it can be replaced.
You will love the D4:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[jon3950]

Sorry to see that Mike. Looks like an easy mistake to make and a lesson for us all as to how easily things can go wrong. Glad no-one was hurt - if you're going to have an accident a D3/4 is a pretty good thing to do it in.

Good luck with finding a D4. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I found going from a D3 to a D4 a quantum leap in many ways, which I didn't expect.

Cheers,
Jon

[Stuart02]

How do you feel about taking my car for a drive??? It's well insured :D

Just kidding. I'll sort it out.

Good luck with the hunt. I never had the joy of the hunt with our first of the breed, as the wife climbed out of her mini into the first D4 she'd ever seen close up and drove about 400m before saying she loved it and was buying it!

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[Russrobe]

Ah know all too well how this feels. At least you owned the D3 for longer than a week. Glad we ended up with a D4 now though!

[rocmic]

Not looking any more :D New toy will be picked up this afternoon. Looking forward to the return of the permagrin.
Pictures etc will be posted when I am able to take some nice photos.
Cheers
Mike

[LandyAndy]

Not looking any more :D New toy will be picked up this afternoon. Looking forward to the return of the permagrin.
Pictures etc will be posted when I am able to take some nice photos.
Cheers
Mike

WAITING,HURRY UP,WAITING,HURRY UP,WAITING,HURRY UP............
ENJOY:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[LRD414]

Not looking any more. New toy will be picked up this afternoon.

You move fast Mike. Can you transfer any of the accessories from the D3? Not sure if that's cost effective.

Scott

[LandyAndy]

I bet you love that 8 speed already;););););););)
Andrew

[Meken]

Pics or it didn't happen

[sheerluck]

Not looking any more :D New toy will be picked up this afternoon. Looking forward to the return of the permagrin.
Pictures etc will be posted when I am able to take some nice photos.
Cheers
Mike

Come on Mike, you've had nearly 9 and a half hours! Surely you must have managed a decent photo in that time!

[rocmic]

Pics not possible today, left dealer at 4:30pm, got home at 6:10pm. Too dark. Sydney traffic covered a whole 34km in that time.
Not that I cared cos it was soooo noice😄😄😄.
There will be be pics in the show us sticky either tomorrow or Thursday. Can't wait to take it for a shake down drive on the weekend. Off-road will have to wait though.
Cheers
Mike

[rocmic]

Not that fast, been talking and viewing for a few weeks, but this one appeared and was at the right price over the weekend. Then I moved fast��
As far as accessories go:, bullbar had taken a hit and won't be suitable for D4, nor dual battery, cargo barrier after accident is compromised as far as I am concerned, snorkel was no name and probably took a hit on the roll over. LLAMS would be OK but the car is too far away for me to go and get it out. As for the long range tank, there was some diesel leakage after she rolled, may have been the hose connecting the auxiliary to the main, but since I can't get up there right now, I don't know. Again could be compromised (although unlikely).

Snorkel, rear wheel carrier and slider/stand off bars were part of insured value.

I will start with a clean slate and go new. Might also add GOE 18s when the OEM wranglers start to go.

Basically the fun of determining what i need etc.

I am thinking of spending the money on a plastic wrap. They are quite effective and the D3 was incredibly pinstriped, might be worth paying for some protection. I am open to any suggestions on this subject.

Cheers
Mike


You move fast Mike. Can you transfer any of the accessories from the D3? Not sure if that's cost effective.

Scott

[LRD414]

I will start with a clean slate and go new .... Basically the fun of determining what i need etc.
Totally agree with this, it's one of the best things.


I am thinking of spending the money on a plastic wrap .... I am open to any suggestions on this subject.
<This thread> (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/205107-paint-protection-film-has-anyone-used.html) has a few wrap options as well as the temporary paint-on products for pin-striping protection.

I have had the rear wheel arch flares wrapped to protect against stone damage for $150.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/743.jpg

They stock and use both 3M and Avery products but recommended a different product as the best for a clear protective film.
Hexis Skintac HX20000
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/742.jpg

Apparently it lasts longer and is able to self-heal to some extent. I was told that most scratches in the film can be removed with the application of hot water but that is unproven at this stage.
However, I have removed some light pin-striping scratches with polish when polishing the whole car and they disappeared from the wrap. I know not the same as a full wrap but does inspire some confidence.

It is virtually invisible once applied unless you look very closely.

Scott

[Meken]

Maybe if the D3 had a wrap you might still be driving it ? [emoji13]

[Fluids]

Hey Mike! Bit late to the party ... only just caught up on the loss of the D3. Wow, could have been a lot worse. Glad you're OK!

Good campfire yarn :)

Good luck with the new toy !!

[rocmic]

G'day Kev,
Yeah a good camp fire yarn. Definitely not keen to repeat it just to prove it can happen. I think my daughter said it all once she had digested the pictures.
"If Mum was still alive she wouldn't talk to you for week. Shout and swear at you, but not talk."

The new toy is very nice :D
Cheers
Mike

[LandyAndy]

Anybody good with cutting polish??? Should buff out:wasntme::wasntme::wasntme:
01/08, Land Rover, Discovery 3, Wagon - Pickles Auctions Australia (http://www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/-/details/CP-01-08--Land-Rover--Discovery-3--Wagon/2002768213)
Andrew

[sheerluck]

Mike, was it just the tranny that was shot? Or did it have other mechanical issues as well?

[LandyAndy]

Some nice bits on that if it goes cheap.
He did say the tranny cooler blew mixing oil/coolant.This is common on BA/BF falcons,if it isnt driven MUCH after its a clean oil/flush/clean oil and all is good.If its driven alot it does stuff the tranny.Given the problem occured on the day the tranny may well be OK.
Andrew

[sheerluck]

LandyAndy, I've got someone who's looking for an engine and tranny. I personally wouldn't take the chance on that transmission, with nearly 200k on it, and a gut full of coolant.

But, there's a few other bits on there that may be worth a shot. ;)

[rocmic]

No, there were no other mechanical issues. 199,500 kmon the clock and running well. Then bang the cooler blew. It is not a common issue, but has been known to happen. I would have been up for new/rebuild tranny - about $7000. I could have lived with that - loved the car
Cheers
Mike


Mike, was it just the tranny that was shot? Or did it have other mechanical issues as well?

[rocmic]

Hi Andrew,
The car did not like it at all. No real warning. Cease to function and high temperature warning.
I think that this is a design problem. If the tranny cooler goes, then you are cactus because the ATF cooler is integrated with the radiator. It is not common problem, but has been known to happen.

I am assuming I would have needed a transmission rebuild/ new one. I don'tknow for sure.

That was the problem that caused us to tow. As far as I am concerned the bits added on we're probably compromised after the roll over.

The LLAMS would have been OK, but too far away for me to remove.
The Bull bar looks bent, can't believe that is the chassis.
The cargo barrier is compromised since it was there in the roll over.
The Traxide system is as per LLAMS, so I can't do much.
Rock sliders were old and possibly compromised on passenger side.
Snorkel possibly compromised
Long range tank, probably OK, but there was a diesel leak, probably the hose that joins the two tanks together, but again I won't go back to that tank just in case it is compromised
So there it is.
Probably a number of accessories would be OK, buut would I trust them with my life?
No
Cheers
Mike


[/QUOTE=LandyAndy;2540606]Some nice bits on that if it goes cheap.
He did say the tranny cooler blew mixing oil/coolant.This is common on BA/BF falcons,if it isnt driven MUCH after its a clean oil/flush/clean oil and all is good.If its driven alot it does stuff the tranny.Given the problem occured on the day the tranny may well be OK.
Andrew[/QUOTE]

[LandyAndy]

Cheers.
My bro is looking at buying a couple of cheapies to build a good one from,being eastern states makes it harder too.
He almost had a crack at Russrobes V8 as Pickles is next to where he works,decided he really wants a diesel.
Andrew

[rocmic]

Andrew,
My guess is that LLAMS is good, Rear wheel carrier is good, Traxide is good.
Bull bar maybe Ok, mounting bolts or mounting point on left side may be bad.
Snorkel was a no name and my be OK depending on the last part of the roll, there might have been no impact on it. Fuel tank probably good.
I doubt whether the new component price of those items would exceed the scrap price of the car as is.
So from a component point of view not a worthwhile buy.
Better to try and buy the bits from the wrecker.
Cheers
Mike