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ghoti
24th May 2016, 07:45 AM
Greetings,
Just wondering if there is a "DIY" path for updating the Sat Nav? My vehicle is a 2010 D4 TDV6 HSE.
Whereis used to sell DVD's for the purpose (last price was $275, but no longer available). I understand sometime during 2010 Land Rover converted to a hard-disk drive unit and Dealer-only updates are possible.
Has anyone updated their HDD style Sat Nav as a DIY ?
Cheers,
Scott
Celtoid
24th May 2016, 09:06 AM
Greetings,
Just wondering if there is a "DIY" path for updating the Sat Nav? My vehicle is a 2010 D4 TDV6 HSE.
Whereis used to sell DVD's for the purpose (last price was $275, but no longer available). I understand sometime during 2010 Land Rover converted to a hard-disk drive unit and Dealer-only updates are possible.
Has anyone updated their HDD style Sat Nav as a DIY ?
Cheers,
Scott
I had a AUG 2009 build MY10 (first batch off the boat apparently) and it was dealer only update. I'm unsure if you are now able to update via disc but you certainly couldn't in the earlier models.
laughto
24th May 2016, 09:11 AM
Umm, still works fine for MY2012 and onward via the purchasable DVD. Recently updated my MY2015 without issue.
My guess is that the latest version for prior vehicles will require a firmware upgrade and a trip (and probably cost) back to a dealer to do. A Garmin/Navman/TomTom may be a cheaper, and probably better option. I have not been overly impressed with the LR Nav system supplied here - very basic. No speed limits displayed, frequently takes incorrect routes, no traffic info available (needs license LR are obviously not prepared to pay) etc etc.
Lukeis
24th May 2016, 09:33 AM
not displaying the speed limits kills me..
I specifically wanted the D4 with the larger screen but had i known how bad the GPS was I would have been happy to settle for the non sat nav version and buy a garmin.
Good to know the upgrade doesn't have limits either, you just saved me a few $$. thank you.
LRD414
24th May 2016, 10:06 AM
Umm, still works fine for MY2012 and onward via the purchasable DVD. Recently updated my MY2015 without issue.
Where did you get the DVD and how much please?
Scott
letherm
24th May 2016, 12:57 PM
Hi.
Previous thread as well as link to LR/Whereis site etc.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/201611-updating-satnav-maps-my12-2.html
https://landrover.navshop.com.au/shopcustadmin.asp
https://landrover.navshop.com.au/default.asp
https://landrover.navshop.com.au/shopcontent.asp
HTH.
Martin
rhinosm
24th May 2016, 07:53 PM
I too am really disappointed with D4 Nav system.
No speed limits, etc, it's very basic.
Coming from a late model commodore, you notice the difference.
Vin
LandyAndy
24th May 2016, 08:05 PM
I saved $3000 when I got my D4,wasnt interested in a poor system that couldnt match my TomTom.He died so Im now sans nav,he can be replaced for less than $200!!!!
Andrew
Meken
24th May 2016, 08:29 PM
No need for Tom ... My iphone tells me when I walk out the door in the morning how long it'll take me to get to the office including traffic conditions - and that's the locked phone without any interaction from me - simply leaving the house with it in my pocket and up pops the update [emoji50] not sure if I like this level of integration with my phone
LandyAndy
24th May 2016, 08:32 PM
Only just upgraded to a Samsung smart phone and tablet.
Yet to learn all that stuff.
Andrew
ghoti
25th May 2016, 07:38 AM
Hi.
Previous thread as well as link to LR/Whereis site etc.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/201611-updating-satnav-maps-my12-2.html
https://landrover.navshop.com.au/shopcustadmin.asp
https://landrover.navshop.com.au/default.asp
https://landrover.navshop.com.au/shopcontent.asp
HTH.
Martin
Thanks Martin
That site says now only available from Land Rover dealers. Land Rover in Port Melbourne only charged $275 for the upgrade...same price as the disc so I guess all good.
Cheers,
Scott
SBD4
25th May 2016, 07:41 AM
Just note that it is not the nav system itself that is basic. It is capable of all that your are wanting, it is just that LR Australia refuse to pay the licensing fee to access the system here in Australia. The company that provides those services here in Oz is SUNA.
MY 10-11 must be updated by CD and can only be done by the dealer. Later systems can by updated by the user.
letherm
25th May 2016, 04:03 PM
Thanks Martin
That site says now only available from Land Rover dealers. Land Rover in Port Melbourne only charged $275 for the upgrade...same price as the disc so I guess all good.
Cheers,
Scott
Do you know what year the update was up to? I could never tell from looking at the site as it just had a number not a year.
Martin
ghoti
25th May 2016, 10:32 PM
Do you know what year the update was up to? I could never tell from looking at the site as it just had a number not a year.
Martin
Unfortunately I didn't think to ask them Martin :(
Michael2
9th November 2017, 08:56 PM
I see that most of this discussion is for pre-2013 models.
I just purchased a 2013 HSE D4 and I noticed that Land Rover sell the updated maps CD for $200.
I have a couple of questions in case anyone should know :
(1) Can I use the CD on more than one vehicle? It's too expensive, but I have a couple of mates with 2013 models, so if it's a 'club' purchase it might be worthwhile.
(2) Is the map quality any better, not just updated, but zoom functions and resolution?
(3) Is the voice command system updated?
In the meantime, I'll just have to use the phone.
letherm
9th November 2017, 11:18 PM
(1) Can I use the CD on more than one vehicle? It's too expensive, but I have a couple of mates with 2013 models, so if it's a 'club' purchase it might be worthwhile. Sorry , I don't know but it would seem feasible I suppose.
(2) Is the map quality any better, not just updated, but zoom functions and resolution? See the link below from the web site. No mention of anything other than road updates.
(3) Is the voice command system updated? .See comment 2
In the meantime, I'll just have to use the phone.
Land Rover Australia - In-car GPS Upgrades for Australia and New Zealand - powered by Whereis® maps (https://landrover.navshop.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=37)
I have had the same model as you since new. Bought in November 2013 and have not updated it. I considered doing so a few months ago but decided against it.
Reasons are:
1. Whilst a competent sat nav there are a lot of better one out there.
2. $200 is way overpriced for what is an already out of date update.
3. No modern feature set - traffic, red lights, speed zones, school zones etc..
4. Not as easy to use as other sat navs or phones.
Bottom line is that I decided to buy a Garmin Drive Smart 61 LMT-S. It has wifi updates for operating system and maps and connects to my phone for traffic updates etc. - uses very little data. Lifetime updates included. Much better screen and content. Did I mention lifetime updates for free. This was a top of the line model and whilst costing more than the LR update I end up with an up to date device with live updates etc. Yes, I would prefer the in dash system but to me the Garmin is so much better. I have it sitting attached to the windscreen with its bottom edge sitting on the dash just to the left of the instrument binnacle. To me it is very easy to see and IMO you don't have to look as far to see it compared to the in dash setup. I still have my phone connected to the LR for phone calls etc as I prefer the sound of the phone through the LR system rather than the Garmin speaker. You can connect the Garmin for hands free phone use too and it will call contacts, read out text messages etc.. There can be a minimal amount of reflection on it's screen but I tilt the screen forward slightly and this eliminates 95% of it. I have the same problem with the in dash system at various times so i don't see this as a negative.
HTH
Martin
remoman
10th November 2017, 07:27 AM
I just had these guys install a 7" android screen with rev camera in my D4 2010.
Very happy with it.
NAVIPLUS. COM.AU. (http://www.naviplus.com.au/online-store/Land-Range-Rover-Audio-Integrated-GPS-Navigation-System-c18287003)
geoffmc
10th November 2017, 08:31 PM
Has anyone used these guys?
Advanced ICE (http://advancedice.com.au/advancedsearch/index/searchresult/'manufacturer_id=15&car_model_id=174&parent_category_id=)
cheers
Geoff
Goku
11th December 2017, 10:09 PM
Has anyone used these guys?
Advanced ICE (http://advancedice.com.au/advancedsearch/index/searchresult/'manufacturer_id=15&car_model_id=174&parent_category_id=)
cheers
Geoff
Have used one of these for twelve months with no issues. Updates are easy to do
Cheers
Colin
Michael2
11th December 2017, 11:34 PM
I just had these guys install a 7" android screen with rev camera in my D4 2010.
Very happy with it.
NAVIPLUS. COM.AU. (http://www.naviplus.com.au/online-store/Land-Range-Rover-Audio-Integrated-GPS-Navigation-System-c18287003)
Can the Naviplus system mirror your phone?
Do you know how much memory it has?
I suppose with the Naviplus screen you can have the GoPro remote control app and use it to control an externally mounted GoPro.
edit - don't worry, just found this from the same manufacturer, $450 cheaper and it will mirror the phone. I think I'll give them a call tomorrow.
NAVIPLUS. COM.AU. (http://www.naviplus.com.au/landrover-lr3-mirrorlink--airplay-upgra)
gandalf
12th December 2017, 12:56 PM
The last update disc I got was a Toyota branded one.
Same DVD drive unit used by Land Rover and works perfectly, and still shows the Land Rover logo on startup
tonyci
28th December 2017, 03:45 PM
I just updated my Sat Nav with the Land Rover branded disc as per the link in a previous post.
Just a word of warning to anybody thinking of doing this, the upload time for the maps to update is just over an hour.
Cheers
Tony
winglen
28th December 2017, 04:20 PM
I just updated my Sat Nav with the Land Rover branded disc as per the link in a previous post.
Just a word of warning to anybody thinking of doing this, the upload time for the maps to update is just over an hour.
Cheers
Tony
Mine was about 45mins and I note it was clever enough to pick up where it left off on car restart.
kero
29th December 2017, 09:48 AM
Mine was about 45mins and I note it was clever enough to pick up where it left off on car restart.
How much did it cost? The daughter has a 2012 Evoqe and I have 2013 D4
Thanks. Kero
winglen
29th December 2017, 11:06 AM
How much did it cost? The daughter has a 2012 Evoqe and I have 2013 D4
Thanks. Kero
https://landrover.navshop.com.au/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=44&cat=Land+Rover+Discovery
But pretty sure each copy is coded to a VIN.
DieselLSE
29th December 2017, 11:55 AM
Note that the latest version is Land Rover - Australia 22/11 HDD Update and is dated 2015. It costs about $210 shipped and is locked to your VIN, so can't be used on any other vehicle. It takes about an hour to load and the engine needs to be running, so I'd do the upgrade when starting on a longish trip (as long as you already know the way!). I loaded mine mid 2017 and it was already woefully out of date. It would be better if you can wait for the next release.
Others here prefer using their smartphone and Google Maps.
letherm
29th December 2017, 12:28 PM
Note that the latest version is Land Rover - Australia 22/11 HDD Update and is dated 2015. It costs about $210 shipped and is locked to your VIN, so can't be used on any other vehicle. It takes about an hour to load and the engine needs to be running, so I'd do the upgrade when starting on a longish trip (as long as you already know the way!). I loaded mine mid 2017 and it was already woefully out of date. It would be better if you can wait for the next release.
Others here prefer using their smartphone and Google Maps.
This is the main reason that I decided not to update the oem sat nav but rather buy a Garmin as per my earlier post. It really is atrocious that LR don't provide a better service for this side of their product. I was given a Range Rover and then a D5 as loan cars recently and LR seem to have a better sat nav now. Maybe they have come to realise at the price of these cars come they deserve a sat nav at least equal to what you get in everyday "ordinary" cars.
Martin
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