View Full Version : Hard gear changes
Anthony Violi
25th May 2016, 05:44 PM
Gears change rather smoothly in normal mode. However when I transfer to 4wd gear changes are hard and clunk. Is there a way I can fix this?
TheTree
25th May 2016, 08:32 PM
Do you mean when you go into low range?
What year is your beastie?
Anthony Violi
26th May 2016, 07:18 AM
Yes in low range, gear changes are hard and loud. My beast is a 1995 4.6 Gems.
TheTree
26th May 2016, 07:23 AM
I have a 96 model and have never noticed that, i'll check it next time I am in low range
I did however find in RAVE that adjustment of the throttle cable is critical to the correct operation of the gearbox, so it may be worth looking at that
Steve
PhilipA
26th May 2016, 08:04 AM
Yes in low range, gear changes are hard and loud. My beast is a 1995 4.6 Gems.
I can't comment on 38A but in a Classic this is quite common and normal due to the extra leverage of the engine in low ratio. I feel it would be the same in a 38A. The 1/2 and 2/3 particularly as they are lower than 1 in high ratio.
In many different makes auto low ratios are higher than manuals because of this .
Regards Philip A
Anthony Violi
28th May 2016, 04:26 PM
Thanks for the tips gents. I will have a play. Sounds like hard gear changes are common in low range.
FANTOM P38
2nd June 2016, 09:58 PM
Maybe you should bring it along to winter wombat if you can & jump in another P38 to compare but never felt such difference in mine.
TheTree
3rd June 2016, 06:48 AM
Maybe you should bring it along to winter wombat if you can & jump in another P38 to compare but never felt such difference in mine.
What and where is this Wombat you speak of ? :)
benji
4th June 2016, 08:51 PM
It's on the trip planning section.
The Wombat s.f is just outside of Ballan, I'm going to try and make the effort to get down there on the Saturday. ... to cold to camp with the little one.
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Phillip1978
29th June 2024, 08:10 PM
Hi Fantom p38
I am new to the forum and I have a question regarding gear changes
I just test drove a p38 however I noticed exactly the same issue you had in your post from 2016.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/236309-hard-gear-changes.html#post2541790
Like in your post, the car does not clunk in high range, changes gear are smooth and all speeds.
However in low range the gear changes clunk. Is it true as mentioned in the responses that this is normal? Or is this an issue, and if so did you resolve yours?
Regards
Phil
shack
29th June 2024, 09:38 PM
Hi Fantom p38
I am new to the forum and I have a question regarding gear changes
I just test drove a p38 however I noticed exactly the same issue you had in your post from 2016.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/236309-hard-gear-changes.html#post2541790
Like in your post, the car does not clunk in high range, changes gear are smooth and all speeds.
However in low range the gear changes clunk. Is it true as mentioned in the responses that this is normal? Or is this an issue, and if so did you resolve yours?
Regards
PhilWhat year p38? IE Motronic or Gems?
Phillip1978
30th June 2024, 03:49 AM
What year p38? IE Motronic or Gems?
1997 gems 4.6
shack
30th June 2024, 05:29 PM
1997 gems 4.6I haven't done any work with the TCU or engine management stuff on the older systems.
What I can tell you is that harsh low range gear changes on the later P38 and D2 with the 4HP22 and 4HP24 is perfectly normal.
A number of maps controlling the shift in low range seen to be designed for quick changes with little detorque and shift pressure modulation.
So it may be fine... I'd suggest it was to try and replicate semi "manual box" performance in low speed off road situations.
prelude
30th June 2024, 05:52 PM
perfectly normal,
My GEMS had it on the old box as well. The new box also clunks in high, that is more worrying :)
Cheers,
-P
Phillip1978
30th June 2024, 06:05 PM
Thanks guys much appreciated with the quick responses.
I thought I bought a dud.
Otherwise the car is in fantastic shape and runs brilliantly.
So stoked. [biggrin]
shack
30th June 2024, 06:14 PM
perfectly normal,
My GEMS had it on the old box as well. The new box also clunks in high, that is more worrying :)
Cheers,
-PYes, that's not ideal..
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