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Bohica
30th May 2016, 08:10 PM
I noticed today a trickling of water sound when I've turned the heater on. I know that this is air in the cooling system.
The issue is what to do about it.
As the car was repaired, head fixed, radiator flushed by Ritter, can I get them to bleed the cooling system? BTW they fixed this car on August 22nd 2015. I did hear a faint trickle noise a month or so after that but it stopped.
So will Ritter fix under warranty? or is the time too long?
Or do I do it myself, which seems a royal pain in the arse
Or pay Ritter to bleed the system?
or a closer independent Landy mechanic?
or just leave the heater turned off :p

The car is not losing coolant, it gets checked weekly along with the oil In any case, up at Echuca in Jan 2016 when the outside temp was 39 or 40 C the coolant temp, via my Nanocom, ranged between 89 and 93 in a car park, parked, i.e. stationary with the air-con on and the engine running.


Thanks

Julian

rangieman
30th May 2016, 09:12 PM
Umm what is so hard about bleeding a Td5:confused::wallbash:

discorevy
30th May 2016, 09:54 PM
Bleeding the cooling system is very easy , thing is if it was air in the system it would do it without turning the heater on as there is no tap to stop the coolant flowing regardless of heater status , are you sure its not leaves / foreign body in the blower fan ?, if it is , its another easy job .

loanrangie
30th May 2016, 09:59 PM
I can imagine Ritter's response after nearly a year .

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Bohica
31st May 2016, 08:17 AM
Umm what is so hard about bleeding a Td5:confused::wallbash:

Not done it before, nervous about breaking the reservoir or something else. A couple of horror stories I read.
Like a lot of things once you've done it once, it is easyish. Doing it once is a hurdle at times.
I'm good at changing the oil in the R380, I've done that three times.

Bohica
31st May 2016, 08:28 AM
Bleeding the cooling system is very easy , thing is if it was air in the system it would do it without turning the heater on as there is no tap to stop the coolant flowing regardless of heater status , are you sure its not leaves / foreign body in the blower fan ?, if it is , its another easy job .

As the sound only occurs when set to defrost I guess that it is leaves or fod in the blower fan. I have the HVAC set on auto, so the fan only blows hard after the temp goes up. Which I thought was due to (Non existant) the water flow valve opening.

Thanks

Julian

Roverlord off road spares
31st May 2016, 09:14 AM
your have a lot bad luck with the D2.:(

alien
31st May 2016, 09:25 AM
As the sound only occurs when set to defrost I guess that it is leaves or fod in the blower fan. I have the HVAC set on auto, so the fan only blows hard after the temp goes up. Which I thought was due to (Non existant) the water flow valve opening.

Thanks

Julian
Easy to drop the fan out to check.
In the left foot well drop the cover under the dash(bellow the glove box).
3 bolts from memory and the power lead and it should wiggle out.

Bohica
31st May 2016, 12:53 PM
your have a lot bad luck with the D2.:(

Not really, I've gone from a "bleed the cooling system" which I've never done before to a "Remove the HVAC Blower" which I've never done before.:) Except that the car can run without a heater and If I bugger the bleed screw, which is possible I have no car until it get fixed. Unlikley as the top hose and bleed screw are new but you never know.

All the other bits and pieces, well the car is 13 years, 7 months old. Stuff will need replacing and repairing. I knew that when I bought the car, the same applies to any car that old. I think that I have a 4wd that looks better than a Pajero or a Toyota and is a very capable 4wd to boot.

Cheers

Julian

Eevo
31st May 2016, 01:40 PM
chances are the mechanic bleed it, but not with the heater on.
this makes a big difference.

bleeding at home is easy, just make sure the heater is on full while you do it.

Aaron IIA
31st May 2016, 02:36 PM
Bleeding the cooling system is very easy , thing is if it was air in the system it would do it without turning the heater on as there is no tap to stop the coolant flowing regardless of heater status


chances are the mechanic bleed it, but not with the heater on.
this makes a big difference.

bleeding at home is easy, just make sure the heater is on full while you do it.

Is there a valve in the heater water line, or a dampner in front of the heater core? If the D2 is the same as the D1, there is no valve in the heater line. Therefore it would make no difference whether the heater was on or off.

Aaron

Eevo
31st May 2016, 02:57 PM
every time i forgot to turn the heater on, i always get the trickling water and have to rebleed after.

PhilipA
31st May 2016, 02:58 PM
DITTO.

In any case if you are worried about breaking your header tank, just stick a coke bottle cut off in the filler to get the level above the bleed.

But really it is just a matter of giving the back of the header a yank upwards then slip it backwards out of the retaining tags at the front and then lift it.

Regards Philip A

discorevy
31st May 2016, 10:41 PM
Is there a valve in the heater water line, or a dampner in front of the heater core? If the D2 is the same as the D1, there is no valve in the heater line. Therefore it would make no difference whether the heater was on or off.

Aaron

No , no valve or dampner , there may be a
Placebo
Induced
Suction
Sensor. or a
Technical
Alternating
Kaleidoscope
Encoder. buried somewhere under the dash , but I'm yet to find either

Aaron IIA
1st June 2016, 06:49 AM
No , no valve or dampner , there may be a
Placebo
Induced
Suction
Sensor. or a
Technical
Alternating
Kaleidoscope
Encoder. buried somewhere under the dash , but I'm yet to find either

I must have been misunderstood if you are suggesting that there is a ****take under the dash, so I will ask again. Is there a valve to interrupt the flow of hot water through the heater core, or a dampner to interrupt the flow of air through the heater core?

Aaron

discorevy
1st June 2016, 08:27 AM
Air flaps x2 attached to motors for the heater core , so no it doesn't make a difference but there's no harm done if people want to turn there heater on for a placebo effect , and no harm intended if I want to take the **** :D ,

Fluids
1st June 2016, 09:09 AM
No. No heater valve or restrictor on the heater hose circuit ... it's a full flow constant recirculation.

schuy1
2nd June 2016, 05:38 PM
Just to make it clear as to what Fluids said- THERE IS NO COOLANT TAP or VALVE WHATSOEVER in a D2 heater system or in most other modern Landrovers. They all use a FULL flow system for faster heat up of the passenger compartment .
Sorry, but those of you that say otherwise should know better.