JUST PURCHASED SERIES 1: 1958 109 UTE

[TinTin]

Hi everyone,
Newbie just got registered to the forum. I have purchased a 1958 109 LR. It is in very good running order, the main thing I would like to do is remove the rear tray and fit an original 'tub'. I'm sure these will be hard to locate, but that will bring the body up to original.
I noticed when I first went to look, it didn't have a side valve engine, but thought that the year being close to the series 2 there might have been some 2 litre ohv engines fitted in CKD kits to Oz. however, this is not the case and I have found from the engine serial number, it is a 1970's series 3 engine. so for now I will get this running properly and source a 2 ltr side valve down the track.

Q: does anyone know the whereabouts of a 107/109 tub?:confused:
I'm WA based.

TinTin

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Hi TinTin:D
Welcome to AULRO.COM!

any Pics of the new one?:angel:

[Don 130]

Welcome to the forum Tin tin. Pictures of your 'new' S1 would be nice.:)
Don.

[Dark61]

welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing the pictures.
cheers,
D

[mark_coffey]

ive got a 109 tub on a truck i'm wrecking for the driveline but its in Wilmington South Australia

[TinTin]

Thanks for all the welcome messages guys. I will get some photos on when I work out how;). I don't actually pick her up until July as we are away and so is the previous owner.
Mark, I would be interested in the tub you have. Is it in good nick? Logistics is a bit of an issue, but sure we could work it out.
Is there a place you would recommend for S1 parts?

Cheers, Tin

[Dark61]

with the photo's - click on the paper clip above , browse - go to the pic you want to upload and double click and then wait for upload to finish.


cheers,
D

[digger]

I assume you will call the car "snowy"? :)

[TinTin]

thanks Dark side,

Pics uploaded.

Digger, I'm calling her 'Roger' who is previous owner.

Hi Mar Coffey, hope you picked up my message opn photo's of 'tub'?

cheers,

Tin

[JDNSW]

Hi everyone,
Newbie just got registered to the forum. I have purchased a 1958 109 LR. It is in very good running order, the main thing I would like to do is remove the rear tray and fit an original 'tub'. I'm sure these will be hard to locate, but that will bring the body up to original.
I noticed when I first went to look, it didn't have a side valve engine, but thought that the year being close to the series 2 there might have been some 2 litre ohv engines fitted in CKD kits to Oz. however, this is not the case and I have found from the engine serial number, it is a 1970's series 3 engine. so for now I will get this running properly and source a 2 ltr side valve down the track.

Q: does anyone know the whereabouts of a 107/109 tub?:confused:
I'm WA based.

TinTin

This would have originally had either a 2.0 litre overhead inlet/side exhaust (IOE) petrol engine, or a 2.0 litre overhead valve diesel. Rover never made a 2.0 litre overhead valve petrol. And I don't think Rover has made a side valve engine since the 1920s, although the IOE engine is sometimes incorrectly referred to as such.

The IOE engine continued in 1958 Series 2 88s, with 109s getting the new 2.25 litre overhead valve petrol engine, which was also in the 88s for 1959. Both wheelbases had the option of the same diesel as Series 1. This was enlarged to 2.25 litres with the Series 2a in 1961.

These engines continued through Series 3, with the 2.6 litre IOE six introduced in 1967 as an option, and the 3.5 litre V8 as an additional option in 1979 (with continual changes to the engines, mostly fairly minor and parts interchangeable until the fours went to five main bearings in late Series 3 production.)

Many Series 1 lwbs (107 & 109) had the tubs replaced with flat trays, basically because, to put it bluntly, they were far too flimsy. Your odds of finding one in restorable condition would be pretty slim, but you never know until you try!

Hope this helps,

John

[TinTin]

Hi John,

thanks for the detailed info on engines.
I was also pretty sure it should have had a side valve engine (by the way, typo, I meant 2 1/4 ohv engine, not 2 ltr ohv. However, can I clarify that you are saying:

"The IOE engine continued in 1958 Series 2 88s, with 109s getting the new 2.25 litre overhead valve petrol engine".

do you mean that the 1958 109 series one could have had a later 2 1/4 ohv engine fitted originally?

according to the engine numbers records that I have researched, this engine is a series 3 2 1/4 engine: 9010-419A.

i would be really pleased if this actually turns out to be the original engine:o

regards Tin

[Larry]

...............Q: does anyone know the whereabouts of a 107/109 tub?:confused:
I'm WA based.

TinTin

Wrong side of the country, but there's this one.:angel:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/body-external-accessories-sale/232897-series-one-lwb-rear-tub-ebenezer-nsw.html

Is that your orange Land Rover in the photo too?;)

[digger]

Pity that you are so far away, that isn't a bad tray I reckon!!

[JDNSW]

Hi John,

.........
"The IOE engine continued in 1958 Series 2 88s, with 109s getting the new 2.25 litre overhead valve petrol engine".

do you mean that the 1958 109 series one could have had a later 2 1/4 ohv engine fitted originally?
......

regards Tin

No, I was referring to 1958 Series 2. I admit what I said could have been construed as saying that all 1958 109s had the new engine, but it was only the Series 2 109s. All Series 1 Landrovers had the IOE engine, either 1.6 litre for the early ones or 2.0 litre (two versions) later.

John

[TinTin]

Wrong side of the country, but there's this one.:angel:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/body-external-accessories-sale/232897-series-one-lwb-rear-tub-ebenezer-nsw.html

Is that your orange Land Rover in the photo too?;)

Hi Larry, company car yes. I have had 2 Disco's, D3 and D4 over 7 years, the new one doesn't come to Oz until next year, so I fancied a change. although I was totally torn, as I love the D4.
so hopefully I will get into the new D5 in a couple of years.

D Sport is good, I have the 2 ltr turbo, which is quick, they say quicker than a stock Golf GTI. It is very light, so I can believe it is.

cheers,

Tin:cool:

[TinTin]

Pity that you are so far away, that isn't a bad tray I reckon!!

thanks for pointing this one out Digger. I'll certainly consider it and make some enquiries.

cheers, Tin

[TinTin]

No, I was referring to 1958 Series 2. I admit what I said could have been construed as saying that all 1958 109s had the new engine, but it was only the Series 2 109s. All Series 1 Landrovers had the IOE engine, either 1.6 litre for the early ones or 2.0 litre (two versions) later.

John

yes, as I thought John. ah well. I will look at this when I have run her for a bit. I would like it to be authentic.

cheers, Tin

[B.S.F.]

thanks for pointing this one out Digger. I'll certainly consider it and make some enquiries.

cheers, Tin
It looks like the righthand side has been repaired. The rear RH corner bracket in the picture is actually a reinforced front LH bracket off a S1 109. The absence of reinforced brackets at the front indicate it's a 107".As far as I know the only other difference between a 107 and 109 back is the holes for the tail lights. 107 D-lights ,109 Pork pies. Inspect it before you spend money!!
.W.

[TinTin]

It looks like the righthand side has been repaired. The rear RH corner bracket in the picture is actually a reinforced front LH bracket off a S1 109. The absence of reinforced brackets at the front indicate it's a 107".As far as I know the only other difference between a 107 and 109 back is the holes for the tail lights. 107 D-lights ,109 Pork pies. Inspect it before you spend money!!
.W.
thanks for pointing this out. I was told they are both the same, not too bothered about the light difference. good for the price though.

cheers Tin

[whitakerb]

Tin Tin,

I have three tubs in varying states of disrepair, If you get stuck, get in touch.

[digger]

thanks for pointing this one out Digger. I'll certainly consider it and make some enquiries.

cheers, Tin

If you drive over to pick it up from mark, bring the one your taking off
I'll happily use it. :).

[TinTin]

Tin Tin,

I have three tubs in varying states of disrepair, If you get stuck, get in touch.
That's great Ben, im away for a couple of weeks, will contacts you on it return.

Cheers, Tin

[LandroverScott]

Hi everyone,


Q: does anyone know the whereabouts of a 107/109 tub?:confused:
I'm WA based.

TinTin

YEah I got one but wrong side of the country

[numpty]

It looks like the righthand side has been repaired. The rear RH corner bracket in the picture is actually a reinforced front LH bracket off a S1 109. The absence of reinforced brackets at the front indicate it's a 107".As far as I know the only other difference between a 107 and 109 back is the holes for the tail lights. 107 D-lights ,109 Pork pies. Inspect it before you spend money!!
.W.

And some 107's have Pork Pies as mine does, which is 1955.

[B.S.F.]

And some 107's have Pork Pies as mine does, which is 1955.

Noted ! Thank you.
.W.

[B.S.F.]

And some 107's have Pork Pies as mine does, which is 1955.
I'm an idiot and should have known better than to post without checking. I too have a 55 107 tray here, with holes for Pork Pies that came off a 2776...... LWB S1.
.W.

[TinTin]

That's great Ben, im away for a couple of weeks, will contacts you on it return.

Cheers, Tin
hi Ben,
I'm back in Perth now. can you send some pics of the tubs you have? obviously I'd prefer to get one here in WA if at all possible. cheers.

Tin

[Defender Mike]

I had a quick look at this one on my way to the Canning Stock Route a few weeks back. If only I had more time. If your looking for a tub i have been told there is a good straight one down south WA near Albany. There is a guy who has several landys in a paddock that are slowly sinking into the soft ground. There are a few owners here from WA who should be able to help you locate the owner. There are several S1's including 2 80 inch in the property. If you search back here you may find some info & a googel earth pic .
Mike:)

[TinTin]

thanks Mike. did you mean you had a photo of the tub?
if anyone has more details of the whereabouts its definitely worth a look see.

thanks again Mike.