View Full Version : Butchery - check your nuts!
MR LR
4th June 2016, 06:52 PM
So much for well maintained army vehicles!
The number 5 that I am doing up for a mate is covered in more butchery than anything else I've worked on recently.
- lunette ring held on by 10mm nuts on 3/8 UNC studs!
- axle u-bolts which are UNF, were double nutted with UNC nuts!
- the wiring looks like it was done by a 7 year old from a third world country with no electricity.
I'm in utter disbelief that government agencies would be so butcherous with such important things (lunette bolts for one!)
So, check your nuts and bolts! And that's probably more broad than the trailers... I'd be checking any ex army vehicle for butchery.
pop058
4th June 2016, 06:57 PM
Has the trailer ever been in anyone else's hands (other than the green team) prior to you working on it ??
MR LR
4th June 2016, 07:21 PM
Has the trailer ever been in anyone else's hands (other than the green team) prior to you working on it ??
I picked it up from the auctions, so unless AFM had any reason to mess about with the whole thing, then I've lost all faith in Army Mechanics. This is not complex stuff, I wouldn't even expect to see this on a clapped out piece of farm machinery.
digger
4th June 2016, 08:19 PM
I picked it up from the auctions, so unless AFM had any reason to mess about with the whole thing, then I've lost all faith in Army Mechanics. This is not complex stuff, I wouldn't even expect to see this on a clapped out piece of farm machinery.
I was of the belief that AFM had Assembled some trailers from parts etc that were supplied here in Adelaide as they would make more for them but not sure if the bloke who told me knows that or suspects that
landy
5th June 2016, 05:58 AM
First up Will I cant say that it was or wasn't last repaired by RAEME. But I know our workshop in Brisbane has a nuts a bolts selection mounted to the rear workshop wall that would make any die hard Landy nut loose one off in his boxers!
My point being, that the correct nuts/bolts are always on hand. And free! Which means that there is NO reason not to use the correct parts. Also, the guys get ample allocated time to service or repair so it's never really a rush unless field repairs are made and even then they are noted for workshop repair at a later time.
Of course that's not to say that there aren't the odd butchers around but luckily they are Sussed out fairly soon.
My guess is that it was bodged together from parts for resale at auction by persons unknown or possibly a school training aid.
Be assured though that the standard of technician is high for the most part.
101 Ron
5th June 2016, 07:51 AM
I back up what has been stated.
RAEME mechanics have correct parts, especially bolts and nuts on hand and the work system is one where paper work and methods are far above civie practice.
The only thing RAEME is backwards is on hand painting of things and using enamel paint.
Poor work is not tolerated and inspections of vehicles and the paper trail show up and finds poor mechanics.
67hardtop
5th June 2016, 08:51 AM
I was of the belief that AFM had Assembled some trailers from parts etc that were supplied here in Adelaide as they would make more for them but not sure if the bloke who told me knows that or suspects that
Jeez i better check my No. 5, arn 176 464, that i bought here in Adelaide, over closely. Looks ok even tho the indicators dont work.
Cheers Rod
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Blknight.aus
5th June 2016, 11:53 AM
Lets not forget that loads of work gets shipped off to civvies and calling their work "at times less than the professional standard expected for the amount of tax payers money spent" would be about the same level of statement as saying "if you look closely you can find porn on the internet"
digger
6th June 2016, 09:17 AM
Lets not forget that loads of work gets shipped off to civvies and calling their work "at times less than the professional standard expected for the amount of tax payers money spent" would be about the same level of statement as saying "if you look closely you can find porn on the internet"
There's net on the porn? I mean...... Ummm...... Don't worry about it,,
MR LR
6th June 2016, 06:07 PM
The only thing that could have been changed by AFM is the lunette ring, as it's a different shade of green, and the 10mm nuts used were relatively new. But even then that doesn't excuse the u-bolt nuts or the wiring mess...
The whole trailer debarkle is turning into a nightmare. I wish I never got involved!
Blknight.aus
6th June 2016, 06:58 PM
feel your pain.
imagine having to sort that mess out when its just come back from a service with an FF/NOM sticker on it and its tasked tomorrow.
take your time and some deep breaths.
MR LR
6th June 2016, 07:23 PM
feel your pain.
imagine having to sort that mess out when its just come back from a service with an FF/NOM sticker on it and its tasked tomorrow.
take your time and some deep breaths.
The army stuff was easy enough to sort out (the one day deadline would have been fine). But getting the thing onto NSW roads has me pulling my hair out, and establishing new regos on trailers isn't new to me!
weeds
6th June 2016, 08:00 PM
there are good tradies and not so good tradies in every organisation, the defence force is no different.........since the apprentice scheme stopped (when Class No. stopped) i recon the standard started to slip
My bet is there would be plenty of workshop that don't have a nice nut and bolt rack given the amount of modern equipment no having metric
buyer beware at auctions.......
stealth
6th June 2016, 08:39 PM
The only thing that could have been changed by AFM is the lunette ring, as it's a different shade of green, and the 10mm nuts used were relatively new. But even then that doesn't excuse the u-bolt nuts or the wiring mess...
The whole trailer debarkle is turning into a nightmare. I wish I never got involved!
Lucky you weren't asked to restore this piece of ex-army machinery then!!!
MR LR
6th June 2016, 08:44 PM
Lucky you weren't asked to restore this piece of ex-army machinery then!!!
Restorations are different... I've spent my whole life helping with others and completing my own restorations.
This was meant to be serviceable machinery!
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