SuperPro Bushes

[Disco-tastic]

Hi all,

I know lower control arms have been talked about over and over but i havent found anything on SuperPro Bushes.

Suits Land Rover Discovery 3 Super PRO Lower Control ARM Rear Bush KIT Superpro | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331853448078)

Im leaning towards for a few reasons:

1. Cost is $179. (I will need to add a few new bolts to that). A set of new arms is $900 local or $750 imported (with all the bolts). Ive been quoted $600 to install original bushes both sides (front and rear bushes only).
2. You don't need to press them in as each bush is 3 piece. I can do it at home (after i bash and burn the old bush out)
3. They dont wear out in 80k kms!!!
4. They have cut outs so i dont think they would ride as harsh as other poly bushes.

Not sure about ride, so I'm seeing if anybody has installed them and liked/disliked them.

Cheers

Dan

[DJL9999]

There is a fair bit on this topic actually. The general concern is they effect ride and may prove too stiff and cause structural stress etc. Hence why I'n the last week I've decided to order new arms from the UK but only after s heap of research I cam to this decision.

[DJL9999]

There is a fair bit on this topic actually. The general concern is they effect ride and may prove too stiff and cause structural stress etc. Hence why I'n the last week I've decided to order new arms from the UK but only after s heap of research I cam to this decision.


This is only just one of the many threads/topics->

Poly Bushings in Control Arms

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaulro%2Ecom%2Fafv b%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D225058&share_tid=225058&share_fid=669&share_type=t

[Tombie]

Hydrobushes aren't cheap - but take a look at the range of motion it's required to handle and you'd want to fit the same...

[Disco-tastic]

This is only just one of the many threads/topics->

Poly Bushings in Control Arms

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaulro%2Ecom%2Fafv b%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D225058&share_tid=225058&share_fid=669&share_type=t

Thanks DJL.

I have read that thread and the one linked within, but managed to miss the part where SuperPro is mentioned :o - i thought they were both about solid polybushes as seen in this video. https://youtu.be/5qME9xcnWBg

Sorry about that :o

Dan

[Disco-tastic]

Hydrobushes aren't cheap - but take a look at the range of motion it's required to handle and you'd want to fit the same...

Do you have a video of them? I have only seen a video of a flogged bush. I thought they were designed to rotate about the bolt and the bush design minimises vibration. as the arm is designed to move up and down I'm not sure how lateral movement would necessarily provide more flex (unlike a softer bush in a radius arm, for example)

Cheers

Dan

[Tombie]

Put your Disco in raised mode...
Keeping clear of it, have someone sit inside and set it to exit mode.

Watch the length of movement.

A hydro bush has a far greater range - a more "solid" material will start to bind and compress.

[Tombie]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/732.jpg

The fluid dampens the movement whilst allowing it to flex through a greater range of motion - keeps NVH down whilst retaining flexibility.

[shanegtr]

Redback put some superpro bushes in his D4:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/225058-poly-bushings-control-arms.html

[LRD414]

Do you have a video of them? I have only seen a video of a flogged bush.


The fluid dampens the movement whilst allowing it to flex through a greater range of motion - keeps NVH down whilst retaining flexibility.
Not a video but here's another good photo that Tombie posted at this thread:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/219785-lower-control-arms.html
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/957.jpg

My plan is to replace arms when the time comes but keep the original arms and get them re-bushed (OEM bushes) and then have them re-installed when 2nd changeover time comes.

Once you have purchased a 2nd set of arms you have a relatively cost effective rotable spare that can also be sold off if required (eg selling vehicle) & nothing is wasted.

Cheers,
Scott

[guthrie]

Hi all,
Not sure about ride, so I'm seeing if anybody has installed them and liked/disliked them.


Not the Super-pro's... but Ive tried the Whiteline ones Whiteline Suspension Bushings for LAND ROVER - RANGE ROVER DISCOVERY 4 (2009-ON) (http://www.whiteline.com.au/do_segue4.php'make=LAND+ROVER+-+RANGE+ROVER&model=DISCOVERY&model_final=DISCOVERY+4&vehicle=2009-ON)

I put up with them for 2 months before changing them for a complete new lower control arm from Advanced Factors.

The Whitelines ones were so harsh.. felt like my front tyres were at 50psi (they were at 35).

[Disco-tastic]

Put your Disco in raised mode...
Keeping clear of it, have someone sit inside and set it to exit mode.

Watch the length of movement.

A hydro bush has a far greater range - a more "solid" material will start to bind and compress.

Haha at the moment that will just show that my rear bushes are cactus, not the intended range of movement.

Cheers

Dan

[Tombie]

Remember that ride you paid a lot of money for? [emoji41]
Worth the correct parts to retain the quality. [emoji56]

[DJL9999]

This is where I will be getting the parts from unless someone has a better UK supplier/s. I have to order the parts and get shipped to Darwin I'm in Cooktown ATM so I'm putting faith in the delivery system :) https://www.lrdirect.com/home.php

[Disco-tastic]

Remember that ride you paid a lot of money for? [emoji41]
Worth the correct parts to retain the quality. [emoji56]

Oh I agree. The cost of the hydrolastic bushes isnt my concern (they're $80 each plus shipping) - it was more the longevity and ease of installation as i dont have a press.

I'm also trying to find whats the best value for me at the moment. A while set of arms i can change myself, but I'm pretty sure i only need new rear bushes.

I'm thinking of knocking up a small one out of scrap steel now though. Anyone had experience with any good portable presses?

Cheers

Dan

[Disco-tastic]

Is Lemforder equivalent to OEM?

https://www.lrdirect.com/LR051586-supplied-by-BRITPART-branded-LEMFORDER.html

They are easier to find.

Just looking at that link though they may be a rebranded britpart...

Cheers

Dan

[guthrie]

Is Lemforder equivalent to OEM?


According to Advanced Factors they are

KIT603 LEMFORDER OEM DISCOVERY 3 & 4 FRONT LOWER ARMS & BOLT KIT (http://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/kit603-lemforder-oem-discovery-3--4-front-lower-arms--bolt-kit-100895-p.asp)

[Tombie]

If you are looking for another alternative contact Les Richmond Auto. They have had a rubber bush made.

Possibly worth a look..

[Geedublya]

Don't get Britpart, they don't last.

[Disco-tastic]

Don't get Britpart, they don't last.

Ive heard that enough times to believe it :) just not sure if lemforder is made by britpart or just supplied by...

Cheers

Dan

[sheerluck]

Ive heard that enough times to believe it :) just not sure if lemforder is made by britpart or just supplied by...n

Cheers

Dan

Supplied by. Lemforder are the OE manufacturer, and extremely reputable. Britpart have a reputation normally for low cost, low quality items. But if it's definitely Lemforder in the packet, buy with confidence.

[Disco-tastic]

Thanks sheerluck! Thats exactly what i wanted to know!

OEM are over twice the price than lemforder in some places

https://www.lrdirect.com/LR051586-Bush/?keep_https=yes

Cheers

Dan

[Colin Pedersen]

Hi Disco-Tastic,

Went through the same process and looked at the OEM Hydro units vs the Superpro....There has to be something wrong with the OEM if they wear out quickly and didn't want to have to do the same again! After procrastinating and putting up with the constant knock for months I decided on the Superpro bushes.

Do most maintenance items myself but suspension is to big a task and specialist gear...took it to Pedders and supplied the part. $500 to remove and fit the rear lower bush plus the $180ish for the bushes and all done in an afternoon.

All the other bushes were deemed OK.

Was the drive and feel different after? I'd say very minor to start but after a week they seemed to soften. Been in place for 6 months and I don't have any issues so far.

Hoping they last from 200Kms!

Col.

[Tombie]

80,000km is hardly "quickly"...

If the bushes "softened" then they have torn or extruded in the housing...

What wears the bushes most (besides lots of offroad) is raising or lowering whilst stationary.

[AnD3rew]

I am just about to replace my lower control arms for the second time at just over 110,000 km. They really are not amazingly long lasting are they.

[Tombie]

I am just about to replace my lower control arms for the second time at just over 110,000 km. They really are not amazingly long lasting are they.



Do you lower/raised when static?

[shanegtr]

I am just about to replace my lower control arms for the second time at just over 110,000 km. They really are not amazingly long lasting are they.

My front lowers got replaced over 200,000km and as far as Im aware its the first time they have been replaced.