DISCO 4 Reliability reputation

[sdewal]

Hi Guys

Planning to buy a new DISCO 4 SDV6 HSE. Checking online for information but scared now because of the reports which suggest that LRD 4 is not a reliable vehicle. My 11 years old daughter almost started to cry, when I told her about the reports and my reluctance to buy D4, because she has her heart set on DISCO 4.

I saw this forum and it's reputation. Unlike other forums where people just brag about a brand, this forum has a reputation of being honest. So here I am asking the question. Should I go with the purchase or fall back to X5. I am a first time DISCO buyer and have no idea about them. My only concern is their questionable reliability.

My intended DISCO specifications are given below (Also attached).






Group Inclusions Comments
Suspension & Driving Dynamics
Active Rear E-Differential
Roof & Exterior Styling All Standard Features

Glass & Exterior Mirrors
Power Sunroof
Privacy Glass
P6 Heated Steering Wheel
Heated Front and Rear Seats
Heated Windscreen
Headlamps & Lighting
P15 Xenon Adaptive Front Headlamps with Signature Day Time Running Lamps (DRL)
Automatic Headlamps with High Beam Assist (AHBA)
Surround Camera System (Requires 025LM or 025LN Sound Systems)
Parking & Visibility
Surround Camera System Included with P15
Blind Spot Monitor
Paint
Indus Silver or Black
Trim & Styling All Standard Features

Towing All Standard Features (Including Tow Bar)

Wheels
Wheel Style 510 (20" 5 Split Alloy Diamond
Turned Gloss Black Finish)
Locking wheel Nuts
Tyre Pressure Monitor
Interior Features All Standard Features

Seat Upholstry
Almond Windor
Seat Functionality All Standard Features
P6 Already Added earlier
Steering Wheel
Wood & Leather Streeing Wheel
Heated Streeing Wheel Added with P6
Streeing Column Elecyric Adjustment
Interior Trim & Styling
Straight Grained Walnut Trim Finisher Added with the Wood and Leather Streeing Wheel (No Cost Option)

Safety & Security All Standard Features

Comfert & Convenience Features
Adaptive Cruise Control
Cooled cuddy box
Home Link
Wade Sensing
Information, Comms and Entertainment
Meridian 825
Digital Radio
In Control Apps
Additional Option Packs
P10 Windsor Leather Door Armrests, Grab Handles, Top Rolls, Fascia Topper Pad
Requires Windsor Leather Seats
Accessories
Side Step

I need some honest feedback on the reliability of DISCOs before I go and burn the money. I am not going to sell it after 3 years as the warranty expires. That's what people seem to do with DISCOs.


Cheers

[ramblingboy42]

where did you get the reliability reports from?

Everything I've seen and heard points to the D4 as Land Rovers most reliable ever vehicle manufactured.

Perhaps you need to ring the garage in Birdsville and ask how many break down compared to other brands.

Where did you get that last line from? You say you saw this forum and it's reputation but you obviously haven't read anything.

Sorry for being harsh , but your opening and closing sentences are just utter bloody rubbish.

[loanrangie]

If you had driven one then it would be in your driveway already, i do not ever consider my kids opinions when buying a vehicle.

[Chops]

I found no problems, hence we have ordered ours. :D

Gee's I'm a bit over the wait though, 2 more weeks befor it's even being built,,,, ohhhhh the wait is killing me :angel:

[sheerluck]

The unreliable reputation probably only exists in the minds of Toyota drivers, who think their vehicles have "legendary reliability", when they have all sorts of issues.

Best thing to do is have a read through the D3/D4 forum here (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/) where you'll read through the trips, the mods, the breakdowns, everything warts and all.

I don't consider it unreliable at all. It is a very complex machine, and a step up in reliability from the D3 that I own.

[sdewal]

Thanks Chops

Which one did you order, if I may ask, and when?


Cheers

[LRD414]

Should I go with the purchase or fall back to X5. I am a first time DISCO buyer and have no idea about them .... I need some honest feedback on the reliability of DISCOs before I go and burn the money. I am not going to sell it after 3 years as the warranty expires. That's what people seem to do with DISCOs.
Welcome and "should I buy a D4 or X5" is not really a question that people here can answer for you. Only you truly know you're intended use and requirements. Plus you won't find many people that have done a detailed comparison to the X5 regarding reliability but you might get lucky.

However, this is an excellent place to start your D4 research, you will certainly get honest information if you read the wealth of detail available.
As mentioned above, the section you need to be in is here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/

Obviously you will read about issues and problems, that is the nature of a vehicle specific forum.
So in order to develop a comparative opinion I would find an equivalent forum for X5's.
And keep in mind, many of the so-called issues are actually just to do with 6-10 year old vehicles for which things wear out.
The fact that people keep their D3s that long and continue to repair them tells me something.

But on here you will also read about the many, many happy D4 owners, myself included.
Of course you can always find horror stories on the internet and I think there is actually a few lemons out there but for the D4 these are a tiny tiny minority.

And finally, just a suggestion to take or leave, I would recommend reading up first and then asking more specific questions about elements or aspects that are of interest or concern to you.
An open-ended "is the D4 reliable" is less likely to illicit thoughtful responses because it's a bit like asking "how long is a piece of string"

Anyway, good luck.

Regards,
Scott

PS .... buy the D4 and stop the crying:)

[sdewal]

Thanks sheerluck (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/sheerluck.html)

No toyota here.

[sheerluck]

The fact that people keep their D3s that long and continue to repair them tells me something.


Exactly Scott!
Another good resource is the UK site, where you'll get another warts and all opinion DISCO3.CO.UK - Index (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/)

If you have a look around there, have a look for the number of users that have "D3 Decade" under their name, signifying that they have owned their D3 for 10 years plus. ;)

[scarry]

I am still waiting for mine to break down or become unreliable.:o

Oh,and that goes for the last three discos I had as well.

Never had one break down ever.

And they don't just sit in the carport,or go to the shops and back,they have done hundreds of thousands of K's all over the countryside and lots of remote area travel.

[sdewal]

Welcome and "should I buy a D4 or X5" is not really a question that people here can answer for you. Only you truly know you're intended use and requirements. Plus you won't find many people that have done a detailed comparison to the X5 regarding reliability but you might get lucky.
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Thanks Scott

Appreciate the information. Will go to the suggested section of the forum and check the information.

[sdewal]

Land Rover Discovery Review (Reviews) and Report, Land Rover Discovery Recall (http://landroverhell.com/)

[sdewal]

The information comes from this site. Happy DISCO riders "http://landroverhell.com"

[Ean Austral]

If you are going to compare vehicles then you need to read a forum called X5 hell.

Really with a forum name like landrover hell what did you expect to read , positive comments.

Enjoy your search

Cheers Ean

[Chops]

I ordered one because I wanted a specific inside/outside colour combo.
I could only change what was already in the system preordered by dealers, so ended up with an HSE with most of the fruit.
We did that about a month ago now I guess,,,, I'm patiently waiting,,,, and very excited :D

[Ferret]

There are similar sites for other makes of vehicles which people put up to air their particular grievances.

In the US there is the Lemon Law (https://lemonlaw.org/) site. If your worried about the reliability of X5 vs D4 you can read about it there. About 300 complaints against the X5 model since 2006 vs about a dozen for the D4 (LR4) since 2006.

Ultimately what does it all mean. Is one more / less reliable than the other because it gets more / less complaints, is it just there are more of one than the other on the road or is it related to the number of owners that know about and use the site. And what does it say at all about the reliability of the one particular vehicle you end up buying - probably nothing.

Good luck with the vehicle hunting.

[First LR]

I find it hard to believe your post to be serious, but on the off chance that you really are tossing up between an X5 and D4, pictures are worth a thousand words, so


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlfPHjJ9wBM



The only question left answering is "Do you really want to take an X5 off road?"

[Disco4Dave]

Could be worse.
3057 complaints on the US "lemons" site about the Jeep Grand Cherokee since 2006.
OMG!

[Russrobe]

If you've driven one and haven't had separation anxiety ever since from missing the most comfortable/capable 4x4 on the market. You're probably not a Discovery person.

[sdewal]

Hi Andrew

Thanks for the reply and I can assure you that I am very serious about my question. I spent the last month in putting up the desired configuration for the SDV6 HSE D4. I remember their option packs to details, that many times I have seen the Australian specifications document which I got from the Lance Dixon dealership.

I understand no vehicle is full proof. I have seen BMW, MERCs on trailer however the problem is whenever I search land rover I see many sites, forums questioning about their reliability as compared to the other vehicles. That's the only thing why I came to this forum. Looks like Canon and Nikon war here.

[sdewal]

Hi Russrobe (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/russrobe.html)

I have driven one (test drive). Loved it. My kids loved it too. My point is, what I am going to do with the comfort if the vehicle is not reliable?

[sdewal]

Thanks Chops

Can you share the vehicle configuration please?

[First LR]

Hi Russrobe (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/russrobe.html)

I have driven one (test drive). Loved it. My kids loved it too. My point is, what I am going to do with the comfort if the vehicle is not reliable?



I can assure you of one thing - if you drive your X5 (run flat tyres) offroad then make sure you have your own snatch strap handy, because you will be reliably stuck.


If you only want to drive on the black stuff, then I would buy an M5 or AMG.

[Stuart02]

Hi Andrew

Thanks for the reply and I can assure you that I am very serious about my question. I spent the last month in putting up the desired configuration for the SDV6 HSE D4. I remember their option packs to details, that many times I have seen the Australian specifications document which I got from the Lance Dixon dealership.

I understand no vehicle is full proof. I have seen BMW, MERCs on trailer however the problem is whenever I search land rover I see many sites, forums questioning about their reliability as compared to the other vehicles. That's the only thing why I came to this forum. Looks like Canon and Nikon war here.

I think the reason you find a lot of forums and commentary on Land Rovers is because of the people that own them and fall in love with them - it's a lifestyle choice as well for most of us so we're interested in getting more involved with our vehicles than the average BMW owner.

Here's a neat little recent article on relative costs and reliability of major marques in the US: https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/the-most-and-least-expensive-cars-to-maintain-by-maddy-martin

If you read that and base your choice on reliability (not to mention running costs), then I suspect we'll either be seeing a bit more of you here, or you'll be driving a Toyota!

All of the above aside, I've said to a lot of people that if you don't need or want genuine 4WD ability, IMO there's better bang for buck options than Discoveries. If you're looking at X5s, you should be looking at Touregs, Mercedes MLs etc.

[Silenceisgolden]

Welcome and "should I buy a D4 or X5" is not really a question that people here can answer for you. :)

I think I can answer that. Our ex-business partner was not the least bit interested in cars. When we came to get him a company car we bought him a Disco so that if he left we could have his car. He moved to our overseas office and bought an X5. He said it was a complete dud, and on his return to Australia bought himself a Range Rover Sport. Says it all really, from "All I care about is which hole to put the petrol in" to Land Rover fancier.

[Ferret]

Could be worse.
3057 complaints on the US "lemons" site about the Jeep Grand Cherokee since 2006.
OMG!

Don't hold back. :)

[Plane Fixer]

I have a 2012 D4 and after 127000km have had zero reliability issues. This has been over some very rough outback tracks. Intend to keep a long time yet as having driven others and owned some it is by far the most comfortable and nice to drive car I have ever owned, and reliable.

[Russrobe]

195k kms on ours and by the end of next year I would have spent $15k on setting up our D4 for touring. If it was as bad as the Toyota fanboys say I wouldn't be doing it after much research.

If I'd listened to advice from people who have never owned one, i wouldn't have one though...

[Geedublya]

2010 D4 V8, 160000 km no issues except for drivers side rear door actuator not locking/unlocking intermittently (not an unknown problem, actuator to be replaced), MAP sensor fault intermittently occurs (waiting for a new MAP sensor from the UK). Vehicle has been serviced as required with one set of front lower control arm bushes, a bonnet switch and a LHS front wheel bearing the only non-consumables replaced.
Both of the intermittent faults have occurred in the last 5K and are easy fixes (the door actuator is a pain to get your hand in there though).

[damienb]

"http://landroverhell.com"

This website is pretty hilarious. Half the complaints are about vehicles that are 15-25 years old ('92 is obviously a bad year). Some of the others are classic - one flooded his D3 with water in Casablanca (after driving from Dubai) - the dealer recommended insurance.

Also, while Landrover has certainly had some duds, On this whole site, there seem to be 2 complaints, and 1 testimonial for the D4.

[Tombie]

Hi Russrobe (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/russrobe.html)

I have driven one (test drive). Loved it. My kids loved it too. My point is, what I am going to do with the comfort if the vehicle is not reliable?



You could buy a Yaris and get a complete Lemon of a vehicle.

Plus, you're asking a question with way too many variables.

- we don't know how you drive
- we don't know where you drive
- we don't know how you like to maintain your vehicles.

This isn't having a shot at all, but people's perceptions are often very different.

My Son and his mates Quote:"don't thrash our vehicles"

Well I can assure you they work them a damn site harder than I do in the same offroad situations..

I have taught my wife to listen and feel our vehicles; if they make a sound or behave in a manner that is outside the normal operating behaviours then we check it and rectify immediately.

I know of others that don't notice these anomalies until it becomes serious and expensive.


It will also depend on how and where you intend to service your vehicle. And what parts you intend to use!


I'd suggest go for it. They're a solid, capable and reliable vehicle.

[Tombie]

People tend to sell Discoveries after 3 years is more a case of Lease expiry and they order a new one [emoji41]

[LRD414]

If I'd listened to advice from people who have never owned one, i wouldn't have one though...
This is what it's all about, I think you've nailed it Russ.

Scott

[Silenceisgolden]

You could buy a Yaris and get a complete Lemon of a vehicle.

You could buy a Yaris and you WOULD get a complete lemon of a vehicle!

[Grentarc]

If I'd listened to advice from people who have never owned one, i wouldn't have one though...

I had an NRMA tow truck driver (while delivering my MIL's car to their place as it had broken down) ask me if the D4 was mine - my response was "of course". He then proceed to tell me that I had better have roadside assistance seeing as I own a Land Rover.
I replied with I dont need it, then asked him how many has he picked up/provided roadside assistance for - his response? "None. But it is a Land Rover!"

[Russrobe]

I had a very similar experience Glen. As i was sitting in the tow truck with our 05 magna on the tray i asked what 4x4 you would recommend(I had no clue, this is my first ever) he said "Toyota, look at what you see on the mines all Toyota." Well I hate sheeple so fair to say i ignored that guy. Besides I don't plan on thrashing mine around a dusty mine site for 3 years... There's also plenty of Ford Rangers up there now and they're arguably just as electronic as a d4.

There's a huge portion of 4x4 enthusiasts who hate anything electronic I'm noticing.

[Tombie]

I use to run my D4 on the mine site!!!
Still hasn't skipped a beat...

[Lukeis]

To support the statement above, I had the same concerns three months ago before buying mine even though I was coming from a Freelander 2 after 3 years and 100,000km of hassle free driving.

One thing that did give me confidence, I was buying a second hand D4 and almost every person I spoke to was selling theirs because their new one just arrived.

No issues yet and yes, it was my mechanic friend who owns a land cruiser that put the fear in me about reliability. I can also confirm I have out performed him the last three trips off road.. Which he hates.

[rangieman]

Hi Russrobe (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/russrobe.html)

I have driven one (test drive). Loved it. My kids loved it too. My point is, what I am going to do with the comfort if the vehicle is not reliable?

You seem to have a bit of doubt :cool:
You have all the resources you will ever need with in this forum :cool:
If you read it with a open mind and not a corrupted mind by the other crap you have already looked at it should be a fairly easy decision ,
We are mostly one eyed tragic`s and enthusiast`s here so if you don`t trust our honest opinion`s who will you trust the interweb:confused:

[SimmAus]

Welcome to the forum.

I've never met a person buying a car on reliability alone; personal taste, functionality, driver image, desire, intended use all come into play. Cup holder count, colour, and leather quality may also influence. It all depends what is important to you.

This forum will possibly give slightly biased advice: we generally love our vehicles due to some of the factors above, and many can attest to the 1,000s of kms done in remote areas with no hassles. Some may have experienced issues, but no more than any other car on / off road.

I'll sum up my experience with a question and answer: would I buy another D4? - in a heart beat!

Good luck with your decision making.

[DI5CO]

I'm on my 3rd Disco. Had a 1996 D1 V8 on gas, ok except after 7 yrs gas part was becoming unreliable.
2nd was a 1999 D2 TD5 had that for 130000ks and was 17yrs old when I sold it. It was still going fine and I had done a few outback trips and the thing was very reliable. Only went on a tray once when the fuel pump went but it was 15yrs old at the time so I can't complain.
3rd Disco, I've had 3 months and it's a new SDV6 SE so can't offer my reliability issues yet but I wouldn't have bought it if I didn't think it was going to be unreliable.

Most people won't compare the 2, D4/cruiser/Prado/Jeep. X5 compare with Touareg/Merc or anything without a transfer box. You won't need the e diff if your comparing with the 5. Disco will go way further than the 5.
If your after a practical car for camping, towing, kids etc go the disco, if your after style go the 5, our friends have a new 5 and they do look nice with the big fat rear wheels. Or wait 6-12 months and get the Disco 5!
Too many choices!! [emoji13][emoji13]
Good luck!
Dave

[Russrobe]

Agree with Dave the X5 was nowhere to be seen on our lis of possibilities. Ours included Land Cruiser, Prado or Troop Carrier.

[WhiteD3]

I too am on my 3rd disco. In 2007 I purchased a new D3 V6 petrol and did a 100k in 4 years; no dramas apart adjusting my foot to minimise fuel consumption. On the strength of the D3 in 2011 I bought a D4 TDV6 and did another 100k in 3 years; no dramas. Currently driving a 2014 D4 SDV6 and have done 64k with no dramas.

My boss is in his 3rd D3/4.

They are great vehicles but like all brands you can get a lemon and you only ever hear the stories about the bad one's; the problems people have had, etc. They are a complex machine (like all newer cars and Patrols and Cruisers are no different) and require quality servicing by someone who knows what they are doing.

Having said that; SWMBOs 2016 Golf is no different. Chock full of technology and requires a brain surgeon with a PC to service it.

[Tombie]

Well said guys.

[sdewal]

Thanks Simms

I arrived at D4 after all of the reasons you mentioned. I even speked-up mine to the level of 20" 5 split diamond black gloss rims, upgraded meridian sound system etc...

Than I compared the D4 with LC200 Sahara, just to see and then an article came up regarding the reliability of LRs. Some JD report in 2013 suggested that LRs have only 83% reliability. That's what made me nervous and I started to dig more.

[sdewal]

Thanks DI5CO

Best advise man. Thanks again.

Sadly they say there ain't gonna be a DISCO 5

[sdewal]

Hi Lukeis

Which one did you order? Has it arrived?

[DI5CO]

Thanks DI5CO

Best advise man. Thanks again.

Sadly they say there ain't gonna be a DISCO 5



No probs!
This is some spy footage of the disco 5
http://youtu.be/mWTuee1bcBw

[rocmic]

2010 D4 V8, 160000 km no issues except for drivers side rear door actuator not locking/unlocking intermittently (not an unknown problem, actuator to be replaced), MAP sensor fault intermittently occurs (waiting for a new MAP sensor from the UK). Vehicle has been serviced as required with one set of front lower control arm bushes, a bonnet switch and a LHS front wheel bearing the only non-consumables replaced.
Both of the intermittent faults have occurred in the last 5K and are easy fixes (the door actuator is a pain to get your hand in there though).

Sdewal I know Geedublya's car and it is not just a soccer mum/ highway car.
Geoff uses it as intended, fantastic car ( questionable tow vehicle, sorry Geoff, just kidding:wasntme::D). Seriously I had a D3 for eight years, 200,00 km, and then (when it rolled and was written off) have had no hesitation in buying a D4.
Usual things make sure it is maintained (but that goes for any vehicle).
I have no doubt you will enjoy it immensely.
Cheers
Mike

[jon3950]

**** this, I don't even drive one anymore and I'm still sick of having to justify the Disco's reliability. There is way too much bull**** written by clueless journos still questioning LR reliability. The Disco 4 is the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned, period, and mine was far from mollycoddled.

As for that website, its just someone with an axe to grind, ignore it.

You may prefer an X5 over a Disco and that's fine. They are very different to each other, but both are modern, complex vehicles and both have the potential to have problems. Reliability is no more a concern for either of them so don't let it sway your choice.

Just buy the one you like and enjoy it.

Cheers,
Jon

[titanix]

I myself have the same doubts despite trolling these forum pages and can sympathise with you on the purchase or thought of purchasing one.

What i do find strange though is that you are comparing reliability to an X5 which has had similar reliability stories about it.

It would appear you wont use the D4 to its abilities, why not just go Lexus RX if you are considering the X5 for reliability?

A recent publication by JD power doesnt help the cause when it shows an inordinate number of faults per 100. 2016 US Vehicle Dependability Study VDS | J.D. Power (http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2016-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds) . Whilst its for the USA, it reflects the refreshed line of cars LR has produced from 2013. What is unknown is how reflective it is of the D4

Yes, i read splendid stories here about how well the D4 performs and how many kms it has done but yet first hand feedback from friends who own D4s have consistent issues with their vehicles.

One thing that is obvious is that you will always get a biased answer from a vehicle forum. Read the pages and list down all the faults people have had. Put a dollar figure next to it and start adding up.

For me, my heart won over my head and i'm negotiating on a price.

[MrLandy]

All vehicle makes and models have their own quirks, issues. As do individual vehicles.

Ultimately a motor vehicle is an organism: it breathes, it consumes, it expels waste, it has a circulatory system, it's made of components derived from organic or earthly matter and it's made by humans or their robot extension arms. It's not surprising that some have congenital defects and that all need tlc.

Cheers

[Tombie]

Or buy a Ford Territory- same engine and save $40k if not planning to use its (D4) capability [emoji48]

Nothing wrong with one of them.

Or a Hyundai. Lots of bells and whistles and free lifetime servicing.

[emoji12][emoji48][emoji41][emoji12][emoji48][emoji41][emoji48]

[Stuart02]

.
Sadly they say there ain't gonna be a DISCO 5

Who's "they"? News to me!

[Tombie]

Thanks DI5CO

Best advise man. Thanks again.

Sadly they say there ain't gonna be a DISCO 5



Better not tell the LR guys that - I even have a first delivery timeline.

[sdewal]

Which one stole your heart bro?

[Silenceisgolden]

Who's "they"? News to me!

Probably the same gentry who said D4's were unreliable......

[Tombie]

Which one stole your heart bro?



If you're asking me; I have a nice D4.

Would I purchase a D5... Well maybe, but I'm no longer an early adopter, I'm also no longer a "consumer" - I won't change vehicles just because of time anymore; I've thrown over a Million dollars away over the years flicking cars for new ones when the current one was in perfect condition... (Oh how times change)

[titanix]

hey sdewal,

The D4 won over and based on the information on this forum given it a leap of faith to go buy one. I have glossed over many of the forums from lcool.org, pradopoint to here. I am a current toyota owner of their landcruiser range and yes its trouble free motoring but like all cars they have their faults.

Take the D4 for example, if you run with a full load and need a tyre change it'll be a PITA as you need to clear the back to get access to the spare wheel release key. This is a very simple design flaw for a 4WD imho.

The first thing i'd say is to get over the stigma of LR not being reliable, or actually come to grips that you may encounter problems. I'd have to admit it took me some time to get past this point.

[LandyAndy]

Love my D4,almost 2 years old and no issues,sorry,1 issue,auto lights turning off in the dark,sorted at the first service,new windscreen sensor.
My previous Landy,a 99 D2,apparentley one of the most unreliable Landys after a P38a Rangie.Sure there were ongoing maintence issues with a vehicle of that age and KM,it NEVER let me down badly,was a loverley car to own and drive,I had no problem laying out $80K plus all the additions for a D4.When the time comes I will upgrade,no hurry,love the D4.
Andrew

[Nicky]

[QUOTE=titanix;2546304]hey sdewal,

?.Take the D4 for example, if you run with a full load and need a tyre change it'll be a PITA as you need to clear the back to get access to the spare wheel release key. This is a very simple design flaw for a 4WD imho.

Look for this product, an easy solution
Winder-O-Matic for Landrover Discovery 3&4.

[theresanothersteve]

The information comes from this site. Happy DISCO riders "http://landroverhell.com"



There you have it. Some people on that site say their disco is unreliable because they didn't get 40,000 kays from their tyres.

Similarly the reliability surveys. They often ask if you had to return. the car to the dealers for warranty work without asking what the claim was. Discovery owners are a finicky lot and will return a car for the slightest blemish...

Also watch out for the posts that start 'I had a friend...' Lot's of them, usually relating to a problem from years ago, or (more likely) misuse. You'll hear a lot about the 'three amigos', it's a D2 problem but those in the not to know claim it affects all Discos.