Some D4 questions, contemplating purchase [Archive]

Babs

16th June 2016, 11:19 PM

Hi Guys,

I'm considering a MY16 SDV6 SE7 and I just wanted to iron out a few quirks.

I have done searches and read plenty of posts but I have specific questions hopefully I can get some help with.

A) I didn't realise how crappy the overall diameter of the D4 wheel is, at 30" and the extremely poor tyre options for a 19" rim.

So in my research I have found the Compomotive 18" rims which they are claiming fit all D4's. Is anyone able to clarify this, I'm reading conflicting reports on wether they fit or not. Some saying the SDV6 D4 they won't fit???

Ideally if I was going to get the D4 I would want bigger sidewall protection, would anyone recommend or lay out the pros & cons of going to a 32" tyre.

Would I be better off getting a 20" rim with a 32"tyre (still better than 19" options) or if they fit the 18" Compomotive rims with either a 31.5'ish - 32" tyre.

I'm reading that guys are doing trips with the OEM 19" rims some with and some without problems.

If there were better tyre choices for the 19" I assume they would be OK. I mean better tyre choices with regards to different diameters.

I'm sure everyone has watched the prospeed YouTube vid http://youtu.be/S3X8S4iebTc

This has the extended rods and spacers stopping wheels turning full lock. Has anyone done this set up to fit 32" tyres?

Is the program to raise airbags a better option (can't remember name of program)

Trailer brakes should this be done by dealer or is there a compatible aftermarket setup that works with the trailer sway assist?

Snorkel, Airtec or Safari?

Reading posts on ARB Bars, I'll keep following that one. Cheers.

Roof rack options? Is the dealer rack steel or alloy. What else is available?

Is there a long range tank available for SDV6 D4?

That will about do it for now, I have a hell of a lot more questions but I'll wait to cross these hurdles first and actually secure a vehicle, I have been shopping over at the dark side LC 200 and desperately want to be convinced to stay with LR.

I look forward to your replies. Cheers.

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Stuart02

17th June 2016, 12:06 AM

Compomotive 18s fit all.

Think I've seen 285/65/18s on a D3 on here.

LLAMS height controller is useful.

No Airtec snorkel.

Myriad roof rack options.

Couple of different long range tanks available.

Good luck!

Babs

17th June 2016, 05:20 AM

Thanks Stuart.

Yes LAMS that's the one I was thinking of. So what would be the benefits of installing this?

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Babs

17th June 2016, 05:28 AM

Just got a good understanding on the Llams kit, sounds good would those rod extensions and spacers still be needed though for bigger tyres? Anyone?

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justinc

17th June 2016, 05:45 AM

LC200??? 😮 goodness me you very nearly made a big mistake!!
I've had 200 series owners in here wanting to know about d4 s so they can get rid of the things... and talk about a car with no soul!! Its a camry with a steroid abuse problem...

Have you thought about a v8 diesel l322??

Jc ☺

sheerluck

17th June 2016, 06:37 AM

Just got a good understanding on the Llams kit, sounds good would those rod extensions and spacers still be needed though for bigger tyres? Anyone?

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You either need rods or LLAMS, not both. Wheel spacers are illegal in certain states (definitely in QLD and NSW), so you can't use them.

A 31.5" tyre is about the biggest you'd really want to go. Any bigger will have major rubbing issues or need some serious mods. Just remember that that the "crappy" 30" tyres on the D4 may be smaller that the Defender, but it doesn't have any diff clearance issues like the Defender.

Anything over a 31" tyre will need a rear wheel carrier, which is ok if you are considering a long range tank anyway, as the spare won't fit in the wheel well underneath.

LandyAndy

17th June 2016, 07:10 AM

As mentioned the GOE Compomotive rims fit ALL D4s.The vehicle they dont fit is the new RRS.
Andrew

Ben_Vapid

17th June 2016, 07:29 AM

Not to fob you off but the FAQ thread at the top of this page has almost every answer you're after :)

Damn I love those Prospeed racks, if only they weren't insanely priced and sold in AU!

Lukeis

17th June 2016, 08:09 AM

Hi Babs
i have the suspension rods, choosing between these or LLAMS is simply a question of budget. At $100 the rods are manual, but i can flick all 4 to the new heights in under 30 seconds, and back again when i'm done off road in the same amount of time. The LLAMS set up you don't need to get out of the car which is the convenience you pay for.

I have 265/60/18 mud terrain tyres on my D4 - I like sand driving and rocky bush trails and i think this is plenty of side wall for both with absolutely no rubbing at any heights. The car in the prospeed video has rubbing issues as those tyres are too big hence the rods and spacers - i love the look of that car but the tyres are overkill.

here are my tyres (may have to click to enlarge as i do not know how to imbed)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=110271&stc=1&d=1466118262

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=110272&stc=1&d=1466118457

Geary

17th June 2016, 09:36 AM

What wheels are they Lukeis? I thought compomotive were the only option or is yours an earlier D4 that has other options?

sheerluck

17th June 2016, 09:49 AM

What wheels are they Lukeis? I thought compomotive were the only option or is yours an earlier D4 that has other options?

Luke's D4 is a 2011 2.7. You can fit the standard LR 18" wheels with a problem.

Grentarc

17th June 2016, 10:58 AM

choosing between these or LLAMS is simply a question of budget.

I don't see it as a question of budget, as more of a question on how do you use the suspension.
If you need to frequently change ride height, then Llams is the way to go. I have Llams, so I am not able to do a comparison to how easy rods are to use, although I have had to use my Llams in a situation where I would not have been able to access rods when I needed the extra height (couldn't open the doors it was that tight), and I would not have pre-set the height via rods as I did not expect to be in that situation.

Babs

17th June 2016, 12:10 PM

LC200??? dde2e goodness me you very nearly made a big mistake!! I've had 200 series owners in here wanting to know about d4 s so they can get rid of the things... and talk about a car with no soul!! Its a camry with a steroid abuse problem... Have you thought about a v8 diesel l322?? Jc ☺

Ha ha ha 😀 Camry on Steroids, love it.

RR no good to me, I need 7seats. Cheers

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Babs

17th June 2016, 12:19 PM

You either need rods or LLAMS, not both. Wheel spacers are illegal in certain states (definitely in QLD and NSW), so you can't use them. A 31.5" tyre is about the biggest you'd really want to go. Any bigger will have major rubbing issues or need some serious mods. Just remember that that the "crappy" 30" tyres on the D4 may be smaller that the Defender, but it doesn't have any diff clearance issues like the Defender. Anything over a 31" tyre will need a rear wheel carrier, which is ok if you are considering a long range tank anyway, as the spare won't fit in the wheel well underneath.

Thanks Sheer for that info very helpful.

The spacers I'm referring to are steering not wheel spacers.

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Babs

17th June 2016, 12:26 PM

Hi Babs i have the suspension rods, choosing between these or LLAMS is simply a question of budget. At $100 the rods are manual, but i can flick all 4 to the new heights in under 30 seconds, and back again when i'm done off road in the same amount of time. The LLAMS set up you don't need to get out of the car which is the convenience you pay for. I have 265/60/18 mud terrain tyres on my D4 - I like sand driving and rocky bush trails and i think this is plenty of side wall for both with absolutely no rubbing at any heights. The car in the prospeed video has rubbing issues as those tyres are too big hence the rods and spacers - i love the look of that car but the tyres are overkill. here are my tyres (may have to click to enlarge as i do not know how to imbed) http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=110271&stc=1&d=1466118262 http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=110272&stc=1&d=1466118457

Lukeis thanks.

Your tyres look acceptable.
What rims and will they fit on a SDV6 D4???

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Babs

17th June 2016, 12:28 PM

Hah replied before reading all the way down. Earlier disco wheels. Cheers

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LandyAndy

17th June 2016, 07:26 PM

Babs

17th June 2016, 08:18 PM

You either need rods or LLAMS, not both. Wheel spacers are illegal in certain states (definitely in QLD and NSW), so you can't use them. A 31.5" tyre is about the biggest you'd really want to go. Any bigger will have major rubbing issues or need some serious mods. Just remember that that the "crappy" 30" tyres on the D4 may be smaller that the Defender, but it doesn't have any diff clearance issues like the Defender. Anything over a 31" tyre will need a rear wheel carrier, which is ok if you are considering a long range tank anyway, as the spare won't fit in the wheel well underneath.

Is this a "given" about anything over 31" tyre not fitting underneath?

Two good options would be the 275/65-18 = 32.07" or a 265/65-18 = 31.5"

A long range tank will be the last thing if ever, I would like to keep spare under vehicle for now, is there anyone who has squeezed a 31.5" or 32" spare underneath?

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LandyAndy

17th June 2016, 08:34 PM

Is this a "given" about anything over 31" tyre not fitting underneath?

Two good options would be the 275/65-18 = 32.07" or a 265/65-18 = 31.5"

A long range tank will be the last thing if ever, I would like to keep spare under vehicle for now, is there anyone who has squeezed a 31.5" or 32" spare underneath?

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I think the 31.5 fits IF fairly well deflated,see what the brains trust says.
Gordon has a spreadsheet on his GOE Experience website with tyres that fit and mods needed if you havent seen it.
ENJOY
Andrew

sheerluck

17th June 2016, 08:35 PM

Babs, actually, I've just been looking at the GOE website, it can be done on a D4, if you remove some of the heat shields and stow the tyre deflated. So it's a possible not a definitely not!

For my D3, I still couldn't get my 285/60-18 spare to stow, even deflated and with the shields removed. :(

LRD414

17th June 2016, 08:49 PM

Yes 265/65R18 fits underneath deflated, a few have done it.
Have a read of these threads and a search for others will reveal more.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/205260-mud-tyres-18-a.html
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/218605-petition-bring-bfg-k02-lt-265-60-18-australia-9.html
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/233730-18-inch-bfg-k02-d4.html

As mentioned, it's explained on GOE too:
Green Oval Experience Land Rover training, Range Rover modifcation (http://www.greenovalexperience.com/#!documents-info/cbbz)

Scott

rocmic

17th June 2016, 10:09 PM

I don't see it as a question of budget, as more of a question on how do you use the suspension.
If you need to frequently change ride height, then Llams is the way to go. I have Llams, so I am not able to do a comparison to how easy rods are to use, although I have had to use my Llams in a situation where I would not have been able to access rods when I needed the extra height (couldn't open the doors it was that tight), and I would not have pre-set the height via rods as I did not expect to be in that situation.

I had both on the D3, initially rods and then LLAMS. For the short time I had LLAMS I found it more convenient and more configurable. It was really nice to run on highway at -20 height, much better driving, flatter trajectory. Off-road, gave me many more choices. I will be getting the system for the D4.
Cheers
Mike
PS Graeme will be sending a PM soon

BobD

17th June 2016, 10:15 PM

Babs,you are probably onto it,the early D4 2.7 18" wheels do not fit the front of the SDV6 D4.They do fit the rears if you want to run the 2.7 18" rims as spares,in the event of a front puncture it would mean a double wheel change.
Andrew

Andy, unfortunately they don't. I went and bought a second hand 18 inch Disco rim for my second spare to put on the rear only and they won't clear the rear brakes either. Very sad and I had already put my damaged K02 on it for our recent trip. Luckily I tried it out before we left.

EDIT I just had another look and the rear callipers barely clear the inside of the GOE rims. There is less clearance than for the larger front disks and the rear wheels are much more scored on the inside than the fronts due to the stones etc catching on the callipers.

Babs

18th June 2016, 06:41 AM

This bloody tyre size dilemma is driving me crazy, long term I can see it is necessary to go Compomotive 18" Rims.

I would love to go 265/65-18 or 285/60-18 both 31.5" diameter.

Plan B is 265/60-18 which is a 30.5" diameter

Do I still have to relocate air con lines with the 31.5 tyre"?

I am assuming if I go the 30.5" tyre which is only half inch over OEM that there would be zero issues?

Is the 31.5 too big for a daily driver (fitted with AT Tyres)?

Should I just keep it conservative with the 30.5"?

I feel like I'm falling into the aftermarket trap and I haven't even got one yet. See this is where the Toyo LC simplifies things for off road.

I think maybe I'm looking into all this too much and torturing myself with frivolous decisions.

Spare could be solved by going rear wheel carrier as suggested. Now have to decide on RidgiDidge or Frontrunner, any suggestions on the two. I noticed a lot of carriers the tyres cover the rear tail lights, this I definitely don't want. I would prefer it centred more to have clear view Iv tail lights.

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ScottyD

18th June 2016, 07:19 AM

Hi Babs,

I run a 265/65r18 in the BFG KO2s as a daily driver. Great Size/Tyre. Zero rubbing anywhere (2012 D4) even in extreme offroad situations. Its nice being a little higher offroad too, although a little more would be nice :)

I decided against keeping the tyre underneath as it is too exposed to damage for my liking, instead using the RidgiDidge carrier. Great piece of kit, it does make it a little more difficult to access the rear (an extra step is all).

Cheers,
Scott

sctsprin

18th June 2016, 08:09 AM

I have 265/65r18 ko2 and didn't need to relocate the rear air lines, there's just a hint of rubbing on the plastic wheel well liner, but nothing major, and I think that's due to fitting GOE rockslides so now a few screws are missing to keep the liner in place
The 285/60 are a tiny bit smaller so should be better

BobD

18th June 2016, 09:32 AM

You will have to forget about inches and use proper tyre sizes so we know what you are talking about!

I use the 285/60R18 BFG K02's as my daily drive and they are great. Very slight rubbing which doesn't matter and they improve the cars ride as well.

Babs

18th June 2016, 12:49 PM

Cool thanks for replies guys.

265/65-18 & 285/60-18 can you get spare under?
Or do you have to remove heat shields etc?

285/60-18 are technically a few mm smaller diameter but they are wider, does this cause any rubbing being wider.

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Stuart02

18th June 2016, 01:18 PM

Don't go any wider than 265 if you have any ambitions of fitting conventional snow chains on the front.

sheerluck

18th June 2016, 01:22 PM

Don't go any wider than 265 if you have any ambitions of fitting conventional snow chains on the front.

Definitely. With 285s there's not even a finger's width of space between the tyre sidewall and upper control arm.

Snow chains aren't something I have to worry about up here. :D

sctsprin

18th June 2016, 01:58 PM

I have 265 and removed the heat shields and deflated to around 5-8psi to fit the spare, you also have to use a jack or your foot to keep the tyre level when winching it up into the space, or it jams. I believe others have fitted the 265 with the heat shield, so the 285 should fit as it's smaller

Cool thanks for replies guys.

265/65-18 & 285/60-18 can you get spare under?
Or do you have to remove heat shields etc?

285/60-18 are technically a few mm smaller diameter but they are wider, does this cause any rubbing being wider.

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Tombie

18th June 2016, 03:21 PM

You're over thinking it...

I've yet to find anywhere the 265-60-18 won't go... The head **** of changing to 31.5 or larger gains an almost in-perceptible benefit and a lot of compromises.

As for the LC200, several in the clubs - all have had: Suspension upgrades, tyre upgrades, electrical upgrades, bull bars crack from vibrations etc. They are not an out of the box vehicle by a long shot.

On the point of removing heat shields to fit a tyre - I certainly wouldn't do it, or trust that tyre after a hot summer under there with 2 "hot spots" next to the tread... But to each their own.

LRD414

18th June 2016, 03:33 PM

I am assuming if I go the 30.5" tyre which is only half inch over OEM that there would be zero issues?
Should I just keep it conservative with the 30.5"?

Zero issues with 265/60/R18. I took this conservative option at least until warranty is finished and I'm happy so far with the D697s.
And there are other good choices in this size, including BFG KO2, Maxxis 980 and even the mud tyre Luke is running.
In fact I will almost certainly be staying with this size long term.

You haven't really said much on your intended use (unless I missed that somewhere)?
eg mostly city driving with some outback touring, lots of offroad rock crawling, beach/island holidays ???
Most of these applications will be just fine with the 265/60 or indeed a better 19" tyre and the stock wheels.

I feel like I'm falling into the aftermarket trap and I haven't even got one yet.
I think maybe I'm looking into all this too much and torturing myself with frivolous decisions.

Yes I think you are torturing yourself unnecessarily but it's not frivolous.
I think it's important to think through and get right for what you want to do but perhaps you're overthinking.

But keep in mind that there are some reasonable ATs and now one LT (Maxxis) in the 255/55/R19 that would allow you to not rush into the 18" wheels etc.
No it's not the best wheel size and no the tyre selection is not great but it's much better than it used to be and I don't believe cause for panic anymore.
Have you read through the recent threads on 19" tyres? There is real-world experience to review, both good and bad. eg
Goodyear Duratrac (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/234405-19-goodyear-duratracs-255-55-19-a.html)
Goodyear Duratrac (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/214427-anybody-duratrac-19s-got-report-looking-toughest-19-a.html)
Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10 (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/235239-19-hankook-dynapro-atm-rf10.html)
Maxxis Bravo 980 (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/235378-19-maxxis-tyres.html)
Cooper Zeon LTZ (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/147230-d4-19inch-cooper-zeon-ltz-255-55-19-a.html)
Standard OE Wranglers (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/233287-d4-driving-over-big-red-19-rims.html)
There is a General Grabber too but couldn't find a specific thread.

Hope that helps. It is worth having a fish around in this section. Almost everything has been done.;)

Scott

BobD

18th June 2016, 04:07 PM

Babs, the other thing to get in your thinking is that the D4 is nothing like traditional four wheel drives that you are used to. Tyre size is not as important because the diff clearance is not governed by the tyre size. You can increase or decrease diff clearance at the push of a button. Everything needs to be taken slowly or you start bashing the front cross member on the ground because of the independent suspension. The car just walks through obstacles with the traction control and smarts doing the work. You end up relearning what you thought you knew.

The car is incredibly capable straight out of the box, including with 19 inch tyres. Don't listen to the motoring journos that don't understand much about the car. Adding bigger and more aggressive tyres is only a slight improvement and gives you more peace of mind when on tough surfaces. Really the only really important requirements for me would be Llams (or rods) and a long range fuel tank with a spare wheel carrier, not a Kaymar rear bar, if I was buying new. They overcome the two major weaknesses of the car in my opinion.

Tombie

18th June 2016, 04:21 PM

Front cross member is an easy to protect item also - all of $380 for full under plating from front to beyond the TC...

Babs

18th June 2016, 10:38 PM

Thanks Boys, I really appreciate the sound advice.

A couple of things have now advanced for me, my Deefer sold today so I have made my decision I'm going to go with the D4, I'll be heading out to a dealer in the morning with intent to leave a deposit, the pricing homework has been done.

I'm going to play the conservative card and grab the Compomotive 18" rims and fit 265/60-18 tyres. Still deciding between BFG KO2 or D697?

It will be greater piece of mind going back an inch in rim size, with those tyres I'll gain 1.5" extra sidewall.

Didn't really want to put a rear wheel carrier they're a pain in the arse but I really want (probably not need) a long range tank. I could make do with out but I'm lazy I like the idea of less trips a month to servos.

So what are your thoughts on carriers?
I won't go bumper replacement, I like the look of the Frontrunner or RidgiDidge carriers, I want the tyre more centred so tail lights aren't obstructed. Any advice here would be appreciated.

Could I also get some recommendations on roof racks. I like the Prospeed rack, looks good but it doesn't look practical.

Is this the factory OME? If so how much does it way? LR website tell you nothing.
Roof rating is 75 kilos including rack, that's a poor effort. This guy is way over with all the gericans. Is that the OME Rack in photo?

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shanegtr

18th June 2016, 10:44 PM

Could I also get some recommendations on roof racks. I like the Prospeed rack, looks good but it doesn't look practical.

I like the prospeed rack too, defiantly the best looking one out there. Shame about the price to get one landed here

LRD414

19th June 2016, 07:44 AM

....my Deefer sold today so I have made my decision I'm going to go with the D4....

Why the change?

Regards,
Scott

Chops

19th June 2016, 09:39 AM

Could I also get some recommendations on roof racks. I like the Prospeed rack, looks good but it doesn't look practical.

Is this the factory OME? If so how much does it way? LR website tell you nothing.
Roof rating is 75 kilos including rack, that's a poor effort. This guy is way over with all the gericans. Is that the OME Rack in photo?

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Looking at that vehicle, if I recall correctly, this was set up by LR themselves. Could it be that here in Aus (only) we are limited to the 75Kg ?

With all the talk on tyres here, I'm not so sure I'll be swapping my rims over as soon as I thought I would,,, we'll see though. Love the look of the Compomotive wheels.

Babs

19th June 2016, 10:15 AM

Why the change? Regards, Scott

I do a lot of klm, I love my Defenders but they wear you down.
When I came back to defer the plan was to keep and pass down to kids, I didn't expect them to increase in value, nevertheless it put me closer to the D4 or LC range which suit my lifestyle better.

It will be nice to have a vehicle drive me rather than me drive it.

I will get another Deefer down the track I'll look for a td5, something with good body but mechanical problems that I can strip down restore and continue my LS3 conversion dream. Plenty of time for that.

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Babs

19th June 2016, 10:16 AM

Looking at that vehicle, if I recall correctly, this was set up by LR themselves. Could it be that here in Aus (only) we are limited to the 75Kg ? With all the talk on tyres here, I'm not so sure I'll be swapping my rims over as soon as I thought I would,,, we'll see though. Love the look of the Compomotive wheels.

Is that 75kg including the rack or 75kg on top of the rack?

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Babs

19th June 2016, 10:19 AM

If the factory rack is 20kg that only leaves 50 of kgs to load on top. Eeek that's two jerrycans or 1 rooftop tent.

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LRD414

19th June 2016, 10:40 AM

Is that 75kg including the rack or 75kg on top of the rack?
That's including rack.

Maximum roof load is 71.8kg (less the weight of the roof rails & cross bars) for "Factory Roof Rails & Cross Bars".
For the Expedition Rack it lowers again to 54.3kg (less the weight of the rack & rails).

IIRC it's in the manual but also Sniegy's post here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...f-loading.html (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/145885-discovery-4-roof-loading.html)

These are dynamic figures. Sniegy's comment from the same thread:
"While the vehicle is stationary it can increase, but i do not have a load reference for it"

Cheers,
Scott

Babs

19th June 2016, 10:55 AM

That's including rack. Maximum roof load is 71.8kg (less the weight of the roof rails & cross bars) for "Factory Roof Rails & Cross Bars". For the Expedition Rack it lowers again to 54.3kg (less the weight of the rack & rails). IIRC it's in the manual but also Sniegy's post here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...f-loading.html (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/145885-discovery-4-roof-loading.html) These are dynamic figures. Sniegy's comment from the same thread: "While the vehicle is stationary it can increase, but i do not have a load reference for it" Cheers, Scott

Looks like the slimline Frontrunner rack is the go then, full alloy, not sure but it would have to be between 10-15kgs

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Babs

19th June 2016, 11:07 AM

Babs

19th June 2016, 11:08 AM

Oops there I go making assumptions again.

Installed weight 34kg

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LRD414

19th June 2016, 11:12 AM

Looks like the slimline Frontrunner rack is the go then, full alloy, not sure but it would have to be between 10-15kgs
From memory it's more than that .... 30kg comes to mind.
Note also that you can get short length ones that obviously weigh less.
Less area for carrying stuff but then again you can't put too much up there before overloaded.
I got a short Rhino Pioneer Platform partly for this reason and partly for its low profile.

Here's a couple of good threads that cover a lot of the options:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/195993-platform-vs-tray-vs-basket.html
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/222683-exceeding-roof-rack-weight.html
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/206903-roof-rails-roof-racks.html
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/229802-rhino-backbone.html

Scott

Babs

19th June 2016, 07:38 PM

LandyAndy

19th June 2016, 07:45 PM

Babs.
Seeing you are new to our area you may not have seen the Backbone rack.Unsure of the weights,my eye tells me its the nicest setup.
See this thread,when I buy a rack its the way I think I will go.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/229802-rhino-backbone.html
Andrew

LandyAndy

19th June 2016, 07:52 PM

Scott thanks for those links, I will be going the Frontrunner rack and rear wheel carrier.

Can anyone clarify if a SDV6 D4 SE 7 has rear air conditioning, it's showing on LR website spec that rear climate is an option, is there still vents in second and third row? And does that mean that the vehicle wouldn't have the aircon lines under the rear wheel arch. Because if it doesn't have the lines under rear wheel arch I'm going to go with the 265/65-18 (31.5") as it seems minimal modifications to have them fit in. I will be fitting Llams regardless.

Tombie I don't think I will ever require snow chains, if I did it would have to be rear only I suppose.

If someone could clarify the air con lines under rear guard it would be appreciated. Cheers.

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Rear air would be an option in SE,standard in HSE I believe.
If you have rear air the lines definately go in the rear gaurd.
In the non rear air D4 like mine the second row get aircon air from the centre console vents,there are plastic ducts under the front seats in mine,I suspect these may supply air up the sides of the rear windows,for the 3rd row,but Ive never looked.
Andrew

Babs

19th June 2016, 08:38 PM

Andrew thanks for that info.

Had a look at the Backbone, looks great.

I notice you have to cut a portion of the ditch/channel rubber and not utilise the majority of it. I have never seen underneath that channel, would it be prone to accumulating debris and dirt etc?

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LandyAndy

19th June 2016, 09:03 PM

The channel does anyhow.I went to the dealer to look at a secondhand D4 when I bought mine,previous owner had removed the roof rack ad the dealer was waiting for new roof strips.They hadnt cleaned out the channels yet,they were full of red dirt.
Andrew

Tombie

19th June 2016, 09:13 PM

That very delicious Prospeed rack is 24kg.
It's on my order list.

Babs

19th June 2016, 10:42 PM

That very delicious Prospeed rack is 24kg. It's on my order list.

Ha ha ha yes it looks the shyte

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LRD414

19th June 2016, 10:47 PM

That very delicious Prospeed rack is 24kg.
It's on my order list.

Mike I sent you a PM about another topic. Did you get it?

Cheers,
Scott

Babs

20th June 2016, 07:29 AM

That very delicious Prospeed rack is 24kg. It's on my order list.

I was having a closer look Tombie, it's a lot of money for only few cross bars, you then have to buy the abs plastic floor panels. There is not a lot of tie down options, you can put tie down bolts in place of the screw down bolts, though it just doesn't seem that versatile.

Definitely the best looking option though. :)

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Babs

20th June 2016, 06:36 PM

Guys it's now official deposit has been left on a new D4 SDV6 SE 7 :)

Ordered my Frontrunner rack and rear wheel carrier today.

Left message with GOE want to have a chat before I order the 18" rims.

Trying to get everything sorted before delivery date. Happy Chappy :)

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LandyAndy

20th June 2016, 07:33 PM

You will enjoy talking to Gordon(GGhaggis on here).He is a top bloke.What colour D4 did you go with????
Andrew

Babs

20th June 2016, 07:42 PM

You will enjoy talking to Gordon(GGhaggis on here).He is a top bloke.What colour D4 did you go with???? Andrew

Cheers Andy :)
I went with the Fuji

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LandyAndy

20th June 2016, 07:53 PM

Another appliance owner:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

BMKal

20th June 2016, 08:04 PM

The Fuji shows up red goldfields mud really well. ;)

Got mine and my young bloke's Amarok nicely mud covered on Saturday on a firewood gathering trip east of Kalgoorlie. Unfortunately, I didn't feel like washing it when we got back (it was dark by the time we'd unloaded his ute and my trailer) and I parked it in the shed. By the time I got to it on Sunday afternoon, it had set like concrete. Good thing I've got a high pressure gerni-gun. :p

Timed the trip well though. Would have run out of wood today had we not gone out - and it has rained here all day today. I doubt we'd be able to get into the same areas today or tomorrow. Proved one thing though ........... Discovery (even pulling trailer) is better through mud than VW Amarok. :D

Babs

20th June 2016, 08:14 PM

Another appliance owner:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool: Andrew

Ha ha ha :) with a 5 star energy rating.

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LandyAndy

20th June 2016, 08:18 PM

You wont belive how much brake dust you get on the car with the GEO wheels.Not as much on the wheels,well it doesnt show like the oem wheels do,the side and rear doors get very dirty very quickly.
White is as dirty as black when it comes to keeping clean.
Andrew

Babs

20th June 2016, 08:18 PM

The Fuji shows up red goldfields mud really well. ;) Got mine and my young bloke's Amarok nicely mud covered on Saturday on a firewood gathering trip east of Kalgoorlie. Unfortunately, I didn't feel like washing it when we got back (it was dark by the time we'd unloaded his ute and my trailer) and I parked it in the shed. By the time I got to it on Sunday afternoon, it had set like concrete. Good thing I've got a high pressure gerni-gun. :p Timed the trip well though. Would have run out of wood today had we not gone out - and it has rained here all day today. I doubt we'd be able to get into the same areas today or tomorrow. Proved one thing though ........... Discovery (even pulling trailer) is better through mud than VW Amarok. :D

Your one step ahead of me, I had to buy wood today, that hurts when I have an endless supply of fallen trees on my farm.

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LandyAndy

20th June 2016, 08:46 PM

Tombie

20th June 2016, 10:57 PM

Congrats Babs. You'll love it...

D4s still have all the soul of a LR without the Tinitus or Dust inhalation.

Babs

21st June 2016, 01:18 AM

Congrats Babs. You'll love it... D4s still have all the soul of a LR without the Tinitus or Dust inhalation.

I can't wait :)

Bruce DPL has given me a V8 D2 to drive until mine arrives and driving the D2 feels like a million dollars :p soooo smooooth :)

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LandyAndy

21st June 2016, 06:55 PM

I had a D2.The difference between a D2 and a D4 is like the difference between a Defender and that V8 D2;););););););););)
How many sleeps????
ENJOY
Andrew

Babs

21st June 2016, 07:49 PM

I had a D2.The difference between a D2 and a D4 is like the difference between a Defender and that V8 D2;););););););););) How many sleeps???? ENJOY Andrew

Mmmmm Delivery on contract is 15/7 salesman tells me arriving on the 8th, waiting for him to get back to me to see if it can be done earlier. :)
I'm going to see him in the morning. I'll see what he says then.

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LandyAndy

21st June 2016, 08:46 PM

A few of the WA boys got real anal about their new babies and tracked them in the ship across the waters!!!!!
JamesH(James) or Tailslide(Ron) should be able to help you out on how to do it,flick them a pm.You need a vin,wich should be on your deposit reciept.
Andrew

Chops

21st June 2016, 09:23 PM

awe geez,,, thanks Andy :mad: :P

Having had the D2 V8 with ACE,,,,, :cool: :eek2:

Now I'm going have an even worse case of the sulks whilst I wait :angel: Still 2.5 months to go for me. :(

carlschmid2002

21st June 2016, 09:24 PM

Congrats. I am close to selling my F6 and still can't decide on new or a good secondhand. Once upon a time I was scared of the high costs of problems without warranty but after owning the a D3 I am happy to work on it. I don't know if I can live without my V8. It just sounds too good. I have recently found a nice D4 V8 in Brisbane though. Pitty they drink like a fish.

Babs

21st June 2016, 09:51 PM

A few of the WA boys got real anal about their new babies and tracked them in the ship across the waters!!!!! JamesH(James) or Tailslide(Ron) should be able to help you out on how to do it,flick them a pm.You need a vin,wich should be on your deposit reciept. Andrew

I just checked, no Vin on contract.

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laughto

21st June 2016, 09:51 PM

I can't wait :)

Bruce DPL has given me a V8 D2 to drive until mine arrives and driving the D2 feels like a million dollars :p soooo smooooth :)

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Umm, has Bruce sold you the chip upgrade yet?

He's a good man, looks after his clients well. Wonder he didn't give you a DEFENDER, he seems to have plenty.

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Babs

21st June 2016, 10:09 PM

Umm, has Bruce sold you the chip upgrade yet? He's a good man, looks after his clients well. Wonder he didn't give you a DEFENDER, he seems to have plenty. Sent from my SM-T810 using AULRO mobile app

Ha ha ha yeah reflash is organised with him.
I chose the D2 V8 in his fleet. :)

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carlschmid2002

22nd June 2016, 07:08 AM

I may have missed it but did you order the e-diff. The problem with the used market is not many were ordered from new as most spend their life on the school run.

Babs

22nd June 2016, 08:05 AM

I may have missed it but did you order the e-diff. The problem with the used market is not many were ordered from new as most spend their life on the school run.

Fortunately the vehicle they had in their inventory already had E-Locker fitted. Yippe :D

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Babs

22nd June 2016, 09:47 PM

Some more questions regarding fitting bigger tyres 265/65-18 or the 285/60-18

In another thread it was commented a loss of power albeit that was a 2.7. (Thanks Andy)

How noticeable would it be with the SDV6?
I am planning on a DPL re-flash.

The other concern I have is will this put any extra load on drivetrain, Electronics abs tc etc, diffs, CV's, gearbox etc?
I would think not only 1.5 inches increase but just want to be sure, I'd love some feedback.

At the end of the day I want to go the bigger tyre (265/65 285/60 R18's) purely for the old school mentality more sidewall is better but I assume if I went with a 265/60-18 there would be sufficient sidewall protection. I don't want to sacrifice reliability for that extra sidewall.

Every 4wd I have owned over the past 25 years has gone up an average of minimum 2" in tyre size, in saying that the only compromise was a slight power loss, LC's Patrols, Hilux's etc they were strong enough in the drivetrains and minimal electronics.

What concerns me is the D4 is obviously fine tuned to perform in the stock version, with electronics tuned to suspension, wheels & braking etc.... What really is the compromise I would be making with the bigger profile tyres.

Or am I worrying too much and the D4 is more than capable to handle a bigger tyre?

I feel like an infant starting all over again, with the D4, it goes against everything I have been accustomed to. Airbags over coils and leaf, independent F&R over live axels, lockers over electronics, TC, DSC, EPB, CCV, APB BLA BLA BLA.

It all makes for great conversation and the dumb questions I ask I'm sure there will be others who come along that will benefit from the replies. :D :P

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Tombie

22nd June 2016, 09:58 PM

Babs

22nd June 2016, 10:42 PM

Don't forget shift points move. Torque band shifts... The tune won't sort that... You're chasing the old world of "clearance" thinking like the old school vehicles. I have always run larger tyres. Always... With the D4 I didn't change where I drive, and barely changed sizes... And I have absolutely no problems at all.. And no compromise.

Good point on the talk band :)
Talk band will change, what disadvantage will this pose?

I'm not necessarily looking for more underbody clearance, it's the tyre/rim combination sidewall concern. I don't slow down for cattle grids and rough roads with big holes.

I'm worried with less sidewall I'm more prone to rim damage, then the concern of rocky stuff. I've seen the vids and seen them do it on 19" & 20" rims but they look so vulnerable. And I've seen plenty of sidewall punctures. I've seen and heard some success stories, I just don't want to be one of the fail stories :(

I don't won't big sacrifices for the sake of the 265/65 285/60 R18 so I'm trying to build a good case on Pro's & Con's.

I'm going long range tank so I don't have to worry about the spare fitting and spare wheel carrier is already ordered.

So I just want to make sure I'm making the right tyre choice as it's the most expensive single item purchase (rim tyre package) out of all the accessories :) :) :)

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ScottyD

23rd June 2016, 05:50 AM

Hi Babs,

Lots of opinions flying, I'll add mine on tyre size...

I went from a Defender 110 with standard tyres to a D4 with Standard Tyres and in some situations it struggled:
1 - Mud, I needed at least proper all terrain tyres to get through even light mud on inclines. OK, not a size related issue.
2 - Tracks where other solid axle 4wds had dug out wheel ruts (hope that makes sense). Most of the time the rise was large enough to collect normally the exhaust or the front/rear suspension arms. Yes I had/have LLAMS.
3 - Rim scratches - endless rim scratches right on the lip of the rims.
4 - I was too scared to lower pressures on the low profile tyres in sand/mud/generally off road.

Moving to the 265/65r18 ATs (I went BFG KO2's) made a world of difference to the above (came from 255/55r19). They are not a mud tyre, I still touch on the rutted tracks, I still get rim scratches but nothing as bad as I did before and I have no issues lowering pressures (I realise that the difference in sidewall between the 265/60r18 and 265/65r18 is minimal, but everything adds up).

Power wise (I've got the SDV6) I've noticed very little difference in performance and fuel usage, there was a difference though and it was for the worse on both.

I spent about 9 months touring (and daily driving) before the new tyres and 9 months after, that includes long trips and boys weekends and there is no way I am going back to standard size tyres.

I should say in general, that the car in standard guise was still AMAZINGLY capable off road. The grip it could extract from tracks is phenomenal, I just needed a bit more.

Also, they look awesome :)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/264.jpg (http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/Deruniec/media/20160217_150340_zpsqrzh4dzo.jpg.html)

sctsprin

23rd June 2016, 06:49 AM

I've noticed no change in the acceleration or drive ability of the car, other than its way more comfortable on and off-road with the 265/65r18s, and it's definitely more capable off-road, fuel consumption is wore though, the ko2 are a very heavy tyre with deep tread. I went to Fraser Island on 19" tyres and then a few months later with 18" and the difference was huge, so much easier to drive, more comfortable, just better all round.

Babs

23rd June 2016, 07:37 AM

Hi Babs, Lots of opinions flying, I'll add mine on tyre size... I went from a Defender 110 with standard tyres to a D4 with Standard Tyres and in some situations it struggled: 1 - Mud, I needed at least proper all terrain tyres to get through even light mud on inclines. OK, not a size related issue. 2 - Tracks where other solid axle 4wds had dug out wheel ruts (hope that makes sense). Most of the time the rise was large enough to collect normally the exhaust or the front/rear suspension arms. Yes I had/have LLAMS. 3 - Rim scratches - endless rim scratches right on the lip of the rims. 4 - I was too scared to lower pressures on the low profile tyres in sand/mud/generally off road. Moving to the 265/65r18 ATs (I went BFG KO2's) made a world of difference to the above (came from 255/55r19). They are not a mud tyre, I still touch on the rutted tracks, I still get rim scratches but nothing as bad as I did before and I have no issues lowering pressures (I realise that the difference in sidewall between the 265/60r18 and 265/65r18 is minimal, but everything adds up). Power wise (I've got the SDV6) I've noticed very little difference in performance and fuel usage, there was a difference though and it was for the worse on both. I spent about 9 months touring (and daily driving) before the new tyres and 9 months after, that includes long trips and boys weekends and there is no way I am going back to standard size tyres. I should say in general, that the car in standard guise was still AMAZINGLY capable off road. The grip it could extract from tracks is phenomenal, I just needed a bit more. Also, they look awesome :)

And there it is! Thank you Scotty, that was the reassurance I was looking for.

Are you getting any rubbing under wheel arches and did you have to bend back the metal lip under the rear wheel arch that everyone is talking about?

P.S great photo of your rig, it gives me an idea of what mine will look like. Cheers :)

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ScottyD

23rd June 2016, 08:01 AM

LRD414

23rd June 2016, 08:50 AM

How noticeable would it be with the SDV6?
I am planning on a DPL re-flash.
Something to think about with the re-map, it requires the ECU to be physically opened on the bench and therefore the change will be known.
This may cause you issues in a warranty situation. Only the older models have had the encryption successfully bypassed for software-only re-map.
To my knowledge this has not yet been achieved for the 3.0L models (Tombie will know this for sure).

I would not consider this until after warranty period and even then I really don't think I'd bother for an SDV6.
I'm not wanting to start an argument about warranty and consumer rights etc .... just point out something to consider.
I would not want the stress of the battle even if I'm in the right.
It would be difficult to argue that an unapproved engine software change has had no impact on the engine/drivetrain related failure or fault (if something happens).

Cheers,
Scott

LRD414

23rd June 2016, 08:51 AM

.... TC, DSC, EPB, CCV, APB BLA BLA BLA ....
*<googling furiously>* ..... please explain BLA BLA BLA ....
I thought I knew all the 3-letter acronyms and Gordon didn't cover that one!!! :p:p

Scott

Babs

23rd June 2016, 09:04 AM

Something to think about with the re-map, it requires the ECU to be physically opened on the bench and therefore the change will be known. This may cause you issues in a warranty situation. Only the older models have had the encryption successfully bypassed for software-only re-map. To my knowledge this has not yet been achieved for the 3.0L models (Tombie will know this for sure). I would not consider this until after warranty period and even then I really don't think I'd bother for an SDV6. I'm not wanting to start an argument about warranty and consumer rights etc .... just point out something to consider. I would not want the stress of the battle even if I'm in the right. It would be difficult to argue that an unapproved engine software change has had no impact on the engine/drivetrain related failure or fault (if something happens). Cheers, Scott

Good point Scott. I'll put the tyres on and see how she goes. Coming from a Defender I will be more than likely happy with the power.

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Babs

23rd June 2016, 09:19 AM

Can anyone tell me what brand/model tyre the D4 MY16 comes out with?

I got the size 255/55-19 just don't know what tyres they are.

Need the info as I want to trade them in when I get the new ones. Cheers.

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BobD

23rd June 2016, 09:32 AM

No worries Babs.

I have had zero rubbing under the arches, therefore left everything as is. I even looked again the other day after a few people were saying they were. I do not have rear air though, not sure if that makes a difference to the moulding or how much it protrudes?

Mine doesn't have rear air and it rubs very slightly on that seam. There is a small hole worn through the plastic lining after several years of full articulation driving off road or I wouldn't have noticed it.

I haven't noticed any reduction in performance due to the larger tyres. However, I do notice a better ride and since swapping from D697's to K02's the handling is a tiny bit better, probably due to the stiffer side wall. Last year I put the 19's back on to get the last bit of wear out of the old tyres on road. That only lasted a day and I put the 18's back on because it was not as good to drive.

With my 285's the speedo is dead accurate but the odometer is out by the difference between the tyre circumferences. It was 100% accurate with the 255/55R19 tyres.

Babs

23rd June 2016, 10:07 AM

Mine doesn't have rear air and it rubs very slightly on that seam. There is a small hole worn through the plastic lining after several years of full articulation driving off road or I wouldn't have noticed it. I haven't noticed any reduction in performance due to the larger tyres. However, I do notice a better ride and since swapping from D697's to K02's the handling is a tiny bit better, probably due to the stiffer side wall. Last year I put the 19's back on to get the last bit of wear out of the old tyres on road. That only lasted a day and I put the 18's back on because it was not as good to drive. With my 285's the speedo is dead accurate but the odometer is out by the difference between the tyre circumferences. It was 100% accurate with the 255/55R19 tyres.

Bob, thank you. Another reassuring bit of information. :)

I don't think tyre centre is going to want the 19" rims and tyres, so there will be no rebate, Great (not) :(

So looks like it will be costly.

Do these rims and tyres sell on here? Maybe guys running stock sizes want spares or just another set?

Otherwise I'll just have to store them and put them back on if it ever has a warranty issue that could be linked to the bigger tyres. :$

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carlschmid2002

23rd June 2016, 05:21 PM

Something to think about with the re-map, it requires the ECU to be physically opened on the bench and therefore the change will be known.
This may cause you issues in a warranty situation. Only the older models have had the encryption successfully bypassed for software-only re-map.
To my knowledge this has not yet been achieved for the 3.0L models (Tombie will know this for sure).

I would not consider this until after warranty period and even then I really don't think I'd bother for an SDV6.
I'm not wanting to start an argument about warranty and consumer rights etc .... just point out something to consider.
I would not want the stress of the battle even if I'm in the right.
It would be difficult to argue that an unapproved engine software change has had no impact on the engine/drivetrain related failure or fault (if something happens).

Cheers,
Scott

I think the SDV6 is just as quick as a D3 V8 (Uses the half the fuel though)and I can drag off V6 Dunnydores. I think coming from a Defender you will be pleasantly surprised. (V8 sounds better though)

Disco-tastic

24th June 2016, 07:35 AM

Bob, thank you. Another reassuring bit of information. :)

I don't think tyre centre is going to want the 19" rims and tyres, so there will be no rebate, Great (not) :(

So looks like it will be costly.

Do these rims and tyres sell on here? Maybe guys running stock sizes want spares or just another set?

Otherwise I'll just have to store them and put them back on if it ever has a warranty issue that could be linked to the bigger tyres. :$

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Hi babs as you're in sydney you could probably stick them on gumtree or eBay use rims with half worn tyres are up for $500, so for 5 all new you should be able to ask a bit more. :)

Oh, and I'm looking forward to pics of the new family member :p

Cheers

Dan

Babs

24th June 2016, 08:20 AM

Hi babs as you're in sydney you could probably stick them on gumtree or eBay use rims with half worn tyres are up for $500, so for 5 all new you should be able to ask a bit more. :) Oh, and I'm looking forward to pics of the new family member :p Cheers Dan

Thanks for the heads up Dan.

Yes I will put plenty of pics :)

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Babs

24th June 2016, 05:16 PM

Ordered my Traxide today, thanks Tim.

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LandyAndy

24th June 2016, 05:42 PM

Ordered my Traxide today, thanks Tim.

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Make sure you get the fitting instructions emailed out,they make the fitting job oh so easy;);););););).
A heads up,run your UHF antenna,trailer brake and driving lights wiring at the same time,its a tight fit thru the firewall hole,so much easier to run them all together once;);););)
If you are going to run Fyrlyts get a wiring loom from Tim too;););););)
ENJOY
Andrew

ytt105

24th June 2016, 05:49 PM

While you're doing all the work running the wires, run an extra couple of metres of 7 core trailer wiring.

Then you already have extra wires for the future.

Babs

24th June 2016, 07:19 PM

Thanks for the wiring heads up boys. :)

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Babs

24th June 2016, 08:43 PM

Make sure you get the fitting instructions emailed out,they make the fitting job oh so easy;);););););). A heads up,run your UHF antenna,trailer brake and driving lights wiring at the same time,its a tight fit thru the firewall hole,so much easier to run them all together once;);););) If you are going to run Fyrlyts get a wiring loom from Tim too;););););) ENJOY Andrew

Andrew I took a look at the Fyrlyt website, gee talk about reverse marketing psychology whoah.

I absolutely loved the Low Voltage brand I got Daniel Mulgo to get me in. It was about a 30,000 lumens light bar and it was phenomenal. :D

Wasn't cheap but geez it lit up well :)

I think it will suit the white lights if D4 better as well. Cheers.

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Tombie

25th June 2016, 03:43 PM

Theoretical Lumens. Gotta love it.

Babs

26th June 2016, 07:31 PM

The GBP might be coming down now that UK have left the EU.

This could be good for us buying products out of UK.

They have nothing to fall back on, no mining no Industry no nothing, oh I forgot they have Sharia law so theoretically they will no longer have to pay tax, oh hang on I'm getting mixed up, that doesn't apply to Anglo's only the minority.

Ah well nonetheless, GBP comes down for dollar to dollar and then we go shopping. Prospeed gear, wheels, you name it here we come.

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craig a

27th June 2016, 11:41 AM

As others on here, I fitted the 18inch compomotive rims sourced through Green Oval see pictures attached with 265/65/18 AT tyres.

I only noticed slight rubbing when cornering tight & very hard and the suspension is pushed down one side, then only momentarily for a second. Otherwise everything is great.

I fitted adjustable rods for use on very uneven terrain but they don't get used massively and car is adequate in most cases in the std off-road height.

Finally finished the car off with bullbar, winch and roof-rack.

Babs

27th June 2016, 01:52 PM

Thanks for that info Craig, another positive for the bigger profile wheels.

By the way your Rig looks great. Love pics :)

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Babs

28th June 2016, 01:39 PM

Ok. I am ordering the GOE rims just given Gordon the go ahead, now I have make a serious decision on tyres.

It's still between BFG KO2 & D697.

In the BFG there's two size choices 285/60-18 & 265/65-18 one of them has a higher load rating the other has a higher speed rating? So which is better?

I would think the higher load rating as the vehicle will be loaded constantly with tools, fridge etc.

But then I'm no expert, I was hoping someone could establish the difference between what is better to go for. Cheers.

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BobD

28th June 2016, 02:10 PM

I am biased but go for the widest! My 285's have always been really good in sand, whether my previous D697's or the current K02's.

Because of the tread pattern the K02's are probably slightly narrower in the treads than the D697. They have quite a step in on every second tread block so the average width is less I reckon.

My personal observation is that the K02's seem tougher and appear to have thicker side walls and much better side biters than the D697's. They both chip on sharp rocks (rear tyres only) but the rubber between the treads gets cut on the D697's and not on the K02's, comparing them from my last two trips on the Birdsville track and other rocky roads.

Babs

28th June 2016, 02:41 PM

I am biased but go for the widest! My 285's have always been really good in sand, whether my previous D697's or the current K02's. Because of the tread pattern the K02's are probably slightly narrower in the treads than the D697. They have quite a step in on every second tread block so the average width is less I reckon. My personal observation is that the K02's seem tougher and appear to have thicker side walls and much better side biters than the D697's. They both chip on sharp rocks (rear tyres only) but the rubber between the treads gets cut on the D697's and not on the K02's, comparing them from my last two trips on the Birdsville track and other rocky roads.

That's good feedback Bob, thank you. :)

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Babs

30th July 2016, 10:57 PM

Well tomorrow is the big day, pick up the new D4 :) :D

Yes, yes, I know the drill, plenty of pics :)

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carlschmid2002

30th July 2016, 11:05 PM

Enjoy. I am very jealous.

LandyAndy

31st July 2016, 05:56 PM

I bet there isnt much sleep:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
At least you havent got 4 or 5 weeks to go hey Chops:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew

BMKal

31st July 2016, 07:46 PM

Chops

31st July 2016, 08:04 PM

I bet there isnt much sleep:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
At least you havent got 4 or 5 weeks to go hey Chops:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew

Wasn't there something on the news today about a ship loaded with Land Rovers due to arrive in Australia in 4 or 5 weeks or so.

Something about pirates, I think they said ................................ :wasntme:
Watch it you two,,, I might be tempted to take a big road trip soon,,,,
Of course Leeanne is laughing quite hard right now, and it didn't help today, going for a drive and spotting one in the car yard :angel:

LandyAndy

31st July 2016, 08:19 PM

Wasn't there something on the news today about a ship loaded with Land Rovers due to arrive in Australia in 4 or 5 weeks or so.

Something about pirates, I think they said ................................ :wasntme:

Brick posted his new RRS turned up in Freo on the weekend.My Bro has bought his D4 HSE when the RRS gets delivered.
Andrew

Babs

31st July 2016, 08:40 PM

I had the unveiling this morning. :)

Only got a 50 min drive home and then had to do a BBQ for the whole family, so I had everyone waiting for me to arrive to start the cooking.
I kept glancing over at it all day, hanging to go for a longer drive.

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Chops

31st July 2016, 08:44 PM

Smicko

How'd you manage to get it delivered today, Sunday?

Babs

31st July 2016, 09:25 PM

Smicko How'd you manage to get it delivered today, Sunday?

I tried to put it off until tomorrow as I only got back from NT late last night but being end of month I am assuming they want it paid for and delivered, so they pushed to get it out today, which is fine by me :)

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Babs

31st July 2016, 09:27 PM

Are mud flaps an option, because I didn't get any ❓

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BMKal

31st July 2016, 11:20 PM

Are mud flaps an option, because I didn't get any ❓

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Yep - they're an option. Plenty of people on here have gone with better options than supplied by LR. Talk with LandyAndy. ;)

letherm

31st July 2016, 11:27 PM

Are mud flaps an option, because I didn't get any ❓

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Congratulations on the new car. :):):)

I bought a cheap set from ebay. Fairly easy to fit and as good as the OEM LR ones.

Martin

Babs

1st August 2016, 06:26 AM

Letherm and Andy any chance of getting some pics of your mudflaps and what brand they are ❓
Appreciated :)

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carlschmid2002

1st August 2016, 08:26 AM

If they are secured the same way as the D3 they help hold the flares in place. My experience with plastic bits clipped on is not good. The mud laps are screwed on through the flares and make it more robust.

letherm

2nd August 2016, 12:34 AM

Letherm and Andy any chance of getting some pics of your mudflaps and what brand they are ❓
Appreciated :)

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Hi Babs

I'll try and remember to take some pics later today.

There was no brand per se. They are chinese knock offs, still ok after2yrs 10mths.

Here are the links to their web and ebay (original one I used for my car model) sites

Mud Flaps /Mud Guards (http://aussieautoparts.com.au/mud-flaps-mud-guards.html)

Land Rover Discovery 3 4 MUD Flaps MUD Guard Front Rear 4 PCS SET Style | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-4-Mud-Flaps-Mud-Guard-Front-Rear-4-Pcs-Set-OEM-Style-/111044768635'ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123)

Martin

Babs

2nd August 2016, 02:10 AM

Hi Babs I'll try and remember to take some pics later today. There was no brand per se. They are chinese knock offs, still ok after2yrs 10mths. Here are the links to their web and ebay (original one I used for my car model) sites Mud Flaps /Mud Guards (http://aussieautoparts.com.au/mud-flaps-mud-guards.html) Land Rover Discovery 3 4 MUD Flaps MUD Guard Front Rear 4 PCS SET Style | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-4-Mud-Flaps-Mud-Guard-Front-Rear-4-Pcs-Set-OEM-Style-/111044768635'ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123) Martin

Cheers :) Martin.

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Babs

2nd August 2016, 02:20 AM

Martin those ones were out of stock.

What do you guys think of these, will they fit a MY16.5 D4 ❓

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131790162766

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BMKal

2nd August 2016, 02:32 AM

Have a look through this thread and you will get plenty of ideas. ;)

http://http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/203930-d4-mudflaps.html

Tombie

2nd August 2016, 07:24 AM

Congratulations on the new arrival.
Shoot me a PM and I will get in touch for the LED replacements.

My treat...

Babs

2nd August 2016, 07:38 AM

Congratulations on the new arrival. Shoot me a PM and I will get in touch for the LED replacements. My treat...

Thanks Tombie, that's such kind gesture, really appreciated.
Though the fact your organising it for me is enough, I wouldn't feel comfortable if you were out of pocket as well, no matter how little :)

Sending PM :)

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letherm

2nd August 2016, 02:42 PM

Martin those ones were out of stock.

What do you guys think of these, will they fit a MY16.5 D4 ❓

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131790162766

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It says the following on that site

Land Rover Discovery 4 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014

No mention of 2015 or 2016 so they may not.

I notice the cost was less but the site I used is in Australia and I was prepared to pay for that. You could send them an e-mail to clarify. I did this with the ones I bought.

Photos of mine.

http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/medium/Rear_Mudflap_1a.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/medium/Rear_Mudflap2a.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/medium/Front_Mudflap2a.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/medium/Front_Mudflap1a.jpg

Martin

Mog60

2nd August 2016, 05:10 PM

I found this video useful when I added my mudflaps which were my very first addition to my Discovery. little did I know at that time how much other stuff I could add :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWWsF5JQOTs

As it happens I purchased mine from a main dealers but they gave me the wrong ones, so I had to go back and swap them.

letherm

2nd August 2016, 05:23 PM

I found this video useful when I added my mudflaps which were my very first addition to my Discovery. little did I know at that time how much other stuff I could add :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWWsF5JQOTs

SNAP:p

I used the same video when I bought mine. They have a number of DIY videos and it's well worth a look at their site or Youtube to find them. I think I may have the link somewhere.

Martin

Mog60

2nd August 2016, 05:47 PM

Here is the link to their website.
Powerful UK (http://www.powerfuluk.com)
I notice some of the videos are in the product information section rather than all being on their video page. They also have a link to their Youtube site. I also used their roof rails fitting guide before putting my short rails on. The only extra things I would add about that job would be to temporarily place masking tape around the "christmas tree" fasteners and to twist them out rather than pull on them as they seem to come out easier that way.

Babs

2nd August 2016, 07:28 PM

I'll catch up on those links and vids over the next couple of days, doing night works ATM, not normally on the tools but jumped on machines to help out, so a bit hard to watch vids with earmuffs.

On another note, ordered my Llams, Redarc TowPro Elite and OEM RAI today :D

DPL is doing the work, told Bruce I'll try source the flexible hose for the RAI so it can be sealed up water tight. First stop Purple Pig

Does anyone have photos of their solution to sealing up OEM RAI ❓

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Milton477

2nd August 2016, 10:14 PM

Congrats on the purchase. It's hard to go to bed at night when you have a new D4 in the garage.

I bought the mud flap knock offs & fitted them. One trip with mud & cow poo on top of the van, rear wheel flares chipping from stones from the front wheels & I took them off. Anyone want them? I now have D1 front flaps on the front & pre TD5 90 flaps on the rear.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=112133&stc=1&d=1470143263

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=112134&stc=1&d=1470143263

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=112135&stc=1&d=1470143263

Sourced the rears from MR Automotive, part no. BTR 277. Fronts off ebay. Thanks to others on this forum who came up with the ideas.

Babs

2nd August 2016, 10:20 PM

Congrats on the purchase. It's hard to go to bed at night when you have a new D4 in the garage. I bought the mud flap knock offs & fitted them. One trip with mud & cow poo on top of the van, rear wheel flares chipping from stones from the front wheels & I took them off. Anyone want them? I now have D1 front flaps on the front & pre TD5 90 flaps on the rear. Sourced the rears from MR Automotive, part no. BTR 277. Fronts off ebay. Thanks to others on this forum who came up with the ideas.

You mean to say they don't work ❓

Is it the knock offs that don't work or are the OEM the same ❓

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Milton477

3rd August 2016, 12:25 AM

The knock offs don't work for me. Not sure about genuine ones as I have not used them. If the shape is the same for both then neither will work. Maybe we are not supposed to leave the blacktop?

Plane Fixer

3rd August 2016, 05:03 AM

Babs, before you venture off the blacktop the front of the rear flares at the back doors take a hiding from the small grit thrown up from the front wheels.
Get a clear protective coating over them as very soon they will chip and look daggy.
This is why a good size front mudflap is also recommended, the LR ones do not do the job as I found out.

Disco4Dave

3rd August 2016, 09:22 AM

Are there any mods to the car required to fit the BTR277 (Defender rear) and RTC6820 (D1 front) mud flaps to a D4, or do they fit the existing mounting points?

LRD414

3rd August 2016, 12:23 PM

Are there any mods to the car required to fit the BTR277 (Defender rear) and RTC6820 (D1 front) mud flaps to a D4, or do they fit the existing mounting points?

I've done this and mods are required to the flaps, especially the rear. For the vehicle, I found that extra screws improved the attachment of the flaps. This meant extra holes in the plastic wheel arch.

These flaps are a big improvement over the OEM ones.

There's plenty of details in this thread linked by BMKal earlier:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/203930-d4-mudflaps.html

Scott

EDIT: actual LR part numbers for rears as follows:
LR055332
CAT500450PMA

Disco4Dave

3rd August 2016, 01:26 PM

Thanks Shane, I missed that link.

Chops

3rd August 2016, 03:15 PM

Thanks Scott, I missed that link.
Fixed it for you Dave ;)

Milton477

3rd August 2016, 05:37 PM

Are there any mods to the car required to fit the BTR277 (Defender rear) and RTC6820 (D1 front) mud flaps to a D4, or do they fit the existing mounting points?

I considered cutting the back flaps to fit around the exhaust but ended up making a curved 40X3 mm aluminium bracket mounted horizontally to hold the flap away from the exhaust. Figured that it may hang funny if the thicker rim around the edge was cut. Only 1 of the original fixings lined up with the new flap but there is space behind to get your hands in to fasten nuts & bolts. My D4 is 4 months old now so it is a bit easier to drill holes in it.;)

Babs

3rd August 2016, 06:34 PM

I had a productive day today Land Rover wise.

Mitch Hitch on its way
ARB Summit Bar ordered
And Maxxis 980's almost got fitted, they were too busy and I left. Fitting tomorrow.

Now I just have to read up on these mud flap threads (thanks guys) and work out which way to go ❓

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letherm

3rd August 2016, 09:10 PM

You mean to say they don't work ❓

Is it the knock offs that don't work or are the OEM the same ❓

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Hi Babs.

The knock offs are the same as the OEM for shape and size etc. The comments about them relate to their performance compared to other designs.

Martin

Tombie

4th August 2016, 07:56 AM

After my Maralinga trip and using it on mine tracks I just have up! By then the stone damage to the rear flares was done...

Babs

4th August 2016, 05:37 PM

Tombie

4th August 2016, 05:42 PM

Reality check!!!

I've dropped the spare once...
If I hadn't had the wheel carrier it would be twice...

Unless you're bolting draws in which will make it very difficult then a simple CBA suggests it's hardly an imposition and certainly not worth the cost..

Mog60

4th August 2016, 05:52 PM

is this the one you mean wind-o-matic?

LRD414

4th August 2016, 06:07 PM

Like most other things there's simple ways to improve things.
You don't need one of those expensive gadgets to access the spare winder with the 3rd row down using a ratchet handle and extension.
Have a read of this thread:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/152910-spare-wheel-winder-access-via-socket-extension.html

Cheers,
Scott
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/1053.jpg
My effort. I use this with rear drawers in and/or 3rd row down

Meken

4th August 2016, 06:19 PM

Congratulations on the new arrival.
Shoot me a PM and I will get in touch for the LED replacements.

My treat...

If you have any logo puddle lights just hanging around [emoji56]
Of course appropriate compensation would be returned

Tombie

4th August 2016, 06:27 PM

If you have any logo puddle lights just hanging around [emoji56]
Of course appropriate compensation would be returned

Only have a single set and they're already spoken for (reminds me must post them) [emoji6]

carlschmid2002

4th August 2016, 07:04 PM

The biggest F up by Land Rover with Disco would have to be removing the spare wheel.

I told the tyre guys I'll remove it so I get a go on how it operates, I wanted to pour a can of petrol over it and light it, and I had no cargo in the back just a rubber protection mat. What a Bullshyte task❗️ :(

I remember seeing somewhere on here that part from UK that fits in between the seats so you don't have to lift the 3rd row seats.

Also does anyone have it fitted and can you still lift the 3rd row seats with it installed ❓

Maybe I should get the name of it and do a search for the thread ❓

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I take it you haven't tried the jack yet Babs. Mine came with a Kaymar wheel carrier so I haven't had the pleasure of dealing with the wheel carrier. I have a 100L tank in it's place. The standard jack is the biggest POS I have ever used especially with a 3 tonne car. I now have my highlift permanent mounted on the Kaymar carrier and I use it off the Kaymar or the ARB Bullbar. I always carry a vehicle stand to put under once jacked. I have never had a flat, just had reason to take the wheels off a lot for maintenance issues, brakes, handbrake and bushes.

cjc_td5

4th August 2016, 09:18 PM

The biggest F up by Land Rover with Disco would have to be removing the spare wheel.

I told the tyre guys I'll remove it so I get a go on how it operates, I wanted to pour a can of petrol over it and light it, and I had no cargo in the back just a rubber protection mat. What a Bullshyte task❗️ :(

I remember seeing somewhere on here that part from UK that fits in between the seats so you don't have to lift the 3rd row seats.

Also does anyone have it fitted and can you still lift the 3rd row seats with it installed ❓

Maybe I should get the name of it and do a search for the thread ❓

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I don't think the main issue is access to the winder, that is just a matter or installing an extension or raising a seat (I have a mat and cargo barrier too so I know your pain). IMO the main issue is the flimsiness of the winch mechanism which is VERY prone to jamming if wound with no tension on the cable. I have accessed the spare tyre twice in the 2 years I have owned my D4 and even then last time I had great difficultly with the winch jamming. I only just got it free. When I get time I will investigate an option like this...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/142057-my-d3-has-lost-its-virginity-spare-wheel-winch.html

I would like to find a mechanical option that avoids coming through the floor altogether. I haven't had a good look underneath to check feasibility yet.

Cheers,
Chris

Babs

4th August 2016, 09:23 PM

is this the one you mean wind-o-matic?

That's the one, cheers :)

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Babs

4th August 2016, 09:51 PM

I can't find info on how the wind o matic works, they only show the top face of the unit.

Has anyone on the forum bought and fitted it ❓

I couldn't be bothered stuffing around with the ratchet solutions others have done. As good as they are I don't have time for that.

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Narangga

5th August 2016, 06:42 AM

Celtoid

5th August 2016, 07:18 AM

I don't think the main issue is access to the winder, that is just a matter or installing an extension or raising a seat (I have a mat and cargo barrier too so I know your pain). IMO the main issue is the flimsiness of the winch mechanism which is VERY prone to jamming if wound with no tension on the cable. I have accessed the spare tyre twice in the 2 years I have owned my D4 and even then last time I had great difficultly with the winch jamming. I only just got it free. When I get time I will investigate an option like this...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/142057-my-d3-has-lost-its-virginity-spare-wheel-winch.html

I would like to find a mechanical option that avoids coming through the floor altogether. I haven't had a good look underneath to check feasibility yet.

Cheers,
Chris

Hi Chris,

I've thought about that approach a few times, usually while standing at the side of the road with a shredded tyre, unpacking all my camping gear, in the rain. :-(

If LR had put access to the winder through the chassis rail or somewhere under the removable bumper cover it would have been great. But I'm not sure how that would easily be achieved, as the spare restricts side access almost completely.

Cheers.

Tombie

5th August 2016, 10:10 AM

Grentarc

5th August 2016, 10:56 AM

Hint when raising the tyre..
Fit the bracket to the tyre and then drag the tyre back from the vehicle until it's taught.

Then commence winching - it's always under load and will not cause any problems.

Easy....

That's how I was shown, and the 2 times I have dropped the spare (never fitted it though) that's how I did it and it makes it easy

Nicky

5th August 2016, 11:17 AM

Celtoid

5th August 2016, 01:33 PM

If LR had put the winder like that everyone who has ever had to change a tyre on a Hilux or similar would be complaining...

Hint when raising the tyre..
Fit the bracket to the tyre and then drag the tyre back from the vehicle until it's taught.

Then commence winching - it's always under load and will not cause any problems.

Easy....

In 6 years of D4 ownership, I've used the tyre winch in anger heaps of times with and without a wheel. You just keep a bit of tension on it and you'll never have an issue.

The wheel idea works well in both directions.

A tyre place I went to years ago with D4 number one, managed to jam it .... even though I'd briefed them on how to use it. But they pulled it apart and got it working again with no issue.

Babs

5th August 2016, 06:01 PM

Easy to fit, no drilling, just small slits cut in carpet, works a treat. Complete access to winch with 3rd row seats down!

Nicky are you able to lift one of the third row seats with the wind o matic fitted ❓

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LandyAndy

5th August 2016, 07:14 PM

From looking at it here

Winder-O-Matic Discovery 3/4 (http://hr-parts.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=59)

I assume it simply sits on the existing 'nut' providing easier access to the place of activation.

For me a socket, extension bar and ratchet were a cheaper alternative than this.

They changed the head in the D4 sometime to stop spannermen using cordless guns to undo them,we have a hole you put the hook in then turn:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Cant use a socket.
Andrew

Babs

5th August 2016, 08:12 PM

They changed the head in the D4 sometime to stop spannermen using cordless guns to undo them,we have a hole you put the hook in then turn:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Cant use a socket. Andrew

Andy I thought they modified a socket to suit the ring/hole. Put a cut in a large socket and slip it over, drill hole through sides of socket and slip a bolt through to lock it on the ring/hole, replacing the hook they gave us.

If you can make sense of what I just wrote, you're doing better than me :o :)

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LandyAndy

5th August 2016, 08:20 PM

D3 and early D4 had a nut,not what we have;););););)
I have a wheel nut sitting in the back waiting to get welded on.
This tread has reminded me,bugga,I sent my mig gas bottle back as I wasnt using it:(:(:(:(:(:(
Andrew

Babs

5th August 2016, 09:47 PM

This is what I meant Andy, I was just too lazy to go back and find this pic.

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LRD414

5th August 2016, 10:05 PM

That's my one and there are other ways to achieve similar. For example, Andrew is planning to weld a socket on instead of bolting something to the eye. Or even just use a 1" 6-sided socket, which works ok but is a bit loose.

But either way, I think this will mean the interface to that winder-matic gizmo is a problem. It will get too high I suspect. Plus I think it's designed for the older style winder with a nut rather than eye.

Scott

Babs

5th August 2016, 10:24 PM

That's my one and there are other ways to achieve similar. For example, Andrew is planning to weld a socket on instead of bolting something to the eye. Or even just use a 1" 6-sided socket, which works ok but is a bit loose. But either way, I think this will mean the interface to that winder-matic gizmo is a problem. It will get too high I suspect. Plus I think it's designed for the older style winder with a nut rather than eye. Scott

I like what you have done Scott, the beauty is you can remove it as well, if need be. Great Job :)

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Babs

10th August 2016, 08:40 PM

DI5CO

10th August 2016, 09:40 PM

Where is everyone fitting the Llams and Tow Pro Elite dial.

I see some have fitted the Tow Pro dial next to the headlight switch, which is where I want mine but DPL is telling me that the newer Discovery doesn't have enough room behind the headlight switch [emoji780]

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I have this years model and my tow pro fits next to the h/l switch.

Babs

10th August 2016, 10:00 PM

I have this years model and my tow pro fits next to the h/l switch.

Cheers Dave, that clears that up, appreciated :)

Now just to find out where others are putting the Llams dial?

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Fasn8n

10th August 2016, 11:24 PM

I've fitted my Llams switch in the steering column like the other posts. Works well there and once you're used to it, you can use the switch without looking to see what setting you've selected.

LRD414

11th August 2016, 05:24 PM

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/212410-llams-switches-preferred-locations-d4.html

Babs

11th August 2016, 10:18 PM

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/212410-llams-switches-preferred-locations-d4.html

Thanks LRD, I found that thread after I had already posted.

Thanks for posting here for me, appreciated :)

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Babs

11th August 2016, 11:44 PM

Does anybody know what this is ❓

The black cap on the roof ❓

112532

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letherm

11th August 2016, 11:52 PM

Does anybody know what this is ❓

The black cap on the roof ❓

112532

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I have a "dome" in that position. It is the aerial for digital radio. Suspect that yours is a filler cap unless you have digital radio.

Martin

Babs

12th August 2016, 07:10 AM

I have a "dome" in that position. It is the aerial for digital radio. Suspect that yours is a filler cap unless you have digital radio. Martin

How would I know if j have digital radio, I thought all radios were digital ❓ isn't that when they display station and songs ❓ if so I can't say I've noticed.

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sheerluck

12th August 2016, 08:00 AM

How would I know if j have digital radio, I thought all radios were digital ❓ isn't that when they display station and songs ❓ if so I can't say I've noticed.

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No, it's the difference between just AM/FM broadcast and DAB broadcasts.
I can't remember the name of the system the sends the radio station name, plus the "now playing" information, but that isn't digital radio.

You'd have something that looks like this on your central display:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=112533&stc=1&d=1470956235

But given that you don't have the aerial, as Martin pointed out (the two options there, according to the parts listings, are either the DAB aerial, or a CB aerial, or the blanking plate ), it's unlikely you will. It is an extra cost option.

Kandy

12th August 2016, 01:43 PM

Where is everyone fitting the Llams and Tow Pro Elite dial.

I see some have fitted the Tow Pro dial next to the headlight switch, which is where I want mine but DPL is telling me that the newer Discovery doesn't have enough room behind the headlight switch ❓

And wants to put it on the side of the steering column and the Llams on the other side.

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Hi Babs,
Thats what the dealer told me also so it was put on the side of the steering column. Not ideal but I can see it just and after an initial fiddle adjusting when towing I leave it alone and can feel it working fine. Interesting that DI5CO fitted where i wanted it, I wonder did he do it himself.
Must learn to send pics.

DI5CO

12th August 2016, 02:13 PM

No I didn't fit it myself. That's beyond me lol
I got http://www.drivenae.com.au to do the install who was recommended by my dealer.

Graeme

12th August 2016, 02:23 PM

yours is a filler capFor a decent size fuel tank?

My guess is the satellite antenna although my RRV also has TV so perhaps also the TV antenna.

Babs

14th August 2016, 08:05 PM

First trip out bush this weekend, took the D4 for a run up to my farm.

Why oh why did I not do this sooner, you definitely get what you pay for and this was the most enjoyable and comfortable trip to the farm I have done to date. :) except for the ticket from the Dirty Highway Pootrol. :(

Life has never been easier loading and unloading, frequenting the tailgate copious times for fridge visits. The access mode and now with the even lower setting thanks to the Llams was a breath of fresh air. The vehicle was at the perfect access height, I kept thinking thank God I didn't go the LC200, I would have done a 2" lift on a LC and that would have meant climbing up and in for a coldie.

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I'll put some more photos over on the "Show us your Disco" thread :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

Babs

16th August 2016, 09:47 PM

Hey has anyone got headlight protectors, do they exist for D4 ❓ any pics ❓

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Babs

17th August 2016, 08:17 PM

:( I'm feeling kinda lonely over here, are headlight protectors taboo :o

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

LandyAndy

17th August 2016, 08:21 PM

Hey has anyone got headlight protectors, do they exist for D4 ❓ any pics ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

Not got them,not seen them either.
Andrew

Babs

17th August 2016, 08:23 PM

Not got them,not seen them either. Andrew

Ha ha ha :) Cool Andy, I don't feel so alienated now :D I was just reaching for the Kleenex :D

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

Babs

17th August 2016, 08:27 PM

So I just paid for my APT Sliders, Air Compressor Guard and Air Tank Guard tonight, so should see them within a week I assume.

Not that I knew I had an air tank to get an air tank guard :o so how big is the air tank because the guard looks pretty long in the pic ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

sheerluck

17th August 2016, 08:42 PM

Air tank is probably about 4 feet long perhaps? Not overly wide though.

sheerluck

17th August 2016, 08:46 PM

Just found the measurements, 1075mm long. ;)

BobD

17th August 2016, 08:59 PM

Hey has anyone got headlight protectors, do they exist for D4 ❓ any pics ❓

Babs, I've done 230,000km, a lot on very rough roads. I've never had a stone hit my headlights. The windscreen, yes, the fog lights in my ECB Bull Bar, lots of times, including when driving my new D4 home from Sydney across the Nullarbor (they are both currently smashed) but nothing whatsoever on the headlights. I think the headlights are plastic anyway.

BMKal

18th August 2016, 12:23 PM

Headlight lenses are polycarbonate, so pretty resistant to cracking etc.

You can get headlight "protectors" - but they are a very different beast to what most people think of as headlight protectors (which are normally a clear plastic / polycarbonate clip-on lens cover). The Land Rover ones for D3/D4 area black plastic "frame" which sits around the headlight with "webbing" that runs across the face of the light in certain areas.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/514.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/bcx3s0xy7/) https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/515.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/o7az6cr9l/)

I've seen a few Disco's with these fitted. Personally I think they are more about appearance, as I really don't think that they would offer too much protection at all. You can get similar for the tail lights. ;)

Grentarc

18th August 2016, 12:26 PM

Babs, I've done 230,000km, a lot on very rough roads. I've never had a stone hit my headlights. The windscreen, yes, the fog lights in my ECB Bull Bar, lots of times, including when driving my new D4 home from Sydney across the Nullarbor (they are both currently smashed) but nothing whatsoever on the headlights. I think the headlights are plastic anyway.

I know what you mean about windscreen and ECB fog lights! Both my fog lights are wrecked, and at $80 each for ECB replacements, I think I might try the SCA $30 (for the pair) ones that look like they will fit
I have heard of 1 person having a cracked headlight lens, but being polycarbonate, they are very resistant to stones.

Edit - oh you beat me to it BMKal!

letherm

18th August 2016, 02:23 PM

I know what you mean about windscreen and ECB fog lights! Both my fog lights are wrecked, and at $80 each for ECB replacements, I think I might try the SCA $30 (for the pair) ones that look like they will fit
I have heard of 1 person having a cracked headlight lens, but being polycarbonate, they are very resistant to stones.

Edit - oh you beat me to it BMKal!
Hi Justin.

A bit off topic but - have you had any problems with the parking/indicator led's?

I had to replace one side after 2 years and then one of those went within 3 months. Not the whole light but individual led's.

Martin

sheerluck

18th August 2016, 02:55 PM

I bought an aftermarket set (indicator/park/DRL) for my ECB bar. Not had any problems with them at all.

Admittedly, they were about 5mm too big for the holes, so I had to grind a little out....

Grentarc

18th August 2016, 04:02 PM

Hi Justin.

A bit off topic but - have you had any problems with the parking/indicator led's?

I had to replace one side after 2 years and then one of those went within 3 months. Not the whole light but individual led's.

Martin

I know that my father (Graeme) did replace them, not 100% on when that was though

BobD

18th August 2016, 05:36 PM

carlschmid2002

18th August 2016, 07:27 PM

No problems at all with the LED's in my ECB. I had to replace the fixings however. I just put in stainless bolts as the original screws pulled out of the plastic. The brake LED's on the Kaymar rear bar failed on one side, however. Luckily the indie worked out a way to replace them without removing the bar.

I would like to know how he did that as one side of bar is not working. I will take it off when I get a D4 but it would be good to fix in the mean time.

BobD

18th August 2016, 10:37 PM

I would like to know how he did that as one side of bar is not working. I will take it off when I get a D4 but it would be good to fix in the mean time.

I will see if I can find out. They first told me they had to take the bar off so I said to leave it. I have a long range tank and Mitch Hitch so not easy to take the bar off and no clearance. The auto sparkie found a way to do it easily with mine so they can fix all of the Discos with Kaymar bars for their clients now.

carlschmid2002

19th August 2016, 04:25 AM

I will see if I can find out. They first told me they had to take the bar off so I said to leave it. I have a long range tank and Mitch Hitch so not easy to take the bar off and no clearance. The auto sparkie found a way to do it easily with mine so they can fix all of the Discos with Kaymar bars for their clients now.

Cheers. I have the same set up. LR Tank. Mitch Hitch on a Kaymar. I am hoping it would fit a D4.

Babs

8th September 2016, 08:25 PM

Going to get a quote to have the roof, wheel flares and door sills (for under rock slider) wrapped with a clear protective stone guard wrap.

I want the roof done before the roof rack goes on because it will be impossible to clean under there once fitted.

The flares done to eliminate stone chips as others have recommended on here.
And the door sills done before the rock sliders are fitted incase any crud ever makes its way through the gaps between body and slider.

I'll keep you updated on the product and price.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

rhinosm

9th September 2016, 02:42 PM

Hi Babs
What product are you using for wrap.
Vin

Babs

10th September 2016, 08:00 AM

Hi Babs What product are you using for wrap. Vin

This is the flyer he gave me, I am yet to receive the quote.

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LRD414

10th September 2016, 08:22 AM

This is what I have on the rear wheel arch flares:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/742.jpg
Hexis Skintac HX20000

The wrap place stock and use both 3M and Avery products as well but recommended this one as the best for a clear protective film.
Apparently it lasts longer and is able to self-heal to some extent. I was told that most scratches in the film can be removed with the application of hot water but haven't tried that.

I have easily removed a couple of scratches with polish and on our recent outback trip the flares suffered no damage at all.
However, I have also fitted sliders with protection plates and better mud guards since the previous major trip, so the flares see a lot less stone chips in the first place.
Anyway, it is virtually invisible once applied unless you look very closely.

This was done by Exclusive Wraps which is probably not much help to you as they are in Brisbane.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/743.jpg

Cheers,
Scott

Babs

10th September 2016, 06:54 PM

Thanks Scott. :)

Your photos don't load on forumrunner so I am not able to view the pics.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

SimmAus

11th September 2016, 07:08 PM

Thanks Scott. :) Your photos don't load on forumrunner so I am not able to view the pics. Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

Try tapping the message body and seeing the post in "full";
Pictures usually load then.....

Babs

12th September 2016, 07:20 AM

Try tapping the message body and seeing the post in "full"; Pictures usually load then.....

Yes sometimes that works and other times not ❓

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Babs

12th September 2016, 07:34 AM

Had a big scare yesterday, went through a brushless auto car wash, purchased the basics $10 wash I wasn't interested in any of their spray on polish crap, just wanted a simple wash as the Discovery wasn't soiled just a bit dusty. Didn't want their blow dry, driving does the same thing.

Went through all good, got to my destination parked it for a few hours and when I got back to get in it looked like the vehicle had been covered in tree sap, completely covered, it was what ever they used in the wash had crystallised.

Long story short went back complained, they put me through again, seemed to reactivate the crystals and came off. Drove straight back home and washed it properly myself before their crap dried and did the same thing again.

Just a heads up for everyone, I thought this being a brushless wash would be the safest option, never would have thought I would have to worry about the products they use in the wash.

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Tombie

12th September 2016, 08:41 AM

I'd suggest avoiding them...
We had Spot marks appear on panels/plastics from whatever they use.

Took 2 hand washes and a complete polish and detail to restore both the vehicles..

Chops

12th September 2016, 09:19 AM

I had my car washed at a hand wash place yesterday. Asked them to use a PH neutral soap on both mine and the mrs's car, and although they chamied ('s) them both,, they looook gooooood ;)

Garfield

12th September 2016, 10:01 AM

Yep, always go for the hand car wash, although I quite often have to give it a hose down first to get the thick mud off ( underbody, wheel arches, bottoms of doors etc ) . Also I have young kids that spill food every where and bring sand in the back seat - so needs a really good vacuum as well.
They probably cringe every time they seem me heading into their car wash :D he he he

Babs

16th September 2016, 08:30 PM

FYI, a photo prior to fitting Safari. These are the holes needed for the Safari Snorkel.

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Tombie

16th September 2016, 09:59 PM

Don't forget the panel cut inside as well - show that one!!

Babs

25th September 2016, 06:28 PM

I am loving this Discovery, just back from the farm and we had plenty of rain up there, I don't drive these tracks in the wet due to the incline and altitude but the Discovery went up without a slip and 42psi in tyres.

I'm loving its capabilities :D

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I'm loving the flexibility I have with being able to change suspension heights. Awesome :D

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LandyAndy

25th September 2016, 06:43 PM

I'm missing mine:(:(:(:(
Thursday next week at the earliest:(:(:(:(
Have to take Deb up to Perth on Tuesday for a doctors appointment.Not taking the loaner Volvo S40.The Territory Turbo hasn't had a run for a long time,new battery yesterday and a good wash/polish today ready to go.MUST USE CRUISE CONTROL!!!!!
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Andrew

shanegtr

25th September 2016, 11:04 PM

I'm missing mine:(:(:(:(

Try going without your disco for 10 weeks!

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Babs

28th September 2016, 06:08 PM

Put my Chinese Land Rovef mud flaps on today.

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Geary

29th September 2016, 10:43 AM

Put my Chinese Land Rovef mud flaps on today.

*snip*

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

Would you recommend them? I can only see small pics when I click on them but they look like the standard ebay types right? Like these?

Mud Flaps Splash Guards Mudflaps For Land Rover Discovery 4 LR4 09 10 12 13 14 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mud-Flaps-Splash-Guards-Mudflaps-For-Land-Rover-Discovery-4-LR4-09-10-12-13-14-/191850786496?hash=item2cab32aec0:g:gjAAAOSw6oBXFE2 n)

eddy

29th September 2016, 11:01 AM

Would you recommend them? I can only see small pics when I click on them but they look like the standard ebay types right? Like these?

Mud Flaps Splash Guards Mudflaps For Land Rover Discovery 4 LR4 09 10 12 13 14 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mud-Flaps-Splash-Guards-Mudflaps-For-Land-Rover-Discovery-4-LR4-09-10-12-13-14-/191850786496?hash=item2cab32aec0:g:gjAAAOSw6oBXFE2 n)

That's them,don't mind losing one or two at that price!

Babs

29th September 2016, 03:43 PM

Would you recommend them? I can only see small pics when I click on them but they look like the standard ebay types right? Like these? Mud Flaps Splash Guards Mudflaps For Land Rover Discovery 4 LR4 09 10 12 13 14 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mud-Flaps-Splash-Guards-Mudflaps-For-Land-Rover-Discovery-4-LR4-09-10-12-13-14-/191850786496?hash=item2cab32aec0:g:gjAAAOSw6oBXFE2 n)

Yep, different seller I think but same product.

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Babs

29th September 2016, 03:49 PM

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/FIT-FOR-LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-4-LR4-MUDFLAPS-MUD-FLAP-FLAPS-SPLASH-GUARD-FENDER-/231120706250?nav=SEARCH

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wlin88

16th November 2016, 09:44 AM

Thank you babs I just order one set of the mud flap as well . Cheers

Babs

16th November 2016, 10:24 AM

Thanks for bringing this back up Wen, reminds me to do an update on the flaps.

So far found them good, they were easy to fit, and although they haven't stopped all mud spraying up the sides and back they have stopped at least 90% and now I don't get cow dunn on my door handles when at the farm (that was always interesting when getting back in the vehicle) :o

wlin88

16th November 2016, 03:27 PM

Hopefully these will go well with your slider as well . Keen to find out

ATH

16th November 2016, 07:30 PM

I've just ordered a D4 and now must find out where to buy all those extra bits to stick on it. ;)
Not sure the Cook is impressed.......
AlanH.

LandyAndy

16th November 2016, 08:15 PM

I've just ordered a D4 and now must find out where to buy all those extra bits to stick on it. ;)
Not sure the Cook is impressed.......
AlanH.

Well Well Well.
All I can say is you have surprised me no end.
You will love driving it,no more replacing hearing aid batteries:):):):)
ENJOY
Andrew

Milton477

16th November 2016, 09:00 PM

They're almost perfect straight out of the box. No need to upset the cook more than is necessary.

kelvo

16th November 2016, 09:01 PM

I've just ordered a D4 and now must find out where to buy all those extra bits to stick on it. ;)
Not sure the Cook is impressed.......
AlanH.

There I was expecting you to get a Cruiser. The blokes in that club you're in won't be very impressed ;)

Babs

16th November 2016, 09:16 PM

Ha ha ha I should have read this before I replied to your comments on the other thread.

Congratulations, you made the right decision. Now Enjoy [emoji4]

ATH

17th November 2016, 07:09 PM

Actually LROCWA has now got more LRs and a good few D4s amongst the membership.
I was very pleased to hear recently that some of the more anti LR members have now gone elsewhere... and good riddance to them. :D
All I have to do now is sort the good from the just bloody expensive for a tow hitch, dual batteries, bull bar...... good job the Cook doesn't do interent banking and see what all this stuff is going to cost. :o
I'd never buy a 200 series Kelvo, not after the probs our son had with his burning oil and a transmission which had to build pressure before you could actually drive off!
AlanH.

PS. No scratchy track trips for a few weeks....

Babs

9th December 2016, 10:17 AM

Rack and rear ladder finally done.

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Babs

9th December 2016, 10:21 AM

Aesthetically I think the Rhino low profile looks better, I'll just have to wait for this Frontrunner to grow on me.

Chops

9th December 2016, 12:31 PM

I quite like the Rhino Backbone system,,, but not allowed to have anything on the roof :mad:
We'll see if that changes in the future ;)

LRD414

9th December 2016, 06:55 PM

.... but not allowed to have anything on the roof

Assuming this is for aesthetic reasons perhaps do what I do and remove the Rhino platform for normal city driving and only use it for trips.

Scott
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/12/727.jpg

BMKal

9th December 2016, 08:41 PM

Aesthetically I think the Rhino low profile looks better, I'll just have to wait for this Frontrunner to grow on me.

Must admit yours is the first one I've seen with the full length Front Runner rack on their new mounting system. Personally, I prefer their old mounting system. It might be slightly higher (that suits me, as it leaves me enough room for their s/s camping table under the rack), but the legs and general support system is far less "bulky" on the old system - especially the front legs. ;)

You have the same ladder as I've got - works well with the Front Runner rack and, at least in my opinion, looks much better than the other style I've seen which has a lower step to the right of the number plate.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/12/728.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/n82vcrbbb/)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/12/729.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/3ztlat60x/)

One thing that I can say about the Front Runner racks is that they are bloody strong. I have had some very heavy loads on mine, including using the rack and the air suspension to lower a heavy roller door from its mount at my son's place to replace the motor / gearbox on it, and then raise the entire assembly back up onto its mounts.

I've also hit the underside of the office building I was working at in Perth a while back - hard. (I was distracted and raised rather than lowered the suspension as I was coming around the corner :censored:). Knocked a large chunk of concrete out of the building, and there is still a scrape mark on top of the rack as evidence of where I hit - but other than cosmetic, no damage done to the rack or the car. ;)

Russrobe

9th December 2016, 09:09 PM

Assuming this is for aesthetic reasons perhaps do what I do and remove the Rhino platform for normal city driving and only use it for trips.

Scott
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/12/727.jpg

Wish i had a decent enough carport to do that Scott. Mines made out of steel box tube, wouldn't trust hanging anything on it.

A lot of personal preferences on the looks department between roof racks, I have the full length new Front Runner but don't mind the Rhino either. Definitely love the new mounting rails. Solid as hell.

Russrobe

10th December 2016, 03:57 PM

I was told we can still fit the S/S table under our new ones Babs. I just can't justify the cost of it...

BMKal

10th December 2016, 06:03 PM

I was told we can still fit the S/S table under our new ones Babs. I just can't justify the cost of it...

Looking at the photos of Babs' rack, I'd say you would be able to fit the table under there. The rack is not as low as I had been lead to believe - not really a lot of difference in height from the old mounting system by the look of those pics. It was Steve at Lifestyle 4WD who told me that the table wouldn't fit under the new rack (he supplied and fitted the rack on my D4.

The asking price for the genuine Frontrunner table and mounting slides is a bit steep. I got a very good deal on mine through the local ARB store up here - they have the same table under the roofrack on their County. It wouldn't be difficult to make up your own slides and table though - nothing to it. ;)