Discovery 3-4 Front Recovery Points

[SeanC]

I have found a manufacturer (APT Fabrications) who may fabricate front recovery points for Discovery 3&4. He already makes them for Discovery 1&2.
They are priced at $120 a pair. I would like to get an indication of how many would be interested.

[Ferret]

I though the existing front and rear points on D3 / 4 were already rated for recovery?

[sheerluck]

That's what I thought too Ferret.

I'd be curious to find out how (and where) the proposed recovery points were to be secured to the chassis.

[SeanC]

I'd like to have the option to use an equaliser strap for frontal recoveries.

[BobD]

Surely a central recovery point means that you don't need an equalized pull?


I've never used my front recovery yet. Only the rear to pull out Patrols, Cruisers and D1's!

[Tombie]

A solid point steel braced between the frame (the factory one) is far better at load sharing than adding extra risk into the equation with more equipment.

[SeanC]

I would like to be able the spread the strain of the recovery over 2 recovery points.

[Tombie]

I would like to be able the spread the strain of the recovery over 2 recovery points.

You mean - Into a frame rail that isn't designed for it!!!!

A bridle still becomes a single point loading (on the front point)

Have you had a look at the design under there?
Have you seen how its engineered?
I'm guessing you're working on the theory of 2 is better than 1.

When you see how the frame is designed the point already there is more than capable, and a damn site better at sharing the load into the frame than any bolt on mount will ever be capable of..

[Stuart02]

This is in no way meant to be rude, but SeanC have you previously owned Pajeros? I ask because the integrity of the front factory recovery points was a point of debate and the wisdom was to always use a bridle to spread the load.

I think it's a different story with the design of the D3/4 point, and also the company's attitude to it - Mitsubishi Oz would never explicitly state that the Paj's points were anything more than nice strong tow hooks.

All that said, I wish both the Paj and D3/4's points were replaceable items. Not that most of us are going to come close to breaking either, but it's simply impossible to know how stressed they are. A climber would routinely replace any gear that he'd had a fall on, whether it looked fine or not. And it's more of an issue with second hand cars that you don't know the history of.

[Bytemrk]

I'm normally very conservative and careful about recovery points and where possible on other vehicles, including Defenders and earlier Discoverys would prefer to use a bridle.

However I am very comfortable that the factory points on the D3 or D4 are more than adequate.

In a situation they are not strong enough - you should not be using a snatch strap anyway, in my view.

[AnD3rew]

That is one mod I am happy to say I don't see any need for. SWMBO will be delighted.

[Grentarc]

According to Unsealed 4x4 on the subject of "Rated" recovery points -


The "rated" part, however, gets confusing. There is currently only one car manufacturer (Land Rover) that has done the extensive testing required in order to determine actual weight or force ratings for recovery points. Similarly there are only two aftermarket recovery point manufacturers that provide ratings. Why is this?RECOVERY POINTS VS TIE DOWN POINTS - Unsealed 4X4 (http://www.unsealed4x4.com.au/recovery-points-vs-tie-points/)

[Graeme]

How many Disco3s linked together using the front and rear hooks did LR dangle from a crane?

[sheerluck]

How many Disco3s linked together using the front and rear hooks did LR dangle from a crane?

This one Graeme?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=111341&stc=1&d=1468400392

[Bytemrk]

I was going to post that.... but I'm pretty sure they are demonstrating chassis strength.. not the recovery points.

They have some serious steel work attached to the chassis on these things....

Still damn impressive.

[A.J.M]

That picture shows chassis strength. Which is very impressive.

Having been dragged out of all sorts of locations front and back with my car, used it as an anchor for others to winch from and use it to aid with gardening... ( ahem ) it makes a good tree remover.. :D

I have no doubts about the strength of the factory recovery mounts.
They are likely one of the strongest factory mounts fitted to a 4x4 on sale.

I wouldn't personally see the point in adding more as it won't be as secure or as well designed as the factory mounts.

[AnD3rew]

That picture shows chassis strength. Which is very impressive.

Having been dragged out of all sorts of locations front and back with my car, used it as an anchor for others to winch from and use it to aid with gardening... ( ahem ) it makes a good tree remover.. :D

I have no doubts about the strength of the factory recovery mounts.
They are likely one of the strongest factory mounts fitted to a 4x4 on sale.

I wouldn't personally see the point in adding more as it won't be as secure or as well designed as the factory mounts.

Yes they didn't use the recovery point they bolted a bar to the chassis. Was for chassis strength.