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Carnut1100
16th July 2016, 09:13 PM
Hi everyone.

Just bought a nice 2000 D2.
Td5 auto.

Got it for a good price so naturally there are a few little niggles...

Drivers door locks with key but doesn't unlock. Seems this is a common problem? New actuator?
Who is the best to get one from and is it a big pain of a job?

Headlight washer is missing on one side. Should be an easy fix?

Backlight for the clock is out. Hard to change?

Does anyone have an instrument cluster cowling? This one is broken and held in with a screw bracket...

The auto gear knob swivels a bit. Is this a common issue and is it hard to fix?


EGR has been disconnected at the electrical connectors and vacuum hose but I'd like to remove the constriction as well. Any kit recommended or are they all good?

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This is a hose that goes from the intake pipe before the turbo and leads to a small box which also has hoses leading to the boost pipe and to the wastegate. What function does this hose do and what will it being disconnected like this cause?


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These are part of the EGR control system yes?

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This hose is resting on the intake manifold and disappears into the trans tunnel. Anybody know what it is?


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Can anyone i.d. this connector which is just in front of the windscreen on the driver's side?


Another big question.....I've filled it up once...and stopped when a flood of diesel came from under the rear of the car. The previous owner was routinely filling to the brim of the neck. What is likely to cause this? It won't be a leaking seal on the fuel pump because it was pouring out and stopped quickly. Not a slow leak.

And finally is anybody wrecking a D2a or any D2 with 7 seats?
Looking for the H-L/CDL lever off a D2a and a full 7 seat conversion preferably without the rear aircon setup...

Bohica
16th July 2016, 10:06 PM
Hi everyone.

Just bought a nice 2000 D2.
Td5 auto.

Got it for a good price so naturally there are a few little niggles...

Drivers door locks with key but doesn't unlock. Seems this is a common problem? New actuator?
Who is the best to get one from and is it a big pain of a job?

Headlight washer is missing on one side. Should be an easy fix?

Yes, this is an easy fix. Buy one from Roverlord or Rover parts.

Backlight for the clock is out. Hard to change?


Does anyone have an instrument cluster cowling? This one is broken and held in with a screw bracket...

The auto gear knob swivels a bit. Is this a common issue and is it hard to fix?


EGR has been disconnected at the electrical connectors and vacuum hose but I'd like to remove the constriction as well. Any kit recommended or are they all good?

This is on my to do list as well. I'm looking at
Land Rover TD5 Defender Discovery EGR Removal KIT Aluminium Performance Upgrade | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-TD5-Defender-Discovery-EGR-Removal-Kit-Aluminium-Performance-Upgrade-/151025812904?hash=item2329d705a8:g:iasAAOSwoudW2ds G)



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This is a hose that goes from the intake pipe before the turbo and leads to a small box which also has hoses leading to the boost pipe and to the wastegate. What function does this hose do and what will it being disconnected like this cause?

I had a quick look at my car, and I guess that the waste gate will not work.



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/484.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/carnut1100/media/Land%20Rover/The%20Discovery%202/20160715_084825_zpsdxkmn1re.jpg.html)
These are part of the EGR control system yes?

Yes


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/485.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/carnut1100/media/Land%20Rover/The%20Discovery%202/20160715_084848_zpsde9qxwpu.jpg.html)
This hose is resting on the intake manifold and disappears into the trans tunnel. Anybody know what it is?


Breather tube for the transfer case, or front diff and may be gear box. I have a manual so I am not sure about the auto.


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Can anyone i.d. this connector which is just in front of the windscreen on the driver's side?


Connectors for heated windscreen


Another big question.....I've filled it up once...and stopped when a flood of diesel came from under the rear of the car. The previous owner was routinely filling to the brim of the neck. What is likely to cause this? It won't be a leaking seal on the fuel pump because it was pouring out and stopped quickly. Not a slow leak.

And finally is anybody wrecking a D2a or any D2 with 7 seats?
Looking for the H-L/CDL lever off a D2a and a full 7 seat conversion preferably without the rear aircon setup...

Bottom left on the forum is a search page. Use that to find out further information. Works for me. I've had my Disco for nearly a year, so I am not an expert. You will get more responses to your requests. BTW welcome to the Land Rover community. Yes there are always a few niggles. Mine was new engine mounts, new head-liner, etc.

Markf
16th July 2016, 10:07 PM
Hi everyone.

Just bought a nice 2000 D2.
Td5 auto.

Got it for a good price so naturally there are a few little niggles...

Drivers door locks with key but doesn't unlock. Seems this is a common problem? New actuator?
Who is the best to get one from and is it a big pain of a job?

Headlight washer is missing on one side. Should be an easy fix?


It's an easy fix but a bit of a pain to get the hose reconnected. Use a worm drive hose clamp when you put it back together.


Backlight for the clock is out. Hard to change? Easy fix - http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-2/173544-disco-2-replacing-dashboard-atc-digital-clock-bulbs.html




Can anyone i.d. this connector which is just in front of the windscreen on the driver's side? That'll be the connector for the heated windscreen where fitted.

Bohica
16th July 2016, 10:13 PM
It's an easy fix but a bit of a pain to get the hose reconnected. Use a worm drive hose clamp when you put it back together.

I ended up buying the washer and connecting hose and replacing the lot. I hope you like lying on your back under cars :) I do a lot of that now.It's kind of fun and immensely satisfying to fix some thing or another.

Tins
16th July 2016, 11:11 PM
Wonder what's controlling the wastegate. Maybe it's been bypassed to somewhere else. There's a little solenoid valve attached under the A/C compressor which would normally control the wastegate. I'd guess the POV has changed that somehow.

Diff or gearbox breather.

Heated screen Don't worry, you'll find lot's of plugs not connected. It makes no sense to make different wiring looms for various states of trim. The Japanese were doing that in the fifties, it took until the nineties for LR ( and Jag and Rover and.... ) to wake up to it.

The diesel overflow thing. Did the bowser not cut out? Was the car full when the overflow happened?

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 09:34 AM
Been searching all week and have gone through 33 pages of threads in the D2 forum....

Thanks for all the info so far!

I'm thinking that what that hose goes to might be a boost modulator? I've seen that term coming up a bit so far.

EGR delete kit is good price. I'd machine one up out of ally except my current house doesn't have much workshop space so my metal lathe is in storage.

I've got a sagging head lining too...read a few threads in that one. No biggie.

The fuel issue....no, the pump didn't shut off.yes the tank was full. Full on the gauge anyway. I'm worried that there is a breather hose or something that has split or come off.
For the next 50km or so there was occasional drips of fuel. When i was filling it though it was nearing full when fuel just started flooding from under the car.
I've kept it near half since.

rob tilbury
17th July 2016, 10:14 AM
Has your transfer box got the parts inside for the diff lock ?
I have the 2002 and it hasn't

Tins
17th July 2016, 01:43 PM
I'm thinking that what that hose goes to might be a boost modulator? I've seen that term coming up a bit so far.



That's the thing I mentioned, below the AC compressor.
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The little nozzles are very easy to break. I'd investigate whether it's been broken ( bad) or replaced with some other system ( potentially good ).

Tins
17th July 2016, 01:50 PM
The fuel issue....no, the pump didn't shut off.yes the tank was full. Full on the gauge anyway. I'm worried that there is a breather hose or something that has split or come off.
For the next 50km or so there was occasional drips of fuel. When i was filling it though it was nearing full when fuel just started flooding from under the car.
I've kept it near half since.

I would be checking the hose that connects the filler neck to the tank. If the pump didn't shut off then there is no 'back pressure' coming up the filler neck, and of course the fuel will leak out all over.
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sierrafery
17th July 2016, 02:11 PM
Watching the first pic it seems that the crankcase breather(depression control) valve is disconnected as well or just the tube is in really bad shape cos it's not clear enough but that's bad for the engine either way

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 02:25 PM
Has your transfer box got the parts inside for the diff lock ?
I have the 2002 and it hasn't

Yes.
99-01 has internals. 01-03 doesn't and 03 onwards has everything.


The previous owner said he was filling it until the pump clicked amd that's what I normally do with all of my vehicles.
The amount of fuel that spilled seemed to be a lot faster than a leaking fuel pump gasket would do.

I pulled the air filter out and was amazed at how much dust there was in the airbox...especially as the filter was put in only about 2k ago.

MAF looks a little dirty so I'll give that a clean also.

Going to give it a full service with new oils right through.
I do oil and filter every 5000 on my cars. Don't think I'll do the centrifugal filter that often though
Also want to put a Provent on it and do a full intake and intercooler clean so I know it's starting from a good baseline.


Which is the best workshop manual and does anyone know where to get one at a reasonable price?

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 02:35 PM
Watching the first pic it seems that the crankcase breather(depression control) valve is disconnected as well or just the tube is in really bad shape cos it's not clear enough but that's bad for the engine either way

Pretty sure it's actually ok.

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 02:36 PM
I would be checking the hose that connects the filler neck to the tank. If the pump didn't shut off then there is no 'back pressure' coming up the filler neck, and of course the fuel will leak out all over.
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/medium/Screen_Shot_2016-07-17_at_2_48_08_PM.png

Thanks for that.
I'm thinking item 3 would be my prime culprit

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 02:44 PM
That's the thing I mentioned, below the AC compressor.
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/iu.jpg

The little nozzles are very easy to break. I'd investigate whether it's been broken ( bad) or replaced with some other system ( potentially good ).

That's the one!
It's there but the hose up to the intake pipe is broken and has been clamped as in the pic I posted.

discorevy
17th July 2016, 02:56 PM
Get yourself a new boost modulator, also check the fuel pump to tank seal ( number 7 in diagram) , these usually leak when the fuel pump has been changed and seal has been incorrectly fitted, and late 02 vehicles have the diff lock including controls as well ( d2a update)

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 03:02 PM
Any top sources for parts like filters and gaskets and the boost modulator etc?

I'm pretty comfortable with working on cars and with ordering parts online.
I've messed around with Volvo 240s for years (still got a 242GT and a 240 van) as well as Peugeots and old Ford Transits both of which I would get parts from the UK for.
As for reliability and spending time underneath, nothing this can throw at me will be anything like what the 1969 Transit was.....I got to the point of being able to swap the gearbox in 45 mins flat and engine swaps were down to a couple of hours....

Tins
17th July 2016, 03:07 PM
Which is the best workshop manual and does anyone know where to get one at a reasonable price?

RAVE. Incisor ( Dave ), owner of this site, will sell it to you. Need to run it on a computer.

That's where the pic of the fuel tank came from.

Tins
17th July 2016, 03:10 PM
Any top sources for parts like filters and gaskets and the boost modulator etc?

I'm pretty comfortable with working on cars and with ordering parts online.
I've messed around with Volvo 240s for years (still got a 242GT and a 240 van) as well as Peugeots and old Ford Transits both of which I would get parts from the UK for.
As for reliability and spending time underneath, nothing this can throw at me will be anything like what the 1969 Transit was.....I got to the point of being able to swap the gearbox in 45 mins flat and engine swaps were down to a couple of hours....

Mario. Rovelord, vendor on this site, is pretty good, well I think so. Good service and posts anywhere. ( he runs an ebay store as well, but AULRO members get a discount, so PM him.) There's a section for vendors here somewhere, look there.

Tins
17th July 2016, 03:17 PM
Thanks for that.
I'm thinking item 3 would be my prime culprit

I'd have a good look at item 22.

Bohica
17th July 2016, 04:12 PM
Yes.
99-01 has internals. 01-03 doesn't and 03 onwards has everything.



I do oil and filter every 5000 on my cars. Don't think I'll do the centrifugal filter that often though


The centripital filter is changed with every oil change. The full flow every third, according to Land Rover.

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 05:14 PM
I'd have a good look at item 22.

If it was that one wouldn't or leak whenever fuel is being pumped in?
It doesn't leak when I'm filling it or in normal use. Only when I'm pumping and the tank reaches full.

bee utey
17th July 2016, 05:38 PM
If it was that one wouldn't or leak whenever fuel is being pumped in?
It doesn't leak when I'm filling it or in normal use. Only when I'm pumping and the tank reaches full.

The 25mm ID fast fill breather hose goes from the filler neck to the top of the fuel tank. It's not made of particularly good quality rubber and yours has probably split.

Tins
17th July 2016, 05:45 PM
If it was that one wouldn't or leak whenever fuel is being pumped in?
It doesn't leak when I'm filling it or in normal use. Only when I'm pumping and the tank reaches full.

In that case I'm with Bee Utey. Which was your guess too, I believe.

Tins
17th July 2016, 05:47 PM
The centripital filter is changed with every oil change. The full flow every third, according to Land Rover.

That's why they made it so easy to get at:censored:

Carnut1100
17th July 2016, 05:48 PM
I'm betting it's a bitch to change....

woko
17th July 2016, 07:43 PM
I'm betting it's a bitch to change....

The centrifugal filter is easy to get to. The full flow is a bitch.
Cut a centrifugal filter open and see how much is in it.
Definitely change the centrifugal filter every service
The Land Rover service schedule is 20000km. I do mine at 10000km with centrifugal filter change. All engine filters at 20000km. Driveline oils, coolant, brake fluid and auto filter at 40000km

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Carnut1100
18th July 2016, 04:57 PM
The list of work needed is in....
Rear driveshaft doughnut
Front discs and pads
Front caliper (reason for warped disc...)
Radiator and boost and other hoses
Leaking rad
Leaking transfer case seals
Fuel filler breather hose
Head gasket is just beginning to leak so it will come off and at the same time new injector seals and injector loom and fully cleaned intercooler and at the same time a full service with all new fluids and filters.

Lined up a set of 3rd row seats too.
Now to find a D2a CDL lever...

Bohica
18th July 2016, 05:58 PM
I'm betting it's a bitch to change....

Yes apparently it is.

RAVE says remove the turbo heat shield, I couldn't remove it, well I could remove it, but putting the rear most bolt back in, I thought might be a bit tricky. A quote from a Land Rover mechanic, to change this filter, may increase my enthusiasm and ability.

Cheers

Julian

Tins
18th July 2016, 08:45 PM
That's why they made it so easy to get at:censored:

Used the wrong bit to quote.

Tins
18th July 2016, 09:11 PM
The list of work needed is in....
Rear driveshaft doughnut
Front discs and pads
Front caliper (reason for warped disc...)
Radiator and boost and other hoses
Leaking rad
Leaking transfer case seals
Fuel filler breather hose
Head gasket is just beginning to leak so it will come off and at the same time new injector seals and injector loom and fully cleaned intercooler and at the same time a full service with all new fluids and filters.

Lined up a set of 3rd row seats too.
Now to find a D2a CDL lever...

Seems pretty staightforward. Shame about the head gasket. Later model, so the plastic dowells shouldn't be there.
You may find though, as a 2002, that the CDL is missing more than a lever..

Fluids
18th July 2016, 10:58 PM
Bohica. Slot the back bracket on the turbo heat shield by filing a slot in a downwards direction. Then you just slip an 8mm socket on a short extension through the access hole, loosen the bolt a few turns and the heat shield lifts up sliding over the bolt ... Reverse procedure to refit.

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Carnut1100
19th July 2016, 05:37 AM
Seems pretty staightforward. Shame about the head gasket. Later model, so the plastic dowells shouldn't be there.
You may find though, as a 2002, that the CDL is missing more than a lever..

Its a 2000....so probably has plastic dowels and has CDL internals.

Tins
19th July 2016, 10:03 AM
Its a 2000....so probably has plastic dowels and has CDL internals.

Hmm. Eyes must be getting dim.

Carnut1100
20th July 2016, 06:56 PM
Had a flat battery yesterday....mrs left lights on. Afterwards the trans lights came on and she rang me. I said to shut it down and restart which cleared them.
Seems to have nicer shift points now so maybe it reset any adaptive learning....

Cleaned the MAF as well and seems to have picked up a bit more torque and subjective early days but fuel consumption appears to be a bit better.
Can't be absolutely certain as i can't fill it to the brim until I've done the fuel breather hose.

Pedro_The_Swift
20th July 2016, 07:05 PM
LR say shouldnt fill to the brim anyway,, at least with V8's,, cant see why rattlers would be any different,,:D

Carnut1100
21st July 2016, 06:51 PM
Lots of cars say don't do that because a hot day the fuel can expand and cause issues.
I live in the bush and after i fuel I'm gonna burn 20km worth before I park it anyhow so it's not an issue.
Most of yew time I fuel in the way out somewhere anyhow.
I fill to the brim and note odometer reading to keep a running fuel consumption record. With the Hilux i can look up my spreadsheet and graph the fuel consumption over time as well as the running cost in cents per km.

geordiepride
28th July 2016, 07:17 PM
what ever LR say I would take with a pinch of salt ..I got told that I would be impossible for me to change the harmonic balance unless I had the correct tools...also got told by LR I could not install a fuel pressure gauge on the regulator return side ,,also got told that I would need to purchase special tools to remove injectors to renew combustion washers ...I asked them do you loan /deposit on tools to remove injectors they said no as the injector pulling tools are 1500 bucks ..but they tried to sell me the tools LOL


the same goes to filling fuel to the neck


if I never fuelled up to the neck I would never of found this leak looking at the hose it has been split for some time going to run it for a bit to bring fuel level down before replacing the hose


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schuy1
29th July 2016, 07:46 PM
Those pipes are a pain. The material they are constructed from seems to be a mix of plasticene and cow dung . Well that's how long they last. I ended up running mine inside a piece of poly pipe then zip tyed that to the main inlet hose. I found that otherwise it would sag and kink, then could not fill the tank easily.

Carnut1100
4th August 2016, 10:29 PM
The estimated cost of repairs is more than we paid for the car.....
A lot of it is labour though, so all the easier stuff like pulling the fuel tank to fix the breather I'll do myself.
Gonna get the transfer case reseal done by the mech as I don't have a hoist or transmission jack and I've already damaged my arm pulling a Volvo overdrive box...
Brakes are easy.
Contemplating swapping the radiator myself.
Head I'll probably get done. I've done head gaskets many times but these are a bit more involved than a Falcon and I need to keep downtime to a minimum.

Missed a CDL lever and linkage for $110....rang up just as he was putting it in a package for someone else!

Other than that, loving the Disco.....