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sclarke
24th October 2005, 09:39 AM
Thought you all might like this story about a Friday night drive that went wrong.

This is the extract from the 4wd Monthly Site......

Well after a fantastic few hours out at toolangi on Friday the 21st i thought id put my new post up about the 24 hour Toolangi.
The next event will be in the next milenium or when hell freezes over.

OK the Story.

I was allowed to Ride with Tom on the original Toolangi Firday night run, So Tom with Dave came over to pick me up. When they got there the Middy had a wheel bearing problem that dave tightened up in my drive. Off we went, but Tom was reluctant. it was on the next stop that had tom worried.. after coming around a corner the middy shock and wobbled like a scared fat chick in front of the icecream shop....
combination of worn draglinks and worn bearings. Tom wanted to pull out but Dave and i said "She'll be right mate" so aff we went. We met up with Scott, Lisa, Steve (rangie), Daniel, PJ, Dave and mate in there patrol/mav. We all headed off at about 9pm and went up Airoplane and started down the Goat track when Tom had brake problems. Tom called it a night and as i was in with PJ at the time i stayed on with the gang. At this time i could have pulled the pin and missed out on "Lemans 24 hr Toolangi"
But in to zook i went. After PJ scared me a few times going down the hill i thought this would be good in the wet....
Next was the climb up "Campsite Track" The start of the End.
It was wet, but not too bad... compared to 5am...
Steve power up the hill and found the Rangie with JT's was hurting a bit and had alot of goes to get over a tree root. the root was big and the ground being wet and steep made it hard. He opted the thru the tree's and new track to be made option.... next was the RH turn around a tree. it was not easy in the dry let alone night and rain.... so off he went. Nope the ledge was too steep. opted the LH side option. after he backed to far back we had the mighty GQ pull him up and out. Then came the wombat holes or now called the roll over holes... these are about 1 meter deep and Steve opted the chicked route. Good call. Then came the slip into the Tree Trick. Under power the Rangie pulled Steve into the side of a tree. Lucky it was only a bent door and some pride. Note to all 4wd'ers. Keep your head and hands in the car.......they get crushed otherwise....
Then came the rescue mission. i think from memory scott came to winch him up, as its starting to get blurred with the sleep loss and grog mixed in...
Then the problems started.
We had Steve of the tree and all safe on a flat peice of moving mud... then the front under HorsePower slipped in a wombat hole and he had to be snatched. During the snatch the Rangie poped out of Low wange and shot back and fell into the 1 meter deep wombat hole. combination of mud, no drive and a deep hole put the rangie gently on its side. Lucky for Steve it was a gentle roll over. Steve was scared and confused and with some help we got him up and out the Passanger door that was facing the moon at the time....
We all confirmed he was ok and rethought our progress.
Scott then headed south to do the long way around to get to the top. This was to take a good 1/2 hour but after the 2nd tire rolled of the rim and a broken draglink ball on the "s" arm that ended Neds Night.
At that point we relised the Zook was dead due to a sleepy battery. So the tally was Ned 500m to 1km away on the top side of the track Dead, The Rangie having a Kip on its side, the zook sleeping on a tree root and the only survivor. Dave in the Mighty GQ Shorty. After a 30 sec discussion the GQ went out for help. The help at this stage was Daniels 4 Runner..... Ohh God we thought... we will be here until Xmas..... How wrong we were.... Daniel was the 1st saviour of the day.... well night i suppose..
about 2-3 hours later they returned.
Ned, Daniel, Dave and mate in the GQ with daniels 4 runner. Thank god for repco......
During this time i walked up to see if Lisa was ok in Neds car and thought i could fix neds car. so with a hacksaw i and lisa went bush to find a fence. about 2 hours of walking found us a fence. we cut mr farmers fence and borrowed about 2 meters of barb wire. The plan was to wire the draglink back onto the S Arm. Plan failed when i inspected further the damage that was done to the arm. At that time the crew had returned at about 3.30am. We headed back to Steve and Sleepy Pete to recover the Rangie. Daniel faced down the hill and had the GQ connected to him up top as ballast and the winch was connected to the Chassis of the Rangie and it was winched over. As soon as it was on its feet we secured the B Pillar to a nearby tree with a strap. as we backed the winch off it wanted to roll back, so more pulling was needed. With the combination of me tentioning the strap to the tree and the winch pulling we got him on a fairly level spot. nose in a hole to get the car level. This was a slight problem as the track was partially obscured with the back of the rangie so getting past was not easy. Daniel got past and we down to jump start the Zook. At this time the rain had set in really well and i was soaked as i became the camera man/ winch/ jumperlead/ girl friday Bitch. We jumped the zook and PJ reversed off a ledge to find the zook wanting to roll over. Some quick thinking by me saw me leap off a ledge fly thru the air and land on the zook to stop it rollling. in that breif time the words. "Ohh **** im going to roll" obmitted from PJ's mouth. We got him level and spun him arround. To head out the way we came in. At the time the rain was so bad the himm at the top was flowing to the bottom... we had a land slide underway..... it was like a scene from a movie where the soil just flows down the hill........... Threadbo came to mind...
We drove out and headed back to Melb for breaky and the recovery Crew.

The Rescue Story.

Saturday Morning at about 7am while having Macca's in Sillydale we were ringing around to get parts and work out who had the best rig for the job to tow the rangie out if need be.
Straws were drawn and the Fender came up Trumps....
I was planning on not taking it out until the High country but that soon changed.
We got back to my place and the lads and Lass crashed on the Couch while i grabbed the simex's and threw them in the back. We loaded up with some gear and headed into meet Dave at Hardcore 4x4. Dave opened up the Workshop early and was looking through his spare parts to find what we needed. Lucky for Ned Dave had the right parts available. We grabbed them and helped dave fix a few Customer cars before we headed out. I threw the Simex's on "Camila Ahhchoo" and we headed back out to Campsite track in the Defender and Daniels 4runner.
We got up to Neds car and started work, Rangie Dude walked out to the Rangie and had a tinker.
I and Daniel drove down to the Rangie and assessed the situation in the daylight. This was not going to be easy. Very wet chewed up track and it was steep. The Rangie had to be pulled up a hill out of a hole before he was back on the track then he had to be dragged to the top before we could do any real work.
Steve kicked it in the guts and told us the oil light would not go out. Yep pump ran dry when it was on its side so she had no oil pressure. Only fix is to pull the pump out and pack it with Vaseline and that would help it prime up.
I looked at the track and as i was already halfway down the only way out was down to the bottom and turn around.
Daniel jumped in for the ride and we squeezed past the rangie and slid our way to the bottom. we turned around and i patted Camilla Ahhchoo on the dash and told her she could do it... Daniel looked at me and laughed.... was it in gesture or Fear???
I hit the gas and ploughed up the hill, jumping over tree stumps and roots and giving it more stick than i wanted to. i had to make some new tracks and a group of tree's Ned said you could not get thru i did and full noise.... When i got to the top Daniel looked at me and had a grin from ear to ear and said "That was awsome" Rangie Dude was Punching the Air and screamed with his crackly lost voice "The mighty Defender".
We filled the Rangie up with Petrol and then worked out that no oil pressure meant a tow all the way out.
Daniel and i went back to grab his rig and Neds was almost ready when we got back. Daniel and Ned drove back to the Rangie and the short straw was drawn to find Daniel was the one who would winch 1st.
Bull bar against the tree with me connected incase something let loose and away he went. 2 full lengths of the winch cable and it was Neds Turn. The Repco on Daniels has proven to be a good thing. Cheap and it works.
Ned pulled up to the best available tree and kept winching until the Rangie was at a spot i could have a go at Snatching up.
I backed down and 3 straps were connected together via lumps of wood. I then started to snatch him out. Each time pulling him up a few feet at a time. After many attempts i got him to a point where we could get one snatch on it and get him up to level ground. By then the Track was Rooted.. i had ripped the crap out of it. it looked like a tractor and plough had been in.
I then snatched some more, it was not easy as the track was not straight and i had to pull him threw trees and each snatch pulled my backend 1 meter across and tried to pull me into the Trees. all of a sudden the Rangie popped out of the track and we were off. I darted threw the track at full noise in Low 1 and Steve did not care if he bounced off trees to get him up to the top. We all cheered as it had taken 3 hours to get him up.
We then tried to Prime the pump with a hose, oil and compressed air, but nope she was not going to work.
We were about 30km from Glenburn and it was time to get him out. it was about 4pm and getting dark so we chose to pull him out as far as we could. With trees down and some killer kills and desents this was going to be fun....
I pulled him out past the 1st problem tree that was down and then the 2nd one caused grief we continued on and got to the top of a killer hill. The decision was made to let Steve roll down on his own with the engine as brakes and the normal brakes. Dave disconnected the ignition to make sure it would not fire up on the downhill.
Steve got down and it was a bit hairy, he looked at once stage as though he might roll again. But he got down with no major problems.
Then came the tug up the hill on the other side. This proved to hard for Camila as I was looking traction just as I crested the top. So we reversed down and connected 3 straps again and I went for it like that fat chick that was at the icecream shop.
Cheers again as we got him up. At this time my mate Mark called me and told me he was at my house and 1 day early from his trip around Aust. Time was running out and we needed to get Steve out. We stepped up the pace and dragged him out further. The Next hill was found to be a challenge as Steve had to go down on his own again. It was too steep to lower him. De drove down on engine and brakes and I drove the chicken track as it was easier, but not simple like the one Steve was on. He was in deep ruts that would help guide him down. At the bottom we connected him up again and the snatch disconnected itself halfway across the river… Steve jumped out climbed on his bonnet and grabbed the strap while I reversed back to have him reconnect the Strap. Dave videoed it as it looked great and showed the determination of Steve to get out and not get wet…..
I popped him out and we headed off. The Track had been recently bulldozed at was like porridge. Ned was going off and sliding all over the place. I was having an interesting time as mud was flicking off the front tires and coming through the windows and hitting the inside of the back window. So now I know how my back window gets mud on it on the inside……
I pulled him back out and up some hills until we got back out to the Melba Hwy.
We towed him back at 30kmh to the Glenburn Road house to find they had no power and were Shut. Tragedy struck when we realised that the pub was out of power also.
It was now over 24 hours since we left Melbourne on Friday night and we were tired hungry and dying for a beer. If Roothy was here he would have been cursing like my Granny at the rabbits in her Veggie patch.
Dave and Daniel went to the pub just incase and the pub was open and working on candle light and bottles instead oaf the tap. Dave came back with a few cans and we had a drink or 10. RACV was called and we left Steve to wait for his tow.
We had dinner at KFC in Sillydale and the food had never tasted so good. By then it was about 11pm and we headed home. It was a long day or 2 and I cant even remember closing my eyes when I hit the pillow. Daniel crashed at my place, so with me and my missus, Mark, Helen and the kids and Daniel it was a full house.
I think my Dog jumped into bed with Daniel………

So who’s up for the Next “Lemans Toolangi 24 hour”??????

kaistuff
24th October 2005, 10:02 AM
nice trip you had Steve where are the photos?


let me know when the next trip is and i let you know if i can come style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

sclarke
24th October 2005, 10:12 AM
No pix yet, but i'm doing a DVD.

hiline
24th October 2005, 10:16 AM
i'm sorry i couldn't help you out steve


if i had time i would of


guess you wont be doing that in a hurry again 8O

sclarke
24th October 2005, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by hiline
i'm sorry i couldn't help you out steve


if i had time i would of


guess you wont be doing that in a hurry again 8O

Thank you for your kind offer on Sat, it was not a easy Job, but the Defender proves its self once again.

You will have to come out with us one day to have a play..... these guys are getting keen...

DiscoTDI
24th October 2005, 07:36 PM
You can laugh about it now 8)

ntguy
24th October 2005, 11:44 PM
Good to see aussie mateship still going strong, however I have to say was it smart being on wet track at night???

Also to make mattes worse and I qoute" Then came the rescue mission. i think from memory scott came to winch him up, as its starting to get blurred with the sleep loss and grog mixed in... "


grog and 4wd dont mix i think. then to continue drinking in the rescue mission.

Luckly no one was hurt or killed.

Sorry to be a spoilt sport. But sound a bit of a recipe for a potentioal diseastor(spelling **** I know)

sclarke
25th October 2005, 06:39 AM
You read that wrong.
none of us were Drinking, but the night before had been out on the town.

Wet Track at night....

What track in Vic is not wet at the moment.
Why do we go out??? For the challenge. if its Dry then its a walk in the park.
We aim for wet tracks and night makes it far more fun.

A few of the guys from this forum have done the same. There is 4wding then there is 4wding....

My Defender has Simex's for a reason..... to get thru all the slush, if i never went into mud then id have AT's...........

Just the way some of us are, some would not do it, we do.

As you said, somone could have got hurt.
As soon as you leave the black stuff and have to put it in LowRange you are taking a risk. Anything can happen, i cant remeber 1 time in all my 4wding that a person could not drive due to injury. you see more injurys cutting firewood with an axe.
Same can be said for car damage. As soon as you leave the black stuff the risk goes up 10 fold. we dont aim for it, but it happens.

Come down one day and the AULRO Mexicans can take you for a trip, you might enjoy it. I'm guessing NT does not have the tracks we do.....

Ace
25th October 2005, 08:23 AM
Sounds like a worse version of Greylandy, myself, OI and Scouses trip to the Jenolan caves NP. Cant wait for the photos. Matt

hiline
25th October 2005, 10:20 AM
well said steve style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

dont think the guy's understand how bad or wet these tracks down here get 8O 8O


all the pics and video's dont do it justice :? :?

next year the rumble is in Vic style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

then they will see just how bad they can be :wink: :wink:

sclarke
25th October 2005, 10:22 AM
I'm not normally into Cross promotion of forums but here is the link to the post on 4wd Monthly.

http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/index.p...;threadid=13318 (http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=13318)

Steve

Ace
25th October 2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by hiline
well said steve style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

dont think the guy's understand how bad or wet these tracks down here get 8O 8O


all the pics and video's dont do it justice :? :?

next year the rumble is in Vic style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

then they will see just how bad they can be :wink: :wink:


and we cant wait. I am not sure how many people will make the trip down, but i plan to be there. Its looking like i wont be able to make the National gathering due to budget constraints and i would rather do the vic run anyway.

Hiline- stacey is asking what she will do when we go out bush. Is there any way we could organise an itinerary of stuff the women can do, maybe take the kids to the Zoo or something like that. Matt

sclarke
25th October 2005, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by hiline
well said steve style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

dont think the guy's understand how bad or wet these tracks down here get 8O 8O


all the pics and video's dont do it justice :? :?

next year the rumble is in Vic style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

then they will see just how bad they can be :wink: :wink:

Whats say we make a big weekend of it... 3 or 4 days with 1 day inbetween to recover???
Toolangi, Mt Dissa, Yarra ranges or Gembrook????
3 days of Mud and fun, rocky and Steep track should be Prime....

Ray best we talk and i'll work out some tracks... Might have to invite some of my toyo mates for us to recover.

Even Camel Mark agree's that Victoria has the best tracks, with some awsome climbs and desents..... and MUD.....

Ace
25th October 2005, 12:21 PM
I will create a new thread for some suggestions. I know its nearly 12 months away but if we plan it now people have plenty of time work out whether or not they can come. Money pending stacey and i will make it a longer event and maybe do the great ocean road first or afterwards, the weekend planned is the middle weekend of my holidays. Matt

MacMan
25th October 2005, 03:13 PM
Sounds like I need to fuel up the trailbike or hitch a ride with you guys!

kaistuff
25th October 2005, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by MacMan
Sounds like I need to fuel up the trailbike or hitch a ride with you guys!


Na it will be an easy trip just for nsw and disco's driver 8O 8O 8O style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif :wink: :wink:

hiline
25th October 2005, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by kaistuff+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kaistuff)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-MacMan
Sounds like I need to fuel up the trailbike or hitch a ride with you guys!


Na it will be an easy trip just for nsw and disco's driver 8O 8O 8O style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif :wink: :wink:[/b][/quote]


style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

if you believe kai your crazier than i thought :wink:

kaistuff
25th October 2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by hiline+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hiline)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by kaistuff@
<!--QuoteBegin-MacMan
Sounds like I need to fuel up the trailbike or hitch a ride with you guys!


Na it will be an easy trip just for nsw and disco's driver 8O 8O 8O style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif :wink: :wink:


style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

if you believe kai your crazier than i thought :wink:[/b][/quote]


I mean Modified disco's 8O

MacMan
25th October 2005, 05:59 PM
Nope, not convinced. Is the roofrack free this time Ray?

ntguy
25th October 2005, 10:34 PM
Sorry guys if I read it wrong. I must admit never been off roading in winter sth of the border. Only is summer time around Savernake and Wangratta, Cobram etc. Different country I know.

BTW I am in Bangladesh at the moment. They dont need too touch a drink here, Every day and I mean every day there is always a bus or truck accident on the highway I have to travel, Moe Fos are damn right crazy.

sclarke
26th October 2005, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by ntguy
Sorry guys if I read it wrong. I must admit never been off roading in winter sth of the border. Only is summer time around Savernake and Wangratta, Cobram etc. Different country I know.

BTW I am in Bangladesh at the moment. They dont need too touch a drink here, Every day and I mean every day there is always a bus or truck accident on the highway I have to travel, Moe Fos are damn right crazy.

Those area's in Vic you have been are so flat and boring and Dry. i know as i lived up there....
Come down to the High Country or Yarra ranges that will wake you up.

What in hell are you doing in the back of bum****???

Ace
26th October 2005, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by kaistuff+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kaistuff)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-MacMan
Sounds like I need to fuel up the trailbike or hitch a ride with you guys!


Na it will be an easy trip just for nsw and disco's driver 8O 8O 8O style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif :wink: :wink:[/b][/quote]

Go easy Kai, i drive and Disco and come from NSW. Also are you forgeting that a Disco is a rangie underneath. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

kaistuff
26th October 2005, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Ace


Go easy Kai, i drive and Disco and come from NSW. Also are you forgeting that a Disco is a rangie underneath. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

NO JUST HAVING A BIT OF FUN style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
AND GET THE POSTS UP :wink: :wink:

Ace
26th October 2005, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by kaistuff+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kaistuff)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace


Go easy Kai, i drive and Disco and come from NSW. Also are you forgeting that a Disco is a rangie underneath. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

NO JUST HAVING A BIT OF FUN style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
AND GET THE POSTS UP :wink: :wink:[/b][/quote]

I know Kai, i just posted so you could post again to reply. You scratch my back i scatch yours. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

kaistuff
26th October 2005, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by kaistuff@
<!--QuoteBegin-Ace


Go easy Kai, i drive and Disco and come from NSW. Also are you forgeting that a Disco is a rangie underneath. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

NO JUST HAVING A BIT OF FUN style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
AND GET THE POSTS UP :wink: :wink:

I know Kai, i just posted so you could post again to reply. You scratch my back i scatch yours. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/b][/quote]


thanks ace style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Ace
27th October 2005, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by kaistuff+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kaistuff)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-kaistuff@
<!--QuoteBegin-Ace


Go easy Kai, i drive and Disco and come from NSW. Also are you forgeting that a Disco is a rangie underneath. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

NO JUST HAVING A BIT OF FUN style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
AND GET THE POSTS UP :wink: :wink:

I know Kai, i just posted so you could post again to reply. You scratch my back i scatch yours. :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/b][/quote]


thanks ace style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/b][/quote]

No worries mate, its all part of the service. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

kaistuff
27th October 2005, 11:30 AM
Ah, yeah, I agree. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif :wink: