Bikini Atoll A bomb tests, hot from the National Security Archive

[bob10]

Bikini A-Bomb Test 1946 Turned Ships into "Radioactive Stoves (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nukevault/ebb555-Bikini-A-Bomb-Test-1946-Turned-Ships-into-Radioactive-Stoves/index.html)

[trog]

Damnation , I thought this was going to have pics of hot chicks in bikinis !

[sheerluck]

A very interesting article, just shows how far the understanding of nuclear science and radiation has come in those 70 years.

Mind you, I'd never heard about the story of those Bikinians' relocation, and how it went so badly wrong before.

[bob10]

Interesting discussion about China, during the Vietnam War.


http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nukevault/special/doc12.pdf

[bob10]

There are 3 programs called, " 24 hours after Hiroshima ", on youtube, very confronting. I will not post them here. Any one wanting to know the full horror of nuclear War should watch them. When I was instructing at the N.B.C.D. school , R.A.N., when asked to explain the effects of a nuclear explosion, the usual joke was to reply " one flash, and you're ash". Says it all, really. This is about the Bikini bombs.


https://youtu.be/8Tjj2pq7FiE

[newhue]

A very interesting article, just shows how far the understanding of nuclear science and radiation has come in those 70 years.

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Though the nuclear disasters in Japan and Russia power stations show how far we haven't come. To think the yanks have nuclear powered war ships and submarines worries me a lot. War machines are dispensable things made to go into battle. To think they are superior and unsinkable is folly, the yanks proved that with the Titanic a long time ago.

[Tombie]

Though the nuclear disasters in Japan and Russia power stations show how far we haven't come. To think the yanks have nuclear powered war ships and submarines worries me a lot. War machines are dispensable things made to go into battle. To think they are superior and unsinkable is folly, the yanks proved that with the Titanic a long time ago.



What? And the thought that the Soviet Union had Nuclear submarines which are now in disrepair doesn't?

At least the Yanks are still maintaining theirs...

[sheerluck]

Though the nuclear disasters in Japan and Russia power stations show how far we haven't come. To think the yanks have nuclear powered war ships and submarines worries me a lot. War machines are dispensable things made to go into battle. To think they are superior and unsinkable is folly, the yanks proved that with the Titanic a long time ago.

The point I was making was the understanding that we have on the danger of radioactive materials. I doubt you'll find anyone casually attempting to mop up plutonium contaminated water any more, since we now know that doing so may cook you from the inside out, and make bits and pieces fall off.

Chernobyl and Fukushima are totally different cases. The former down to a "what happens if we try this", in a well meaning way, the latter down to sheer human folly at building a nuclear power plant on the edge of a geologically active area.

And why specifically worry about the Americanist nuclear subs? Given that Russia, China, India, France and the UK have them already, and Brazil have some planned, and the only reported nuclear incidents have been with Russian subs, I know where my worry would be directed.

[Ferret]

... To think they are superior and unsinkable is folly, the yanks proved that with the Titanic a long time ago.

The Titanic was built and owned by the British. :)

Maybe the ice burg was a Yanky one, sent out to sink the unsinkable to prove a point, but who really knows about these things. I suspect the Russians probably owned more ice burgs than the Yanks at the time. :D

Anyway for those thinking of making there own bombs : A Guide to Nuclear Weapons (http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/)

[sheerluck]

The Titanic was built and owned by the British. :)

Maybe the ice burg was a Yanky one, sent out to sink the unsinkable to prove a point, but who really knows about these things. I suspect the Russians probably owned more ice burgs than the Yanks at the time. :D

Strictly speaking, the White Star Line was a subsidiary of the US based International Mercantile Marine Co from 1902.

But yes, the Titanic was British designed and built.

[Ferret]

Hmmm, perhaps your right about that.

[Disco Muppet]

British built.... That's why it leaked I guess...

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[bob10]

Built by Harland and Wolf, Belfast. Her architect, Thomas Andrews, went down with the ship. If the nut cases in Korea can smuggle weapons grade uranium to the nut cases in the Middle East, the loss of life on the Titanic will look like a walk in the park, somewhere.

[rar110]

I think Bob posted this previously, also very interesting.

https://youtu.be/310-GYiitpM

[newhue]

yeh got some of my wires crossed. Point was the powers that be never thought the Titanic would sink. I bet some thought Pearl Harbour would never happen either. But if humans think they are smart enough to fiddle with nuclear war machines, or stupid enough to build a US supplied nuclear reactor for a power station in a river bed on a fault line, so be it. I guess I have nothing or will have by the looks of the future.

[Tombie]

Well unlike those who died before 1946...

We all have a level of Strontium in our bodies that no one before that date ever did...

[bob10]

Strontium is naturally occurring in the soil, also produced by burning coal or fossil fuels. It is carried around with dust particles, and we breath it in, however it is considered to only be harmful in very large doses. Strontium 90 is produced from nuclear explosions, and nuclear power stations which have had accidents [ Chernobyl, etc.] It is a killer, causing leukemia and bone cancers. For a detailed explanation, read this from the USA.

ATSDR - Public Health Statement: Strontium (http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=654&tid=120)

[cafe latte]

I think Bob posted this previously, also very interesting.

https://youtu.be/310-GYiitpM

It is a perfect example of how stupid people can be. A dog would never poop in its bed, but the human race is tying very hard to make our home uninhabitable! Not very intelligent. Scary how many ' tests' were done from the 80's onward when people knew all the dangers and the damage each test was doing.
Chris