Control Arm Bush Remover

[carlschmid2002]

I am thinking of purchasing one of these. With the kit and the press it still works out cheaper than buying two control arms here. I figure I could earn a few beers with the number of D3s and D4s getting around these days racking up a few Ks. Has anyone used one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ogsd8X1rY

[Tombie]

I have one on order - no stock until Mid August apparently.

[Tombie]

Just for the record. Front Lower arm kit and press is about $1300.00.
A complete front Upper/Lower & Rear Upper/Lower kit is about $3,000

Front Lower arms replaced at Dealer is $1200 inc new bolts, ball joints etc

[carlschmid2002]

I have one on order - no stock until Mid August apparently.

Exactly. I figure my next car will be a used D4 so it will pay for itself. If i damage a control arm I think there are plenty of spares lying around the country with old bushes in them.

[carlschmid2002]

Just for the record. Front Lower arm kit and press is about $1300.00.
A complete front Upper/Lower & Rear Upper/Lower kit is about $3,000

Front Lower arms replaced at Dealer is $1200 inc new bolts, ball joints etc

As I was brushed off by the Australian distributor I am dealing with them direct and the prices I have been quoted are significantly less than that. I am working on my iPad as I left my laptop at work but front lower arm kit with postage is $600 approx. The press which is not available until mid August is a bit more. If yo PM me with email address I will send you the quote. If I buy all the pieces to press every bush on the car it about $1200. I figured I will buy just the lower kit first.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Front Lower arms replaced at Dealer is $1200 inc new bolts, ball joints etc
Interesting, How much of that cost was labour and how much for the parts?

[Tombie]

Interesting, How much of that cost was labour and how much for the parts?



Unsure... They just quote $1200 R&R

[carlschmid2002]

That wouldn't be arms either. Just bushes and labour. You do need a wheel alignment as well

[Ferret]

I was quoted $1300 fitted incl. wheel alignment from Southern, Perth. That was without the discount Southern offer to TW4 members.

I ended up purchasing the controls arms from Southern, list price $467 each. With TW4 discount - $330 each. DiscoWA kindly gave me a hand to fit.

So $1200 all up from a dealer seems in the ball park from my experience.

[carlschmid2002]

Having a piece of kit that can do it over and over without removing the arm from the ca seems like a good investment to me. I know as soon as the bushes are changed I will take it in for a proper wheel alignment.

[Tombie]

Just to be clear about my comment above..

LR Dealer does replacement Arms - $1200.00 inc alignment and fitting.

I'm still getting the Press Kit for Home Work.

[Plane Fixer]

I have just ordered the Laser bush tools for front and rear bushes on the front arms. I also have the bushes coming as well.
I will be fitting them to both the front arms I changed several months ago.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Having a piece of kit that can do it over and over without removing the arm from the ca seems like a good investment to me. I know as soon as the bushes are changed I will take it in for a proper wheel alignment.
I was told that the bushes can only be replaced a max of 3 times and a marking is put on the bush when fitted to show how many times it has been replaced. I was also told replacing the entire arm was better than replacing just the bushes.

[carlschmid2002]

I was told that the bushes can only be replaced a max of 3 times and a marking is put on the bush when fitted to show how many times it has been replaced. I was also told replacing the entire arm was better than replacing just the bushes.

From my limited research it would seem that the popular belief is to change the arms because the bushes are such a pain to get out. With this tool it looks fairly easy. As Tombie has said the press has other uses. I intend to get a D4 next so even a few changes it has paid for itself. I am happy to help others out when I get it for a few beers as well.

[Plane Fixer]

I now have in my hand the tools for removing and fitting the front arm bushes.
Anybody who wish to use them are welcome for the usual payment.

[carlschmid2002]

I have just ordered the Laser bush tools for front and rear bushes on the front arms. I also have the bushes coming as well.
I will be fitting them to both the front arms I changed several months ago.

is this the same tool? Do you have a photo of your tool? (That could be interpreted badly)I am keen to see what else is out there before ordering.

[Ean Austral]

is this the same tool? Do you have a photo of your tool? (That could be interpreted badly)I am keen to see what else is out there before ordering.

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:


Cheers Ean

[Plane Fixer]

Carl,
I have an aircraft to fix in Cairns so will get back to you with a pic later this week.
They are Laser Tools 6180 and 6355 and are substantial and excellent quality, certainly on par with Kelstrom tooling, better still made in Sheffield UK. I believe they make the OE tools for LR.
Cheers, Graeme

[Tombie]

is this the same tool? Do you have a photo of your tool? (That could be interpreted badly)I am keen to see what else is out there before ordering.



Totally different Carl, screw based, not frame and jig...
No hydraulic components so required more work on the removal...

Notably cheaper to purchase.

Would require more effort than the SP tool

[carlschmid2002]

Carl,
I have an aircraft to fix in Cairns so will get back to you with a pic later this week.
They are Laser Tools 6180 and 6355 and are substantial and excellent quality, certainly on par with Kelstrom tooling, better still made in Sheffield UK. I believe they make the OE tools for LR.
Cheers, Graeme
No need for a photo, I found them on Google. This is the same bit of kit in the workshop manual.

[PeterJ]

So, it would seem from reading this and other threads that the occurrence of front bushes failing starts from 60K upward and presents as a loud knocking noise from the front suspension. It is an expensive fix if you get a dealer to do it (like mostly everything else on Discovery) and replacement on vehicle is possible with the pullers and mandrels covered earlier in this thread, thanks all.
Is there any comment on failure as a function of suspension settings, does a lot of use of access or off road height accelerate bush failure? Other than visual inspection is there any other early warning signs of bush failure?
Thanks

[Tombie]

Lowering when static places extra stress.
Using it offroad on high speed corrugations accelerates it.

$1200 is hardly expensive for R&R with all new bushes, ball joints, bolts and labour.

[PerthDisco]

So, it would seem from reading this and other threads that the occurrence of front bushes failing starts from 60K upward and presents as a loud knocking noise from the front suspension. It is an expensive fix if you get a dealer to do it (like mostly everything else on Discovery) and replacement on vehicle is possible with the pullers and mandrels covered earlier in this thread, thanks all.

Is there any comment on failure as a function of suspension settings, does a lot of use of access or off road height accelerate bush failure? Other than visual inspection is there any other early warning signs of bush failure?

Thanks



With mine they would not do a wheel alignment as the slop in the bush was too much. That's a good test and at that point the tyre wear must accelerate.

[Meccles]

This stockist seems to have very reasonably priced complete arms etc. This is for RRS but they also list Discovery. Anyone know if these are OEM?

Front Lower and Upper Suspension Arms for Range Rover Sport Wishbones | LR Parts (http://www.lrparts.net/range-rover-sport-2009-2013-front-wishbones-upper-and-lower-suspension-arms-including-bushes-and-ball-joints.html)

[carlschmid2002]

Not sure, these ones are.

https://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/partslist'veh=disco_3&sec=spst&sub_sec=arms

My limited research would suggest that unless you change with genuine bushes expect to be doing it agin sooner rather than later. Unless you do it all yourself any savings in parts would quickly be made up with the extra labour.

[Meccles]

I've used FamousFour quite a bit for RRC bits, they have been very good.

[Plane Fixer]

I recently ordered new OE, not LR, and the bushes I got were Lemforder the German manufacturer of the LR bushes so was pleased. I used LR Direct.

[carlschmid2002]

I recently ordered new OE, not LR, and the bushes I got were Lemforder the German manufacturer of the LR bushes so was pleased. I used LR Direct.

I got Lemforder from Famous Fours.

[carlschmid2002]

I now have in my hand the tools for removing and fitting the front arm bushes.
Anybody who wish to use them are welcome for the usual payment.

After checking out your tool,:D I think that may be the way to go for me. I do need to use it but Coffs is a bit far. If you are ever in Brisbane let me know. My shout.