Wheel Bearings

[Dop]

G/Day, hoping someone can help, I have a 1989 FFR Perentie. I am trying to purchase a set of rear wheel bearings and eventually front bearings too. I am a little confused as to what is available, the parts sites I have visited show anything up to 5 different purchase offers. Also I would like to redo the Hub gaskets at the same time. So to cut the point of my post, my question is do/can I buy Land Rover original or are the after market makes better? If so, not quiet sure what package I should be ordering? Are the Perentie wheel bearings different or are these an original Land Rover part? Any help would be great. As an additional question can you buy "new" bolts for the hubs, as I am missing one, may as well replace the lot.
Thanks Grant

[Vern]

Are the bearings stuffed? Very rare if they are

[Blknight.aus]

they are the same as deefer disco1 county and rangie bearings and flange bolts.

Id get them from roverlord offroad spares (forum sponsor) or mr automotive in redcliff

[Dop]

Are the bearings stuffed? Very rare if they are


No mate they are not stuffed at all, I have a bolt missing on the off side rear hub and am planning to replace the all the fluids (transfer, diff & engine) in a week or two. Just thought it might be a good time to do the lot. I guess I am probably "fixing what is not broke". I thought why not do it all? The hub with the bolt missing is the only one with oil or grease around the hub gasket, so the others may be best left alone? I was thinking though if the off side rear did need replacing I should do the opposite side as well.

[Ashleylipus]

Take a look at ebay item number 322058784641 from landibitz. Roverparts au has a similar kit for slightly cheaper but there is some difference in the terminology so best to cross check with roverparts.
I believe perenties have a spacer that standard deefers dont have but im not an expert. And I'd say you wouldn't need to change it unless there was some serious damage in there.

[Dop]

Thanks Ashleylipus, that looks like what I am after. I checked with roverlord but had trouble finding what I want. Only need to find the bolts for the hub now. Maybe a wreckers.

[Ashleylipus]

Just get your bolts from an industrial supply shop. If you have an old bolt, take it in and they will match it with something in the same diameter and thread pitch and tensile rating

[Blknight.aus]

Take a look at ebay item number 322058784641 from landibitz. Roverparts au has a similar kit for slightly cheaper but there is some difference in the terminology so best to cross check with roverparts.
I believe perenties have a spacer that standard deefers dont have but im not an expert. And I'd say you wouldn't need to change it unless there was some serious damage in there.

incorrect

the td5s started that spacer between the bearings and one big nut done up tight and staked stuff and ford carried it on.

the perenties run 2 52mm thin nuts with a lock tab between them that folds over.

you can re use the lock tabs once or twice and they are different front to rear.

they get done up essentially like a trailer wheel bearing, get the bearings in get the inner nut done up really tight as you keep turning the wheel to seat the bearings and they start to drag, back the nut of then tighten it up till it just touches, install the lock tab do the outer nut up to 50nm and fold the lock tab over.

[JDNSW]

If you need to replace bearings (unlikely), the easiest and quickest replacement is probably to take the old bearings to your local bearing shop and get them matched. They can probably also advise on bearing quality.

The missing bolt and leaking flange is likely to indicate that the wheel bearing behind this flange has excess free play, possibly because it is worn or failing, but more likely because it was incorrectly adjusted the last time the hub was off to replace the seal. (and if removing the bearings you need a new seal)

John

[solidrock]

If it's of any assistance the Perentie 4x4 parts manual lists LM603049 or LM60301 tapered roller bearings for both front and rear wheel hubs, you can find them for about $15ea online from various manufacturers, although from what I know Timken seems to be the brand of choice.

The Landrover part number is RTC3429

EDIT: RTC3429 has apparently been superseded by STC4382, however they both still map to the LM bearing numbers above

[weeds]

You will need a hub nut spanner

Re: gasket between drive flange and hub, I always used a bit of gasket eliminator/goop as well. You can make a gasket out of a Manila Folder.

Order we seals........

Pull one of your other drive flange bolts out and try it in the hole that is missing a bolt.....just to check the thread isn't stripped.

I would only buy quality named bearings......your bearing joint in tamworth will be blue to get them in...as other have said I doubt they will be worn out.

[Dop]

Thank you to everyone, I love this forum almost as much as my Landy! I may sound like I shouldn't leave home, but I like to check. Thanks again, Grant

[Blknight.aus]

we all started somewhere mate.

if you dont ask questions you dont learn.

[cummo]

Hey Grant,

Wheel bearings - Timken anyway - are Timken Set 37. I just bought a set for the front hubs on my Perentie. Any decent bearing place should either carry them or be able to order them in.
Landybitz offer a replacement wheel bearing kit per side c/w Timken bearings, Corteco hub seals, thrust and locking washer, nuts and drive flange gasket which seems fairly good value to me. (No affiliation BTW).
Drive flange bolts are M10 x 50 lg Grade 8.8. It's worth checking them all; I recently adjusted the existing front wheel bearings for play and every bolt was stretched from over tightening. Any good engineering supplies stockist or fastener specialist will carry the bolts.

Good luck, Dave