D4 Pro's & Cons

[Babs]

What I love about my new D4 and what I hate.

Feel free to join in :)

Pros
• it's smooth it's quiet
• I can't hear the wipers when they're on (ex Defender driver) ha ha ha
• the leather BDSM :p
• the power
• the comfort
• the shape
• the air bags

More to come, I'm still getting used to it.

Cons
• spare wheel access
• 19" wheels (poor tyre choices available)
• tow hitch
• fuel tank capacity

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

Oh and the recirculate air button pee's me right off, it never comes back on when starting vehicle. :( :( :(

Holding the button down while on latches it on but that's not good enough :(

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[rhinosm]

Having bought my first LR earlier this year I would agree with all your comments.
The timed recirculate button is stupid.
Fuel tank capacity is frustrating. Not getting the try 80 odd litres is annoying, but if it was around 100 - 120 true litres would be much better.
Lots to like thou.

[BobD]

Why would you ever want recirculated stale air? Every time I get in a car with the air con on recirculate I turn it off! That's one of the great things about the D4. It cools in the hottest conditions using fresh air and dust is not a problem.

[Babs]

Why would you ever want recirculated stale air? Every time I get in a car with the air con on recirculate I turn it off! That's one of the great things about the D4. It cools in the hottest conditions using fresh air and dust is not a problem.

For fresh air I just open the window a little every hour or so.

Have never all these years with my new cars ever run fresh cycle, dust still gets past the filters, your air vents then fill with dust.

Then there is odours, heaps of fertilising around my area and there is some factories or maybe it's a tip that has an excruciating smell coming from it when you drive on the M7, if that gets in the fresh it seems like it never leaves your air con system :(

I hate when I get in a rental or loan vehicle and you turn on the vehicle and the air has been left on full or you turn it on yourself and you get a face full of dust.

Out of curiosity how often do people change the filter for the fresh air inlet ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[letherm]

Out of curiosity how often do people change the filter for the fresh air inlet ❓



It's changed as part of a service - annually I think. Called a pollen filter from memory.

Martin

[Ozzy119]

My 2010 model D4 2.7 does exactly what the advertising material on the box promised. It can be luxury one day and packed full on kit, in the mud, at the weekend.

The load carrying capacity / variations, especially in combination with a roof rack, is extraordinary. Countless times i've seen the surprise on warehouse staff faces as the household item purchased fits in without fuse. I've often thought they get some amusement from people struggling to self load the furniture.

I've also enjoyed the numerous conversations and demonstrations with curious onlookers when they look at it through land cruiser / patrol glasses. They seem genuinely shocked and at times perhaps a little bit annoyed. I do try not to be too smug about it and let the stats / data talk of themselves.

I don't have any cons, because so far this car hasn't let me down. The mods I have and the maintenance done are part of the journey we've all enjoyed with it.

[Graeme]

The only time I use recirculate is if about to pass through a dust or smoke plume across the road. Once or twice I've forgotten to turn it off so the auto-off did the job. I always have the fan running as fast as I can tolerate the noise on unsealed roads to ensure positive cabin pressure.

[Kandy]

Only 2 cons I could think of, prefer the old style of spare on the back of full opening rear gate. The split gate makes it difficult to reach in all the way. Have practised dropping the spare a few times and now carry a small block of wood to support it when on the deck so I can put my hand under to unhook or rehook the cable. The other is Im not game to park it down the shops as it looks so good some ahole will scratch it!
Not going off road (towing a caravan) so the small tank means less weight and the hitch/receiver can be completely removed when not in use. The manual actually recommends to do that.
Where is the air/pollen filter?

[~Rich~]

The pollen filter is behind the lower glovebox.

[Tombie]

Oh and the recirculate air button pee's me right off, it never comes back on when starting vehicle. :( :( :(

Holding the button down while on latches it on but that's not good enough :(

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner



Not supposed to... recirc has proven to be a fatigue cause..

The intake is filtered, and there is a Charcoal filter avail (I think std fitment now) so no dust etc...

[Tombie]

Never, ever had dust get past the pollen filter in the D4...

[scomac]

After living with the D4 and 19"s for the last 3 years I now do not consider the 19 inch tyre size to be a "con". I have had it off road in soft sand, mud and ruts and harsh rocky corrugated roads. Sure you have to adjust the way you drive it but you have to do that with the TR system anyway. And now I have the Maxxis AT 980 tyres on I don't think there is much difference between the 18's and 19's. You just need to be "aware".
Anyway my two cents.
Cheers
Scott.

[Tombie]

Scott. Spot on..
People also tend to push D4s harder - the feed back from a D2 or Defender for instance on rough tracks tends to keep people 'sensible'.
The D4 handles such terrain so much more comfortably that you can get over zealous and actually feel quite safe and comfortable whilst giving tyres and suspension a hiding...

[Ean Austral]

Scott. Spot on..
People also tend to push D4s harder - the feed back from a D2 or Defender for instance on rough tracks tends to keep people 'sensible'.
The D4 handles such terrain so much more comfortably that you can get over zealous and actually feel quite safe and comfortable whilst giving tyres and suspension a hiding...


This is so very true. In the kimberleys last year had a few people comment how bad and roughly corrugated the tracks were and was thinking to myself how it didn't seem bad at all. Watching a car coming the other way and seeing its suspension hammering , then looking at our speed and comfort and was so glad I was in the D3.


If the D4 is any better than the D3 then it must be impressive.


Cheers Ean

[Tombie]

It's one of the reasons for the Hydro Bushes.
And why I'm happy to replace with Lemforder bushes each time..

[Milton477]

After living with the D4 and 19"s for the last 3 years I now do not consider the 19 inch tyre size to be a "con". I have had it off road in soft sand, mud and ruts and harsh rocky corrugated roads. Sure you have to adjust the way you drive it but you have to do that with the TR system anyway. And now I have the Maxxis AT 980 tyres on I don't think there is much difference between the 18's and 19's. You just need to be "aware".
Anyway my two cents.
Cheers
Scott.

I recon you have hit the nail on the head. Leave 'hurry' at home, slow down a bit & 19's are fine for 99% of the time. The choice of tyre seems to be improving too. When towing on tar, the lack of sidewall is a huge advantage as the back wheels don't squirm around as much. Maybe someone will produce a slightly higher profile tyre soon?
Thanks for the feedback.

[BobD]

For the record, I've driven the Great Central road three times, Coober Pedy to Birdsville twice, Savannah Way, Cape York , Binns Track, Plenty Hwy and gravel roads north to Underra, heaps on the Pilbara and Kimberley gravel "roads", South west gravel roads, Kakadu and many others and never had any dust, smells or anything else in the car. No face full of dust ever, except if opening the windows and dust comes through the windows!


I've never once used recirculate (it may not even work for all I know) and have my air con on auto at between 22 and 24 at ALL times when in the D4, day or night, city or country. I change my pollen filter every service. If you use the D4 as its designed the HVAC system is perfect.


If I have one gripe with it, it is that it takes more notice of the outside air temp than the inside temp. It can be quite hot inside due to the sun but the auto system thinks it should be heating if it is cold outside. Easy enough to fix by turning the temp down a couple of degrees for while.

[Stuart02]

The auto height lowering over 40 kph :/

[scarry]

What I love about my new D4 and what I hate.

Feel free to join in :)

Pros
• it's smooth it's quiet
• I can't hear the wipers when they're on (ex Defender driver) ha ha ha
• the leather BDSM :p
• the power
• the comfort
• the shape
• the air bags

More to come, I'm still getting used to it.

Cons
• spare wheel access
• 19" wheels (poor tyre choices available)
• tow hitch
• fuel tank capacity

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

After having mine for 4 1/2 yrs,i would add the tailgate to the Pros,very handy and well designed.

Cons i would add the rear wiper coming on whenever reverse is selected while the fronts are on,can be a PITA at times,and also in mine the rear parking sensors cannot be turned off,which is a nuisance at times,particularly in long grass.

The tow hitch is an easy fix(mitch hitch,etc),and as others have said,tyre choices are way better than they were a few years ago.Spare wheel access is also easy fix with a minor mod so the winch can be operated if the rear seats are down.

The only real biggy is the fuel tank size,although fixes are available.
In fact the D4 probably has the smallest fuel tank of any vehicle in its class,which is disappointing.

But overall a damm good vehicle,pleasure to own.

[Graeme]

The auto height lowering over 40 kph :/

There are work-arounds for that!

[Grentarc]

Cons i would add the rear wiper coming on whenever reverse is selected while the fronts are on,can be a PITA at times.
I like this feature, and quite used to it as every car I have had with a rear wiper does this.

[sheerluck]

There are work-arounds for that!

Like you'd know!:D

[Graeme]

I like this feature, and quite used to it as every car I have had with a rear wiper does this.The difference between clean rear windows and dirty ones - I've pulled the fuse from the RR's rear wiper.

[dwaters]

After living with the D4 and 19"s for the last 3 years I now do not consider the 19 inch tyre size to be a "con". I have had it off road in soft sand, mud and ruts and harsh rocky corrugated roads. Sure you have to adjust the way you drive it but you have to do that with the TR system anyway. And now I have the Maxxis AT 980 tyres on I don't think there is much difference between the 18's and 19's. You just need to be "aware".
Anyway my two cents.
Cheers
Scott.





Hi Scott, I just bought myself a 2016 Graphite TDV6 and after owning a D3 with 18 inch wheels I am unsure as to how the 19's will go in the sand as I spend most my time on the beach south of Mandurah in WA.
I am pleased to hear you are happy with the 19's.
What pressure do you drop the tyres down to in the sand Scott?
Thanks

[Stuart02]

There are work-arounds for that!

And good ones at that ;)

For such an overall great standard vehicle it's still a big PITA

[scomac]

Hi dwaters
Depends on the sand but a good start is around 20psi. If I don't know the beach I start from here and air down further as needed. Have been as low as 12psi, obviously care is needed.
Cheers
Scott

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[Tombie]

And good ones at that ;)

For such an overall great standard vehicle it's still a big PITA



But it goes to show that LR actually build vehicles that will pass the swerve tests..

Most others won't pass our swerve ADR in stock form

[Kandy]

Oh, and the fuel tank will not take the high flow diesel nozzle.
Good thread, shows you'll never please everybody.

[scarry]

I like this feature, and quite used to it as every car I have had with a rear wiper does this.

Every other vehicle i have had,apart from LR's, has never had this feature,and i don't miss it at all.

Where it is a PITA is when the rear window is covered in mud,the vehicle is loaded,so you can't see out the rear window anyway,let alone have the wiper come on and scrape itself over the mud.
Even if the fronts are in intermittent and there is hardly any rain it still comes on.

Anyway,as others have said,good thread,sometimes we will agree to disagree:D:D

[apom]

Yep, good threads. I do love my D4!

Got most of them babs....

Things i dont like....

Most of the gripes... small ones are from do-gooders at Landrover thinking they know better and treating owners like idiots.

Latched air is a perfect example... just let people choose to leave it on or not
Fuel tank capacity would be much better if again, if they didn't treat you like and idiot and tell you its empty when there is still 10-15 litres in the tank
The liar-meter that is the fuel consumption.. whats the point in having it if its BS
Towbar is stupid... how can such a big vehicle give you somewhere to stow the hitch but no where to stow the tongue (really!!)
Such an awesome sound system but will not play lossless audio files from the media player, only MP3 or CD (any audiophiles out there??)
No android support from the USB connection (thats 50% of the market)
Keyless entry will only let the key holder open the door first even if he is in range....(ie if the passenger trys to open the door and the driver hasnt then it wont open)
Radio turns off in accessory mode after 5 mins. (again. treating people like dummies)
The wiring for the electric brakes etc... stupid that it needs to be modded straight out of the factory



Things I love


For the size I cant believe how it drives, smooth, responsive, super comfortable for any trip, on or off road. Craps over anything else that size (other than a RRS)
The sound system... just awesome
The seat system thats totally flat in multiple configs
The look, you can make it a slick city looker or a beefed up explorer
The keyless entry and how it works for the rear door, allows you to walk up put something in the back and relocks without touching anything as soon as its closed.
The space


Most of the dont likes are small ones and some can be fixed... thankfully!

[Grentarc]

Radio turns off in accessory mode after 5 mins.



I see lots of people say this, but mine stays on for somewhere around 45 minutes! The part I don't like is if I have the radio on without the ignition, and I turn it off again, next time I start the car the radio is off. It also stays on if I leave it going when I lock the car.
My other car would turn the radio off (before the radio got blown up) once you locked the car with the fob as it assumed no one would be needing to listen to it.

[Tombie]

I see lots of people say this, but mine stays on for somewhere around 45 minutes! The part I don't like is if I have the radio on without the ignition, and I turn it off again, next time I start the car the radio is off. It also stays on if I leave it going when I lock the car.
My other car would turn the radio off (before the radio got blown up) once you locked the car with the fob as it assumed no one would be needing to listen to it.



Mine goes around 30 min.. but then my vehicle gets a decent charge on highway runs.

[Tombie]

Audiophile + Moving vehicle = Hahahahaha..

Worst sound stage ever!

[jonesfam]

I have a D3, not a D4 so I probably should stay out of this because the D3 is a better car anyway (because I own 1 http://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)

Pains:
Spare tyre set up from go to woe.
Having to replace lower control arms.
Having a timing belt.
No room when using all 7 seats.

Good Stuff:
Not girly like a D4.
All round awesome.
Comfortable.
Puts up with a knock or 2.
You sit up high.
It has huge windows.
All the seats are comfortable.
So good to drive on the dirt.
AND did I mention it's not Girly like a D4?

Jonesfam

PS I covert a D4!

[Kandy]

Im sure that was a D3 I flew past the other day, bit of a blur really, ha ;)

[Meken]

Yep, good threads. I do love my D4!



Got most of them babs....



Things i dont like....



Most of the gripes... small ones are from do-gooders at Landrover thinking they know better and treating owners like idiots.



Latched air is a perfect example... just let people choose to leave it on or not

Fuel tank capacity would be much better if again, if they didn't treat you like and idiot and tell you its empty when there is still 10-15 litres in the tank

The liar-meter that is the fuel consumption.. whats the point in having it if its BS

Towbar is stupid... how can such a big vehicle give you somewhere to stow the hitch but no where to stow the tongue (really!!)

Such an awesome sound system but will not play lossless audio files from the media player, only MP3 or CD (any audiophiles out there??)

No android support from the USB connection (thats 50% of the market)

Keyless entry will only let the key holder open the door first even if he is in range....(ie if the passenger trys to open the door and the driver hasnt then it wont open)

Radio turns off in accessory mode after 5 mins. (again. treating people like dummies)

The wiring for the electric brakes etc... stupid that it needs to be modded straight out of the factory







Things I love





For the size I cant believe how it drives, smooth, responsive, super comfortable for any trip, on or off road. Craps over anything else that size (other than a RRS)

The sound system... just awesome

The seat system thats totally flat in multiple configs

The look, you can make it a slick city looker or a beefed up explorer

The keyless entry and how it works for the rear door, allows you to walk up put something in the back and relocks without touching anything as soon as its closed.

The space





Most of the dont likes are small ones and some can be fixed... thankfully!


Isn't the radio off delay a programmable setting?
Mine opens all doors if I'm in range & someone grabs a passenger door handle - only opens drivers door if I grab drivers handle ( good safety setting in my opinion )

[Tombie]

Isn't the radio off delay a programmable setting?
Mine opens all doors if I'm in range & someone grabs a passenger door handle - only opens drivers door if I grab drivers handle ( good safety setting in my opinion )



I believe configurable from the dash menu

[apom]

Audiophile + Moving vehicle = Hahahahaha..

Worst sound stage ever!

I know I know Tombie...but the Meridian is such an awesome system .... lol.

Just for some news I put it on AM this morning instead...OMG the AM reception is laughable, it sounded like listening to The American Top 40 on in the 70's and 80's on a Sunday evening before FM came along.

Will have a look in the config menu for the locking... The Leader of the Opposition is away at present so there distinctly less whining coming from that side of the vehicle at present!!!

[Kandy]

Windscreen wipers dont fold outwards and stay there when cleaning the windscreen.

[jonesfam]

Windscreen wipers dont fold outwards and stay there when cleaning the windscreen.

Yep!
What's the idea behind that?

[Graeme]

...and can't be parked off the screen for snow.

[l00kin4]

for me, well my family mainly, add to the love list (repeating jonesfam's points a bit)

high seats / low window sills - such a good outlook, even for small people
proper middle seat in the middle row

David

[Chops]

hmmm,,,
Not long now :cool:

[LandyAndy]

How many sleeps????
I saw the nicest colour on a D4 today.Southerns have a dark red,Montiblanco or similar with black pack in the showroom,nice!!!!
Andrew

[Chops]

End of the month :(


We have one of those near home here too ;)
,, Leeanne hates red, so it was no go. The one we looked at and test drove had the good leather too.


Defender = Lots of air,
Disco = Clean air,,,,

[TerryO]

...and can't be parked off the screen for snow.

We carried two empty water bottles with us to put under the wiper blades when recently down in the snow ... Pain in the butt.

Regarding quite wipers on the D4, that only lasts for a while from new, once you change the blades and the screen gets that really light pitting from stones that you only see when driving into the sun they tend to become noisy.

Regarding the pollen filter and smells, buy the more expensive carbon version, no more smells.

Regarding dust, the Disco's filter system is very good, from our experience first with the D3 and then the D4 as the door seals age you are more likely to get dust in around the tail gate than through the filter.

Regarding the stereo turning itself off after a short period of time or down in volume once the engine is stopped, it does it to protect the battery. Painful but given how much these vehicles rely on battery power some what understandable.

Why do they have auto recycle air con turn off? These vehicles are so well sealed ventilation wise that if you drove for hours on recycle you run the risk of losing concentration and falling asleep, especially if there is a few of you in the vehicle.

Regarding blowing the doors off of D3's, try that against a V8 D3 and see what the outcome is ... ;)

[Babs]

Coming back from farm this afternoon and started smelling smoke in the vehicle, there was a scrub fire outside somewhere, I looked down and realised I didn't have the recirculate on, point is there is definitely smells getting through filter :(

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[carlschmid2002]

Im sure that was a D3 I flew past the other day, bit of a blur really, ha ;)

Not my D3 you wouldn't. You may use less fuel but you couldn't keep up.

[TerryO]

Coming back from farm this afternoon and started smelling smoke in the vehicle, there was a scrub fire outside somewhere, I looked down and realised I didn't have the recirculate on, point is there is definitely smells getting through filter :(

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner


Do you have a carbon pollen filter fitted?

[LRD414]

Do you have a carbon pollen filter fitted?
Terry, I believe all newer models have the carbon one as standard.
My research indicated the carbon version was part# JKR500020 (and ordinary #JKR500010)
JKR500020 supercedes to LR023977, which is the standard part# now I believe.

Cheers,
Scott

[Babs]

I'm not sure about the carbon poly filter but it happened again today. Lane Cove Tunnel was down to 40klm/ph so there I was plotting along and I started smelling strong exhaust fumes, I look down again and check the recirculate button and its Blooming off. :(

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Plane Fixer]

At least when you sneak one out and is noticed on the passenger side, you can blame it on the roadkill just passed:wasntme::angel:

[Mog60]

I'm not sure about the carbon poly filter but it happened again today. Lane Cove Tunnel was down to 40klm/ph so there I was plotting along and I started smelling strong exhaust fumes, I look down again and check the recirculate button and its Blooming off. :(

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

In my 2014 HSE, if you keep the recirculation button pressed for several seconds it will lock (a message goes on central info screen where map usually is).:) Edit: I now see others have mentioned this point.

[Babs]

In my 2014 HSE, if you keep the recirculation button pressed for several seconds it will lock (a message goes on central info screen where map usually is).:)

Yes it says recirculate latched on. Meaning it doesn't time out for the duration of your trip.

When you turn the vehicle off it cancels the recirculate so after you restart vehicle it is off again.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

Another gripe I have with my new D4 is the space between the side firewall and the brake :(

If I have my steel caps on I hit the brake as I accelerate, there is not enough space there unless your wearing grandpa slippers.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

But I love the power and just returned 9.1L per/100klm on a drive up to Brissy today. :D



CON = Cruise Control. This cruise is crap, it jumps up 20klm above set speed on a slight decline. Every vehicle I have ever owned has held set speed within 7klm on declines and anything too steep just brakes away.

The D4 won't hold at all. I have come to the conclusion Discovery 4 Cruise is Poo.

Can this be altered at all with the IIDTOOL ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Grentarc]

But I love the power and just returned 9.1L per/100klm on a drive up to Brissy today. :D



CON = Cruise Control. This cruise is crap, it jumps up 20klm above set speed on a slight decline. Every vehicle I have ever owned has held set speed within 7klm on declines and anything too steep just brakes away.

The D4 won't hold at all. I have come to the conclusion Discovery 4 Cruise is Poo.

Can this be altered at all with the IIDTOOL ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner
No, that's the cruise control you are stuck with unfortunately

[Tombie]

Just paddle down a few gears on overrun.

[Graeme]

CON = Cruise Control. This cruise is crap, it jumps up 20klm above set speed on a slight decline....
The D4 won't hold at all. I have come to the conclusion Discovery 4 Cruise is Poo.Have you looked at the instantaneous fuel consumption? Early D4s originally didn't cut fuel on overrun but s/w updates fixed that. If your consumption is zero then it can only be due to the high gearing now used with the 8-speed.

[Kandy]

Not my D3 you wouldn't. You may use less fuel but you couldn't keep up.

Yep, must have been a TD.
If your in Bris do you use MR for servicing? I might but concerned over dealer relations.

[Babs]

Just paddle down a few gears on overrun.

I'll give that a try Tombie but it defeats the purpose of cruise :(

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

Have you looked at the instantaneous fuel consumption? Early D4s originally didn't cut fuel on overrun but s/w updates fixed that. If your consumption is zero then it can only be due to the high gearing now used with the 8-speed.

Thanks Graeme, just one thing with what you have said, I don't understand any of it He he he :)
Sorry but I got a "deer with no eyes" as to what that means :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Grentarc]

Thanks Graeme, just one thing with what you have said, I don't understand any of it He he he :)
Sorry but I got a "deer with no eyes" as to what that means :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner
On the instrument cluster screen, select instantaneous fuel consumption by pressing the "i" button on the LH stalk. When going down a hill, does the fuel readout read 0 L/100 km? If yes, then the tall gearing of the 8 speed box is to blame for lack of engine braking.

[Babs]

On the instrument cluster screen, select instantaneous fuel consumption by pressing the "i" button on the LH stalk. When going down a hill, does the fuel readout read 0 L/100 km? If yes, then the tall gearing of the 8 speed box is to blame for lack of engine braking.

Perfect got it, cheers. Sometimes ya just gotta give it to me like I'm 4years old :D

I'll check that on my return run back to Sydney and let you know :) Thanks.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[carlschmid2002]

Yep, must have been a TD.
If your in Bris do you use MR for servicing? I might but concerned over dealer relations.

I service everything on the D3 myself, but I am about to purchase a D4 V8 and was looking into MR, the only problem being that they are in Redcliffe I believe. Might have to take a day off work to get it out there. The D4 will need a service straight away.

[Garfield]

Have we included under cons the crap LR scissor jack that comes standard ?

[carlschmid2002]

Have we included under cons the crap LR scissor jack that comes standard ?

I did mention it to Babs after he had a whine about lowering his spare tyre. I don't think he has used the "Jack" yet. A more ridiculous device to raise a 3 tonne vehicle would be very hard to find.

[Garfield]

Just ask Tombie how well LR scissor jacks work. Refer thread with photo's http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/222778-new-jack-option-9.html

[Babs]

I did mention it to Babs after he had a whine about lowering his spare tyre. I don't think he has used the "Jack" yet. A more ridiculous device to raise a 3 tonne vehicle would be very hard to find.

Yeah I'm now aware of this and have been reading the "jack" thread and will be purchasing a hydraulic jack soon as I can make heads and tails of all the dimensions that everyone is throwing around in the "Jack" thread :o

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Chops]

Yesss, been reading that, and I think I'll go for the heavier one personally.

[Babs]

I gotta say, this Discovery is so Darn comfortable, getting stuck in traffic jams is not as bad as what it was in the Defender.

I am so so so happy that the LC 200 was a 3 month wait, otherwise I could have been driving that right now.

The Hotel I'm staying at in Brissy has a low clearance carpark, no problem just lower the suspension then flick the Llams to go even lower, problem solved secure off street parking for the night. :) the LC 200 would have had to camp out if that had of been the choice of vehicle.

It's so nice to be in a vehicle and not ponder for more power, more comfort, more capabilities, yeah it's got the few "Cons" that we all agree on but it just feels right driving it. Oh What A Feeling, Land Rover :D

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Chops]

Yep, its a drivers vehicle.
Found myself in the usual carpark on the way home tonight,, soooooo relaxing. Even had energy to do some of the lawn this evening. No aching knee, which is "the norm" after arriving home generally in the Deefer after work.

[Babs]

On the instrument cluster screen, select instantaneous fuel consumption by pressing the "i" button on the LH stalk. When going down a hill, does the fuel readout read 0 L/100 km? If yes, then the tall gearing of the 8 speed box is to blame for lack of engine braking.

I forgot to get back to you regarding this.

The answer is Yes it reads zero when the cruise runs away.

Thanks for that :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[garbage]

I'll have to second Babs on this. The recirculation feature is the worst feature in an otherwise brilliant car. Give us the choice to have it fixed to the setting we want permanently. I do a lot of city driving (Sydney) and can't stand the diesel fumes and particles that come in from other cars. I also find that after having the car off for a while, there's a buildup of the car's own fumes that goes in your face as soon as you start the car. Different story when I'm driving in the country - 95% fresh air for me.

[PerthDisco]

I'll have to second Babs on this. The recirculation feature is the worst feature in an otherwise brilliant car. Give us the choice to have it fixed to the setting we want permanently. I do a lot of city driving (Sydney) and can't stand the diesel fumes and particles that come in from other cars. I also find that after having the car off for a while, there's a buildup of the car's own fumes that goes in your face as soon as you start the car. Different story when I'm driving in the country - 95% fresh air for me.



Upgrade to the carbon cabin air filter or change your old one? Consensus seems to be that neither dust or fumes can get past it even on non-recirc

[SBD4]

....or, should have ticked the box for pollution detection.