Front Sensors / Front Camera

[Bigstu]

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I have finally convinced SWMBO to let me purchase a D4. Will be looking for a low KM 2015 unit which obviously means whatever options the previous owner has speced it up with is what I get.

We currently have a small suv and the above mentioned SWMBO is highly reliant on the front parking sensors (buggered if I know why, if you don't know where the front of the car is I think you have bigger problems however this line of argument is hazardous to the health). She has decreed that the new car must have these also.

I plan on fitting either an OL or ARB bullbar. Does anyone know if it is possible / practical to retrofit front sensors 1) to a D4 that didn't come with them from the factory and 2) if they can be fitted into a bullbar? I had thought that some sort of front facing camera may be easier?

Appreciate any help/ thoughts!

[jonesy63]

Welcome bigStu!

I'm pretty sure all the OL bars have holes for front cameras and parking sensors. I know the one on my MY11 does and I have front sensors - but it is a different design to the MY14+ ones.

Maybe ring OL and ask?
Cheers,
Rob

[sheerluck]

Yes, it is very possible to retrofit the front sensors to a vehicle that didn't originally come with them, the loom and parts is not that expensive at all. The vehicle's CCF will need editing to activate them, which you can do yourself with an IIDTool, or similar.

[Bigstu]

Thanks very much, good to know. I'll add that to the laundry list of plans I have made after scrolling through AULRO for too long!

[Lukeis]

dave, does that apply for a 2011 too?

would they just activate on the same loop as the rear sensors?

on a side note- do they make a different chime to the rear ones?

maybe my next job...

[sheerluck]

dave, does that apply for a 2011 too?

would they just activate on the same loop as the rear sensors?

on a side note- do they make a different chime to the rear ones?

maybe my next job...

Exactly the same Luke!

They use the same circuit as the rear sensors, you'll just need the extra loom to connect them to the connector below the right hand headlamp.

The parts list you'd need
4 sensors (Valeo OEM sensors are dirt cheap)
2 centre retainers
2 RH/LH retainers
1 loom
4 rubber grommets
(If you want the part numbers, just shout as I've got them listed somewhere)

Same chime though. But you should know whether you're going forwards or backwards. ;)

[Lukeis]

Thanks Dave, sounds very achievable.. How much is dirt cheap?

No rush but when you're free can you send me the part numbers? Just as I started to think I was nearing the end of my upgrades!!

[kenl]

Is it really the same chime?

I have both front and rear sensors factory fitted, the chime may be the same but I think they are from different speakers, one front one rear?

Have to check in the morning.

[letherm]

on a side note- do they make a different chime to the rear ones?


My HSE MY13 has different sounds for front and rear sensors. The front is high pitched and the rear is more low pitched. It's not a huge difference but you can hear it if you pay attention.

Martin

[sheerluck]

I'm going to have listen hard now. I've always thought it was the same tone. :D

[sheerluck]

Thanks Dave, sounds very achievable.. How much is dirt cheap?

No rush but when you're free can you send me the part numbers? Just as I started to think I was nearing the end of my upgrades!!

I'll post the list here....
Sensors x 4 LR038084 (though the OEM 9G92-15K859-DA is readily available, as it's used in about 20 different vehicles, I paid $70 delivered for 4)
4 rubber grommets LR011193 or LR015497 depending if you want black or transparent.
2 centre retainers LR015238
2 LH/RH retainers LR015239

These items are the same for any year D4.

For the loom, if you have two connectors under the RH headlamp (one of which will be in use by the fog lamps loom), you can get away with adding loom LR015493 (or you may find it as LR021049).
This definitely is right for the pre update D4, for the post update D4, I haven't seen what the connectors under the headlamp look like yet, and there's about 16 variants of that front loom.
If someone wants to PM me a VIN for a MY14 or newer D4, I can try and work out which one is best.

[Bigstu]

i assume the button on the dash would need to be added also. How hard is it pull the dash apart on these things?

[BMKal]

But you should know whether you're going forwards or backwards. ;)

Judging by the markings on SWMBO's Camry, I think she struggles with this concept sometimes. :wasntme:

[kenl]

Bigstu,

The center dash is not as hard as you may think, I've done it a few times messing around with the touch screen. as always a few clips get lost and nerves are stressed pulling hard on plastic parts, but all in all it's pretty easy, at least on my 2011..

[Lukeis]

In case anyone is looking to do this, I ordered the parts today at the following cost:

Sensors x 4 LR038084 = $50 delivered (eBay)
4 rubber grommets LR011193 = $28 (LR parts)
Wiring loom LR021049 - $58 (Lr parts)

I wasnt initially going to do this upgrade except I got a facelift bumper and it had the holes there so I figured why not!

wait for delivery, install the bumper then off to the shop to update the CCF.

Does anyone know what to look under for this setting?

[l00kin4]

I'll post the list here....

This definitely is right for the pre update D4, for the post update D4, I haven't seen what the connectors under the headlamp look like yet, and there's about 16 variants of that front loom.
If someone wants to PM me a VIN for a MY14 or newer D4, I can try and work out which one is best.

Thanks for this. PM on its way
David

[Bigstu]

Finally got the car. Its a 2016 16.5. I'm going to get an ARB summit bar fitted wondering if it would be best to buy the loom and parts and get ARB to fit them all at the same time?

[Lukeis]

Having installed these only a week ago you 100% will want to install them at the same Time as the bullbar. While mine was only going into a bumper so the room available might be different the bumper definitely had to be completely off to do the wiring etc

Ps. Now having had them for a week I would have to say they are pretty useless in real life, but as you said that's not an arguement worth having!

Good Luck!!

[Bigstu]

So I ordered all of the parts required, sent my vin number to Duckworth LR to make sure it would all be ok. When I pulled out my drivers side headlamp to find the loom, there is only one plug there even close to the same size as the sensor loom and the fog lamp is connected to it. The fog lamp is using only two wires as you would expect but there is no way the sensor loom would plug into that connector anyway. Have I been sent the wrong loom or is this going to be the nightmare I think it is??

[Lukeis]

If you are referring to the parking sensors loom keep looking, from memory there is an additional loom which sounds like the one you are referring too!

I think I had to take the headlight and grill out to find it.

[Mungus]

So I ordered all of the parts required, sent my vin number to Duckworth LR to make sure it would all be ok. When I pulled out my drivers side headlamp to find the loom, there is only one plug there even close to the same size as the sensor loom and the fog lamp is connected to it. The fog lamp is using only two wires as you would expect but there is no way the sensor loom would plug into that connector anyway. Have I been sent the wrong loom or is this going to be the nightmare I think it is??

BigStu,
Check out this thread, starting at around post 425 and in particular post 449.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/125759-d4-landrover-bull-bar-latest-news-45.html
I'll post up a pic tonight. Sensor loom connector is grey, square and located under the drivers headlight. Any other questions send us a PM as I've just done this job myself. ARB Summit bar to MY14HSE with Cameras and sensors.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/12/531.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/12/532.jpg

and behind bumper

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/12/533.jpg

[Bigstu]

Hi guys,

Still no joy with this, i can't see a plug anywhere that i can connect the sensor loom to. The closest is the plug that appears to go to the foglights but it uses larger pins. I'm wondering in JLR decided to remove the part of the loom if sensors were not ordered from the factory - seems stupid to me if they did.

Has anyone got any clues??

Mungus, i've looked at your post you suggested but can't see anything there.