Territory v6 Diesel engine/Gear Box

[DBC911]

Hello! From a new Boy on the Block
I would like to know from " The Brains Trust" and from what I can see are very knowledgable members and subscribers - and am astounded by the wealth and knowledge a lot of you contribute - Great Work...!!!
Would dearly appreciate your expert views on the following
I have noticed recently that they are a few D3 for sale either with very high mileage or faulty gearbox's
I know a few articles exist re fitting the Territory Engines to the D3
Some successfully after a few teething problems
But no definitive engine numbers/ series that will fit were mentioned ( I remain to be corrected)
And cannot find anything re Territory Gearbox's that will fit
I ask as I have been looking for a Discovery 2a but see some bargains for D3 vehicles and am all ways after a bargain (famous last words)
Is it feasible to fit the above and in your view would it be cost effective I know it depends on the selling price
I was thinking of used parts to save money as I would have to take out a Mortgage - or rob a Bank for original parts and labour charges
Your expert views would be greatly appreciated
Thanking You Ladies and Gentlemen

[Narangga]

In simple terms, 2005 & 2006 D3 = EU3 emission standards. 2007 - 2009 D3 = EU4 emission standards which are the same as the Ford Territory.

Therefore a Territory engine into an '07 onward D3 is the easiest/cheapest to perform. Due to having to swap all the engine ancillaries it is not really cost/time effective to put a Territory engine into an 05 or 06 D3.

I am not aware of swaps of transmissions but the regularly quoted figure to allow for a replacement transmission is up to $7,000. The most recent reference to a price I have seen is here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/238952-nizpro-high-volume-zf-sump-pan.html#post2565724

[sheerluck]

The 6R80 transmission from a Territory is a fair way from a drop in replacement for the 6HP26. Even though it is in theory a 6HP26 built under license by Ford, it has enough differences to make it tricky.

[Ean Austral]

Gday and welcome to the forum .


My understanding is there were several Fords built with the 6HP26, think the XR6 was one of them.


A search of a Ford wrecker may see you come up with a cheaper replacement , but I am unsure if they are a straight bolt in or if they need adapting.


The biggest issue seems to stem from the gearbox oil not being changed due to the thought they were sealed for life. People are now realising that the oil needs to be changed at approx. 50 - 70,000 km intervals.


Cheers Ean

[sheerluck]

The 6HP26 used in the Falcons and Territory was a different variant Ean. A RWD only box, with a different bellhousing for the straight 6 engine.

[DBC911]

Hi!
To all of you who have posted replay's a very BIG thank You...!!!
From what I have absorbed its not worth the hassel to fit the Territory Engine and Gearbox to the D3 series even though they are basically the same engine but with serious differences
So I am just going to find a nice 2a 2003 -2004 Disco and sure I will be very happy
Got the Landrover "bug" a long while ago and cannot wait until I get my first Landy TD5 Automatic ( to old at 70 to mess around with a manual)
As I live on the beautiful Sunshine Coast I think I will be pointing it first thing North towards Fraser Island and trying avoiding as much Salt Water as possible
Many Thanks to all for your valuable Input
Very Much Appreciated

[Ean Austral]

The 6HP26 used in the Falcons and Territory was a different variant Ean. A RWD only box, with a different bellhousing for the straight 6 engine.

That makes sense. Oh well learn something new every day.

Cheers Ean

[LandyAndy]

The 6HP26 used in the Falcons and Territory was a different variant Ean. A RWD only box, with a different bellhousing for the straight 6 engine.

What does the turbo straight 6 AWD Territory have????
Andrew

[sheerluck]

What does the turbo straight 6 AWD Territory have????
Andrew

I believe it's a variant of the RWD 6HP26. The transmission as used in D3/D4/RRS/FFRR and a couple of Beemers with an external transfer box was officially designated 6HP26X.

**EDIT** the first bit is wrong. The SY Territory Turbo does have the 6HP26X, the standard AWD does not

[jonesy63]

Hmm... I thought the 6HP26X was only installed on the V8 D3?

[sheerluck]

Hmm... I thought the 6HP26X was only installed on the V8 D3?

Nope. Definitely all of them.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=112505&stc=1&d=1470832918

[jonesy63]

That's right... I think it was the 6HP28X in the V8 D3/D4.

[sheerluck]

That's right... I think it was the 6HP28X in the V8 D3/D4.

The 4.4V8 D3 used the 6HP26X still
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=112512&stc=1&d=1470889591

But the 5.0 V8 D4 definitely did use the 6HP28X.

[Grentarc]

The 6HP26 used in the Falcons and Territory was a different variant Ean. A RWD only box, with a different bellhousing for the straight 6 engine.

What about the AWD Turbo Territory box?

[Grentarc]

That's right... I think it was the 6HP28X in the V8 D3/D4.

The 6 speed 3.0 TDV6 has the 6HP28

[sheerluck]

I believe it's a variant of the RWD 6HP26. The transmission as used in D3/D4/RRS/FFRR and a couple of Beemers with an external transfer box was officially designated 6HP26X.

**EDIT** the first bit is wrong. The SY Territory Turbo does have the 6HP26X, the standard AWD does not


What about the AWD Turbo Territory box?

That one Justin? :D

[Grentarc]

I am actually kind of interested in this Territory discussion as the wife is wanting one.

[sheerluck]

I am actually kind of interested in this Territory discussion as the wife is wanting one.

SZ TDCI AWD Titanium would be my pick. You could even share a few parts and oil. :D

[jonesy63]

My brother had a RWD TDCi Titanium a couple of years ago. I drove it to Lakes Entrance and back. Without the lard of the D3/D4, they go really well. Economy was great too (6.8L/100km for that trip, not driving for economy!).

[Ean Austral]

Except for the X , what is the difference between the 6HP26 and the 6HP26X ??




Cheers Ean

[sheerluck]

My brother had a RWD TDCi Titanium a couple of years ago. I drove it to Lakes Entrance and back. Without the lard of the D3/D4, they go really well. Economy was great too (6.8L/100km for that trip, not driving for economy!).

That lack of "lard" does show in the quality and thickness of materials and metal compared to the D3/D4. In terms of chassis and body strength, the D3/D4 is waaaaaay ahead of the Territory. The seats feel a bit thin, the fixtures and fittings a bit plasticky.

But, you are buying something that costs half to two thirds of the D3/D4, so I think it's reasonable value!

[jonesy63]

The "X" suffix are for 4WD/AWD vehicles.

[carlschmid2002]

What does the turbo straight 6 AWD Territory have????
Andrew

If it is a 6 Speed it is a ZF. Early turbo Falcons only had the Borg Warner 4 speed.