Disc Rotors & Pads Front & Rear

[Fluids]

I'm at 187k and looking to replace rotors and pads, front and rear. Still got (afaik) the original rotors. Replaced the pads front and rear at 120k

Most of our future km's will be towing the Kimberley Kamper, so a partially modified D2a with drawers, gear, etc,etc and up to 1.6T on tow ... Mainly touring duty and occasional off-road play duty, so around a 4T give or take all up weight.

Seems DBA rotors & Bendix pads are a common upgrade ... I'd like some better braking ability than I've currently got ... especially for long downhill windy stuff where the current pads & rotors seem to fade pretty bad ... but, that's original rotors and pads with nearly 70k on them. Gentler touring speeds, not grand prix speeds :D

The intention is to replace all caliper seals and rubbers and probably flexible brake lines at the same time.

What say you all ... DBA T3 rotors with Bendix Heavy Duty pads for the front and DBA T2 rotors with Heavy Duty pads (or maybe Bendix 4WD pads) for the rear (only about $10 difference) ??

A quick scratch around the nett looks like I'm up for around $400 for the T3's and $280 for the T2's, and maybe $100 front/$100 rear for the Bendix Heavy Duty pads ... add seals, rubbers and hoses, and I'm up for about $1k ... labour maybe by me / not included in that price.

Any better options and maybe better places to get pricing ??

TIA !

[whyatts]

With regards to the brake pads, I would recommend genuine over bendix - Shane

[DiscoKym]

I fitted the T2 to the front of mine. Pads were near new so refitted after a clean up.

Very happy with them and seem more consistant.

Now looking at replacing the rears with BDA's.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

There is a different way to look at it,,
same discs same pads = same brakes.
steel is steel, a different pad (softer) will only make so much difference,
at the end of the day increased hydraulic pressure is the only sure way to stop better.



One of the more famous trailer brake component manufacturers say to adjust your electric trailer brakes to just off lockup on dirt,,

If, Fluids, you have your trailer brakes wound up that tight,,(as we all should--) and still have brake fade, I would adjust your downhill driving speed!!:p;):D

and you have, gasp! a manual!:o:wasntme:

[thai_tiger]

any thoughts for the slotted and drilled options

[rangieman]

There is a different way to look at it,,
same discs same pads = same brakes.
steel is steel, a different pad (softer) will only make so much difference,
at the end of the day increased hydraulic pressure is the only sure way to stop better.



One of the more famous trailer brake component manufacturers say to adjust your electric trailer brakes to just off lockup on dirt,,

If, Fluids, you have your trailer brakes wound up that tight,,(as we all should--) and still have brake fade, I would adjust your downhill driving speed!!:p;):D

and you have, gasp! a manual!:o:wasntme:

Sorry i`ll differ with you on steel is steel :cool:
One company (Australian)i personaly know of not sure with the other companys but Delios use more carbon in their rotor`s to reduce shudder and warping and they slot them in house on a CNC Mill in melbourne;)

Also the majority of rotor`s are all made in china for all company`s large and small company`s either European ,US or what ever.
I know the MD of Delios travels to Asia and over see`s the Manufacturing to their requirement`s
And drilled rotor`s are not favourable for road use due to cracking from drilling , Dimpled and slotted are ok .
I run Delios slotted rotors front and back and they are a growing company in Aus with a great reputation :D
Delios also supply marks 4wd for all their engineed GVM Upgrades and Portal conversion`s.
And no im not affiliated with Delios i just dont get the hype for the big names because they are big names;)
Delios | Brake rotors, performance braking, 4WD brakes (http://www.deliosbrakes.com/)

And Marks4wd site
Delios (http://www.marks4wd.com/delios.html)

[kelvo]

I replaced my front rotors with DBA T2 and Repco Thermo Quiet pads, along with a pair of brand new Land Rover calipers & carriers. I still have the LR pads that came with the new calipers so might give them ago when I need new front pads.

Braking performance was massively improved. I'll be fitting the Repco TQ pads to the rear when they are required, along with DBA T2 rotors when required.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Interesting about the carbon,,:cool:
drilled rotors have sucked/cracked/exploded since inception,,

more pistons is the usual industry way of better braking.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Hey Fluids!:o
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/625.jpg

[Fluids]

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There is a different way to look at it,,
same discs same pads = same brakes.
steel is steel, a different pad (softer) will only make so much difference,
at the end of the day increased hydraulic pressure is the only sure way to stop better.

Well yes & no ... More hydraulic pressure will create MORE friction, more stopping force, yes, and hence more heat ... more heat without being able to dissapte it leads to brake fade ... composition of the pads and the rotor steel has to play a pretty important part

One of the more famous trailer brake component manufacturers say to adjust your electric trailer brakes to just off lockup on dirt,,

Maybe with old fashioned on/off style brake controllers but with newer proportional style controllers (like my Tow Pro) that's just not gonna work (unless I set it to off-road mode so it then functions like an old style dumb controller).

If, Fluids, you have your trailer brakes wound up that tight,,(as we all should--) and still have brake fade, I would adjust your downhill driving speed!!:p;):D

The proportional controller relies and detecting the G force created during deceleration ... if the tow vehicle can't create sufficient deceleration force the brake controller isn't going to respond with sufficient braking application for the trailer ... and I'm not stopping at the top of every big hill to switch the Tow Pro into off-road mode :D .... that would be however a very effective way of "throwing the anchor" out the back :cool:

and you have, gasp! a manual!:o:wasntme:

No no dude, it's an auto, and I always downshift and lock the auto into 2 or even 1 on big downhill runs.

[Fluids]

any thoughts for the slotted and drilled options

Slotted (and dimpled) are OK

Cross drilled are a NO

[Fluids]

I run Delios slotted rotors front and back and they are a growing company in Aus with a great reputation :D
Delios also supply marks 4wd for all their engineed GVM Upgrades and Portal conversion`s.
And no im not affiliated with Delios i just dont get the hype for the big names because they are big names;)
Delios | Brake rotors, performance braking, 4WD brakes (http://www.deliosbrakes.com/)

And Marks4wd site
Delios (http://www.marks4wd.com/delios.html)


Thanks Chris ... checked them out (Marks) but they don't have an option showing for front or rear for a D2. You've got them on your D2 ?

[Disco Muppet]

He's not the only one :cool:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/624.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/DiscoMuppet/media/IMAG1000_zpszdzvclmi.jpg.html)

Delios slotted front rotors, plus Akebono pads.
No noise, SFA dust, great stopping :cool:
Cheaper than DBA too.

I had mine supplied through my local brake shop, I'm sure Chris can put you in touch with Todd.

[Fluids]

Hey Fluids!:o
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/625.jpg


Nah .... They're cross-drilled :p

:angel:

[Fluids]

He's not the only one :cool:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/624.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/DiscoMuppet/media/IMAG1000_zpszdzvclmi.jpg.html)

Delios slotted front rotors, plus Akebono pads.
No noise, SFA dust, great stopping :cool:
Cheaper than DBA too.

I had mine supplied through my local brake shop, I'm sure Chris can put you in touch with Todd.


Thanks Muppet ! ... that answers my prior question. What sort of $$ for the Delios fronts & Akebono pads ?? (I thought the Akebono pads where worth a kings ransom ??) Less $$ is always better when the quality remains same or better ... What about your rears ?? I know they don't work anywhere near as hard but no point improving the fronts and leaving the rears standard !

[rangieman]

Thanks Chris ... checked them out (Marks) but they don't have an option showing for front or rear for a D2. You've got them on your D2 ?

Yes my D2a and front and back slotted;)
Delios are doing their own pads at the moment so might pay to contact them re availability :cool:
Oh contact Delios direct for a good deal .
You may Pm me for some secret squirrel help.