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matbor
2nd November 2005, 03:57 PM
Started a new thread....

Originally posted by matbor+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(matbor)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-hook
Which one was build first, the G4 as above
or this one seen in Cairns
http://www.aulro.com/albums/album64/S3700320.thumb.jpg



http://www.aulro.com/albums/album64/S3700323.thumb.jpg

Love it... here is a bigger version of the pic...
http://www.aulro.com/albums/album64/S3700323.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/albums/album64/S3700320.jpg

Looks like they have kept the LR diff and running gear, cut it in half, reinforced it and sealed it and just welded a draw bar on it. Also looks like they have also just run overrun brakes to the original LR ones... pretty cool. Also pretty cool because u could leave the petrol/diesel tank in place and u don't need to carry jerry cans !!!

How heavy do u think it would be :?:

Now who has a wrecked disco that I can have style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

Matt.[/b][/quote]

Was thinking about the weight, and it would be quite heavy, axel, that ladder frame chassis, door's etc... would weight at least 500-900 kg's in the above setup

But in a effect to make it lighter, you would do the following :
1. replace all glass with either tinted Perspex or aluminium painted black
2. replace the axle and suspension with different setup (but then again, I would prefer to keep the original setup)
3. remove all of the interior, I mean all of it !!
4.

Got bored today and was thinking how I would set mine up,
1. Full kitchen at the rear door, including the kitchen sink style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif all ready to cook, so all you do is open the door and turn the GAS on and start cooking.
2. Rod holders inside the roof line and a oztent, and anything else that is long.
3. keep the petrol tank and filler, and setup some form of transfer pump
4. water tanks in the rear foot wells and twin Engel fridges on rails above this and clothing storage above that again or you could just have clothing on one side and one Engel on the other. you would also have one of the sides as your shower area, so that you have a shower screen hanging off the door.
5. overrun brakes using the disco original ones
6. have the oztent awning running when the oztent is setup at the back door from the top of the back door so that u can enclose the rear off it is wet !! or u could setup some awning that rolls out when you open the door, now that would be clever !!
7. toolbox on the draw bar, which would have recovery gear and batteries stored there, also u could put the GAS bottles there too, similar to a caravan.
8. above toolbox, either a mountain bike rack or another spare wheel.
9.

As you can see there is sooooo many possibilities here !!!

Would be a good project if you wanted something unique !!!

Only wonder how it would go off-road, don't think it could handle the real rough stuff, but that doesn't matter.

Matt.

VladTepes
2nd November 2005, 04:11 PM
re the first point 2: In Qld at least and I'll bet other states aer similar, you can;t legally have a trailer using the diff you need to make up a new / one piece axle from hub to hub.

re the second points:

3- if you mean a transfer pump to transfer fuel from the trailer to the vehicle (as it was driving) that would be very dangerous and probably illegal.

It seems to me that it would be a VERY heavy outfit, not suited particularly to off-road travel. It would probably end up costing youas much as a decent camper trailer.

But I'll grant you - it would LOOK cool :!:

one_iota
2nd November 2005, 04:19 PM
For a sleep-in version why not start at the A Pillar / firewall?

p38arover
2nd November 2005, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by VladTepes
In Qld at least and I'll bet other states aer similar, you can;t legally have a trailer using the diff you need to make up a new / one piece axle from hub to hub.

I'm not doubting you Vlad but I wonder why. The rear axle of a RR/Disco would be quite strong. I saw an article in RR Club mag of a trailer where the owner used a RR rear end and used it to carry a spare diff as well.

Ron

VladTepes
2nd November 2005, 04:41 PM
Because its bureaucracy - rules made by those who do not understand much, that's why. :twisted:

The reference and links to forms etc (that show requirments for a trailer that can be registered) are here:
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinf...estion2#trailer (http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinfo.nsf/index/registration_question2#trailer)


Thanks for not doubting me Ron style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif .... that makes ONE of you style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

p38arover
2nd November 2005, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by VladTepes
Thanks for not doubting me Ron style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif .... that makes ONE of you style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

That's OK. I'll doubt you tomorrow.

Ron

matbor
2nd November 2005, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by VladTepes+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(VladTepes)</div><div class='quotemain'>
3- if you mean a transfer pump to transfer fuel from the trailer to the vehicle (as it was driving) that would be very dangerous and probably illegal.[/b]

God no.... more just a simple syphon...

<!--QuoteBegin-VladTepes

It seems to me that it would be a VERY heavy outfit, not suited particularly to off-road travel. It would probably end up costing youas much as a decent camper trailer. [/quote]

Very true...

DEFENDERZOOK
3rd November 2005, 05:42 AM
<span style="color:blue">for fuel transfer a simple electric fuel pump....
preferably one with a high flow rate....

also the tank will already come with a fuel pump.....


all you then need is a bit of fuel hose to run to your tank then switch the pump on.....


simple......</span>

harry
3rd November 2005, 06:30 AM
8) vlad, i don't believe a diff is illegal on a trailer - couldn't find reference to it in the form you put up.
years ago we had a 7 x 5 with an old ford diff it towed really well, a bit heavy to push around [therefore heavy to tow] but it rode well.

matbor
3rd November 2005, 08:00 AM
Here you go, "National Code of Practice for BUILDING SMALL TRAILERS" don't know how current it is, someone sent it to me a couple of years back...

http://disco.bordignons.net/misc/Building Trailers.pdf

Matt.

sclarke
3rd November 2005, 08:03 AM
Weight ballance is the problem i see....

a true trailer is designed to have 10% of its weight on the towball. So getting the axle in the right spot is the trick.
Or load the front or rear to match it.

abaddonxi
3rd November 2005, 09:14 AM
Ummm,

You use the spare diff in the trailer to fix the busted diff.



What happens to the trailer?

Plus you're putting all of those extra k's spinning the diff.


I'd have thought that you'd take out the chassis rails down, for balance, for weight, you probably wouldn't need the same size chassis on a trailer - no two-axle flex, just load.

cheers

SImon

p38arover
3rd November 2005, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by abaddonxi
You use the spare diff in the trailer to fix the busted diff.

Plus you're putting all of those extra k's spinning the diff.


No, the housing is merely a diff carrier. The Land Rover has a fully floating rear end so you don't need any drive axles to support the hubs. The wheels won't drive the diff 'cos there's no axles.

Ron

MacMan
3rd November 2005, 05:40 PM
"Dude, where's my engine?"