Disco 1 3.9 auto question

[Utemad]

Hi guys,

I posted this on Outer Limits but though I might get some more responses here.

I just drove a 1995 (I think) 3.9 auto SE. It was awesome. So smooth. Not a real power house but I wasn't expecting it to be from reading others opinions here. However it was so smooth and had heaps more power than the Tdi or my Rodeo. This one was in excellent condition and was stock except for bullbar, towbar and alarm. They wanted $14k for it.

My biggest question I have after driving this fantastic machine is that when I put it in low range with the CDL unlocked the gear changes went from super smooth (high range) to a real THUD. I asked the salesman about it and he admitted he new jack about Landrovers. He was worried I was driving it with it in low locked but I explained to him that Discos have a low unlock position (don't think he believed me ) Is this normal? I wouldn't have thought so.

Also the exhaust was a single system that ran down the left hand side. The drivers side pipe came over to meet the passenger side making a 90 degree bend up front somewhere and when it ran across the car at 180 degrees to the rest of the pipe before rejoining the main pipe it looked highly susceptible to being torn off. Does it actually get torn off? What is the usual exhaust configuration for these from an aftermarket viewpoint?

Thanks all. I reckon it will be v8 auto for me but there are still two combinations to test drive yet.

Th other model I have driven was the manual Tdi. I didn't like it at all.

[Outlaw]

i don't know much from a technical point of view, but i do know the noise or general smoothness of my auto doesn't change in low locked or unlocked... someone else will give you more specifics though style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[hiline]

whats your location ????

[Utemad]

Sorry I am in Brisbane. Fixed my profile to represent that now.

It is not the vehicle I am interested in as such. I want to drive all the 4 engine/gearbox combinations available in the D1 update. I then have a friend in the trade who will get one for me at the right price.

I am just trying to find out about all the problems they have. I have read a lot in various forums archives. However I have not read about this issue of the smooth high range auto changes while have really rough low range auto changes.

This was in low unlocked as I was on bitumen. I drove it about 100m and every gear change shook the car. It was like there was no clutch slippage between gears. Just bang from one to the other.

Thanks for your help guys.

[BMac]

The bang is bad - probably worn suspension componants that show up with the extra power transmitted in lo range. Mine was smooth in hi or lo.

The exhaust on mine was the same and although it got bashed a few times it never got ripped out.

Get a 97 or later if you can as they are a bit nicer inside. Having said that, I sold mine so I could get a 86 County and have never regretted it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Bruce.

[Utemad]

It wasn't suspension. Even if you just ever so lightly accelerated enough so as to progress through the gears it would give the exact same bang each gear change. I've never had an auto 4x4 so I can't think of what it would be but it must be in the low range side of the transfer case for it to only do it in low range???

What changed post 97? I thought all the update models 95-98? were cosmetically the same. I have read that the gear at the back of the gearbox (the one that gets cross drilled as a fix) is different post 97. I am not aware of any other differences (that I can think of right now).

Thanks.

[Lucy]

Originally posted by Utemad
They wanted $14k for it.

Sounds like a lot for that model 8O , shop around, you will find cheaper.

I have a V8i auto, love it, but its my second car. I know what you're saying about the manual Tdi, but wait till you drive the auto, they are great, wish I'd kept ours - traded it on the Td5 auto. If I'd known I was going to be able to afford another disco, I would have kept it for sure. Less power and slower than the V8i off the mark, but went more than twice as far on a litre of fuel, and was otherwise just as enjoyable to drive, except overtaking manouvers needed to be planned 2 weeks in advance.

[Utemad]

It is too much for that model but I am just driving whatever I can get my hands on at the moment. I haven't found an auto Tdi yet to test drive. This weekend I will get on the net and find some more vehicles to drive.

I origninally wanted a V8 as they are cheap as atm but then I thought Tdi would be better as I would like a good range for touring. However most of my trips are to 4wd parks and I do very little in the way of touring. Something I would like to rectify. However some people in our club go everywhere in duel fuel patrols and cruisers. They just use petrol when they need to. Oh yeah I was considering converting it to dual fuel.
I also was worried about longevity of the Tdi. Some quote high milage but there is a lot of 200kms and shes stuffed talk. Not sure how much is talk though. Had a friend who did almost 400km on his (man/Tdi300)in only 4-5 years. Was a company vehicle that went all over Qld regularly.

I get about 12L/100km in my Rodeo. Not too worried about high teens but would be annoyed if consistently over 20L/100km.

The Tdi I drove was slow. As in everyone in the right hand lane would go past you and then the people behind you would overtake you LOL. I have driven a 3 litre Hilux N/A fully loaded that felt like it had more power!

Thanks for your thoughts.

[shaunp]

TDI engines will do way more than 200k, I have a mate with on 250 on his and the engine goes great, still makes the same boost as it did when new. One of the blokes at work as an early 3.5 5speed 2 door that he is going to sell as soon as his XR6 Falcon arrives. I think he wants around 5-6k I think, it's done 150k from memory.I think it needs a few things done but may be worth a look at that price. It's in Brisbane some where.

[Utemad]

Originally posted by shaunp+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(shaunp)</div><div class='quotemain'>TDI engines will do way more than 200k... [/b]

I have seen a few high mileage ones but I worry about how much it will cost me if I get one of the duds. I do like the sound of 10L/100km though. Will try to test drive an auto Tdi this weekend.

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One of the blokes at work as an early 3.5 5speed 2 door that he is going to sell as soon as his XR6 Falcon arrives.[/quote]

Thanks but I want a Disco. My mate will get me one when I decide on which variant it will be style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

mmmmmmm decisions decisions

[one_iota]

Hi utemad,

Well I don't get to the next red light sooner than a V8. But I get to my destination at about the same time as everyone else (give or take a car length or two).

I don't have to carry jerry cans to fill up the tank during a long weekends drive.

So in the real world it just boils down to the sweet sound of the V8 and whether you can afford to buy a ticket to the Opera everytime you drive it. :wink:

It is want you want to do with it that you need to come grips with.

[shaunp]

Originally posted by Utemad+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Utemad)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by shaunp@
TDI engines will do way more than 200k...

I have seen a few high mileage ones but I worry about how much it will cost me if I get one of the duds. I do like the sound of 10L/100km though. Will try to test drive an auto Tdi this weekend.

<!--QuoteBegin-shaunp
One of the blokes at work as an early 3.5 5speed 2 door that he is going to sell as soon as his XR6 Falcon arrives.

Thanks but I want a Disco. My mate will get me one when I decide on which variant it will be style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

mmmmmmm decisions decisions[/b][/quote]
It is a Disco just a 2 door one.

[dougo]

Hi Utemad

I've got a Manufactured November 97 Manual V8 Disco.

I searched high and low to find the right car.
I purchased my Disoc 2nd hand when it had only 45,000Kms on the clock back in Jan 99

I wanted the Manual V8 for more control off road/Engine braking etc.

I've now got 165,000kms on the clock and I recently had to have the gear box rebuilt due to the 3rd gear Syncro gears falling apart and dropping teeth into the oil pan when the oil was last changed.

Apart from this rather traumatic experience, the car has been fantastic.

In the process of purchasing my Disco my old man got interested and we also purchase a Feb 96 Auto V8 Disco for him that runs on LPG.

Auto Vs' Manual
Yea the Auto is very smooth but even when my fathers V8 is running on Petrol it never has as much go as my Manual V8.

Sand Driving, Well an auto is always going to change gears faster then you or i can and so the Auto in this environment is great.
However in downhill docents you've got less of a runaway with the manual box.
Plus if you have a wife/girlfriend they will probably prefer the Auto.

As for the noises, The Auto should be smooth all the way through the gears hi and low. My manual box is and so is my old mans auto.
LPG?
LPG, my fathers Disco’s setup is that the main Petrol tank is removed and replace with two LPG cylinders and a side 45L petrol tank stuffed up the rear panel.

When the LPG/ Engine was last serviced the difference on the Dyno (LPG.Vrs Petol) was only 5Kw difference .. 5kw more on Petrol!

There has been a few issues with the gas kit. First of all the gas ring fitted on the inlet manifold was two small so when the butterfly anti-blowback valve opened the inlet manifold was restricted. Also a backfire damaged the butterfly ant-blowback causing it to not open. Took some time to locate this issue.

I considered at one point getting LPG fitted, but with the troubles my father had I can't be stuffed.

So here's my tips to looking for a new disco

Check the font swivel pre-load! What is that?
Kneel up against one of the front wheels and rock the wheel with all of your weight.
You’ll feel a clicking back and forth.
My Disco with 165,000kms on the clock has only a small amount of play. Some of the discos I looked at when purchasing with only 50,000km on the clock had huge amounts of play in the font end.
You can get this fixed but it's just one other bargaining chip you have with who's selling the car. (Plus you’ll confuse the hell out of the person selling the Disco)
Dash peel was a issue in up to 97 Discos. No problem on my 97 or the 96.

As you mentioned there was a improvement in quality of the discos from 97 onwards and that's why I was lucky to get a manual v8 of that year.

If I compare my 97 to my old mans 96 there are not really any major things that you can pick out. Perhaps my Car is bolted together a bit better.

Check the little things all work on the disco.
Cruse control not slipping at 100kmh, all the electric and switches work.
Rear ball joint from the A-Frame that links to the top of the rear axel may be stuffed. Lessen for loud clucks when going over bumps. (You many notice it more in a manual as the auto tends to smooth out the acceleration.)

There are more things to look out for but I’m sure you’ve done your homework.

On a whole I’ve been very happy with my Disco. Has never let me down and it’s got so much more personality/style then the Toyota’s out there!

[Utemad]

Originally posted by one_iota
Well I don't get to the next red light sooner than a V8. But I get to my destination at about the same time as everyone else (give or take a car length or two).

I don't have to carry jerry cans to fill up the tank during a long weekends drive.

So in the real world it just boils down to the sweet sound of the V8 and whether you can afford to buy a ticket to the Opera everytime you drive it. :wink:

It is want you want to do with it that you need to come grips with.

Thanks for the info. I'm not after a speed racer as it is a 4wd after all. What I want is a vehicle that will be able to tow a camper (don't have one yet) and maintain a reasonable speed up long hills. My Rodeo can only maintain speed on long hills if it is empty not towing anything style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif . A friend with an auto Tdi says his will do that. I also like the sound of the economy. However the manual one I drove was horrible to drive to put it plainly. I'll take an auto for a spin but I can't see it being much better. Probably smoother but slower. I'll see how I go.

The 3 litre Hilux I was comparing it to was manual and very smooth. It did only have 20 000kms on it though. I drove it for about 1700kms over 4 days. Quit nice on the highway so long as you didn't plan on overtaking. Even around town it was quicker than the Disco.
I wouldn't want either as a city car though.

[Utemad]

Hi Dougo

That is one hell of a first post style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Thanks for your input. I'll take it into account.

For the gas I was considering the scuba tanks in the back and getting a long range tank for petrol. This will allow me to have an acceptable range for touring although less than a diesel. However depending on install costs of gas (haven't looked yet) and the petrol usage I may not go for gas at all. I might try and source all the parts myself and do the install and have someone check, tune and plate it. Should be much cheaper. As for fuel usage it would appear that the petrol Patrols/Cruisers in our club are just as bad if not worse so I'm not too concerned. Although they are bigger vehicles of course.

I asked a guy in my club about the low range banging of the auto. He said his did it too. However we went for a spin in his and it didn't do it. He had just had his auto reconditioned for $3k (only 100kms ago) and it was really smooth so I guess when your auto bangs in low range it is time for an auto rebuild.

Of all the electric gizmos that I have looked at in the Discos it would appear that the electric mirrors are prone to not working properly. Some I have looked at click and look like they want o move but can't. Thought this might be a stripped gear or something in the mirror. The windows have all worked so far however what is the deal with the back ones only going half way down? Is there any way of getting them down all the way?

Anyway I'll look at some more on the weekend. Looking forward to it 8)

[Baggy]

Utemad,

Disco rear windows were only designed to go halfway down
because of the design of rear door with cut out for wheel arch
no room for glass to down further.

I owned a 93 Rodeo Duel cab 2.6 ltre petrol 4x4 and it was a great bus.
Didn't do much four wheel driving, but what we did it never let me down
either style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I have 96 Disco 3.9 Auto on gas (3 x scuba tanks) and while LPG
may not be available the further you go away from populated area's
in the city my fuel consumption, taking into account diffrence between
diesel cost to LPG is equal to if not better (even though I have to fill up
more times) I also only use Premium unleaded because of the money
I save on gas I rather use better quaility fuel.

When I researched on fuel consumption on V8i average city driving was
quoted at 17L/100K and that can hurt hence why I got LPG fitted.
Most quoted V8i can go 500,000K without major overhall, and Auto
is bullet proof. (like everything it comes down to previous owners looking
and servicing them regulary)

I never had a Landrover prior to purchasing my Disco, but woud'nt
change it for the world. My wife loves it, she never felt comfortable
driving to areas she didn't know prior to getting it but now she
goes "Discovering all over the place".

My opinion $for$ you can't buy the style, comfort and off road
preformance that goes with a Disco or any Landy for that matter.

Good luck in your future purchase.

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Cheers

Baggy

[Utemad]

Originally posted by Baggy
Disco rear windows were only designed to go halfway down because of the design of rear door with cut out for wheel arch
no room for glass to down further.

Never thought of that style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif I thought there must have been a 2nd kiddie safety switch. In addition to the total lockout switch on the console.


Originally posted by Baggy
I owned a 93 Rodeo Duel cab 2.6 ltre petrol 4x4 and it was a great bus.
Didn't do much four wheel driving, but what we did it never let me down
either style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Mine is also a 4x4 dual cab 2.6 litre but it is a 1997 model. The very last of the 2.6L. Very reliable but does not have the power, ability or comfort of a Disco. I always laugh when people get defensive and say "my Rodeo/Jackaroo/Navara/Pathfinder etc etc will go anywere the big boys will". I know first hand that that coment is a load of rubbish style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif I'll try as hard as I can to follow them but unless it is squeezing between trees then there will always be places they will get to that my wheel travel, ramp over, approach or departure angle will stop me.


Originally posted by Baggy+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Baggy)</div><div class='quotemain'> I have 96 Disco 3.9 Auto on gas (3 x scuba tanks)[/b]

How many litres of gas does that give you and what is your range on gas?
How much room do you lose in the storage area? I had a friend with this setup but he sold it about 4 years ago. He had a wooden cover built over it so the area was still flat but I can't remember how high the installation sat.

<!--QuoteBegin-Baggy
My wife loves it, she never felt comfortable
driving to areas she didn't know prior to getting it but now she
goes "Discovering all over the place".[/quote]

My Wife often says she would feel more comfortable if we had a more capable wagon. As she feels it is disconcerting when we scrape over the rocks. Plus she has never really liked the commercial nature of the Rodeo. Although I love the vinyl floor. I was considering getting one made up for the Disco. Sure you can get rubber mats but they are not as good as a full vinyl floor.


Originally posted by Baggy
My opinion $for$ you can't buy the style, comfort and off road preformance that goes with a Disco or any Landy for that matter.

I have found this too. Plus I wanted a mid size wagon with coil suspension and front and rear solid axles. So there is only one decision to make D1 or D2 style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif (ok maybe some more.....V8, diesel, auto, manual, S, SE, SE7, ES.......................)

[Utemad]

Originally posted by shaunp
It is a Disco just a 2 door one.

Ok sorry I thought you were talking about a Range Rover.

I'm after a 4 door model. No kiddes yet but there will be before I sell it 8O

Plus I'd prefer an update model.

[Scouse]

$14000 is around double what they're worth in Sydney at the moment (depending on the car of course).

One of the mechanics here has just bought a '97 3.9 auto, 85000km & one owner for $7000. It's an S, not SE but then it doesn't have ABS/SRS which might be preferable for some.

[Utemad]

Originally posted by Scouse
One of the mechanics here has just bought a '97 3.9 auto, 85000km & one owner for $7000. It's an S, not SE but then it doesn't have ABS/SRS which might be preferable for some.

This is exactly what I am after 8)
I only want an S. I don't want the ABS/SRS either.

I reckon I could get around $7k for a private buy. Most advertise for more but there are so many for sale. It would be a matter of finding a couple I would like and offering low then leaving your name and number when they tell you to #%*@ off. They'll get desperate sooner or later style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif I'll see what my mate can turn up. Apparently V8 Discos are thick on the ground.

I have found that the V8s are mostly reasonably low kms here. Low 100km seems to be the norm. Must be too expensive to run style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Utemad]

Hi all,

Thought this info might help others too. I just got off the phone from an LPG company (who is totally snowed under) and they had just completed an LPG install on a D1 with 3.9 V8 and manifold tank (apparently that is what they call the 3 scuba tanks). They charged him $1980 using 2nd hand tanks but it would cost approximately $2500 with new tanks.

However I spoke to a supplier and he reckons that the manifold tank has ceased production until they can catch up with demand for the others. This is due to the manifold tanks requiring more time to build than the normal tanks. Probably Feb-Mar 2006 before production resumes.

Apparently someone has also just developed a way to get the gas filler inside the standard petrol filler door too.

I thought it would cost more? Sounds pretty good especially with 2nd hand tanks.

[PhilipA]

Just on the issue of harshness of the auto in low ratio.
My 92 Range Rover odoes not clunk but changing from 1 to 2 can give an almighty lurch simply because you have a lot of torque multiplication.
Conceivably a Disco could clunk because of play in the transfer. Some are worse than others but they are all more clunky than the Borg Warner in a Rangie.
Why not look at a Rangie?? seeing a Disco is just a cheapened Rangie with cheaper components eg LT230 rather than Borg Warner, sintered diff sun gears instead of machined steel,no load leveller, smaller load area, cheaper trim etc etc.
Rangies are not much dearer.
Regards Philip A

[Utemad]

Originally posted by PhilipA+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PhilipA)</div><div class='quotemain'>Just on the issue of harshness of the auto in low ratio.
My 92 Range Rover odoes not clunk but changing from 1 to 2 can give an almighty lurch simply because you have a lot of torque multiplication.
Conceivably a Disco could clunk because of play in the transfer. Some are worse than others but they are all more clunky than the Borg Warner in a Rangie.
[/b]

This is definately a big clunk during every gear change in low range only. We have narrowed this down to the auto already as I explained above. With the reco'd box my friends was perfectly smooth. No clunks at all. He reckoned it drove like new. This was a 3.9L and associated auto box and transfer from a Disco but in a 1989 Range Rover.

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Why not look at a Rangie?? seeing a Disco is just a cheapened Rangie with cheaper components eg LT230 rather than Borg Warner, sintered diff sun gears instead of machined steel,no load leveller, smaller load area, cheaper trim etc etc.
Rangies are not much dearer.
Regards Philip A[/quote]

I have had a bit of a look for Range Rovers. However whereas every paper has 10+ 3.9 V8 Discos you are lucky to get 1 or 2 Rangies. These are either really old ones or really expensive ones.

Have you seen any Rangies (not old 3.5L ones) for under $10k? Let me know if you do as I would actually be interested. Although I know little about them. When did they get the bigger motor? They got the 4.0 not the 3.9 didn't they?

[PhilipA]

Rangies got 3.9 in 1989, again they only offered Discos as 2 door and 3.5 to delineate them as a cheaper model.
The best Range Rover IMHO is a 92 Vogue, which I deliberately bought as it has the 3.9, good assembly forced by the Yanks, the Borg Warnertransfer , all the niceties like windows, cruise (mine is aftermarket) , remote central( again aftermarket but fitted by Repeller for Rover Oz), leccy mirrors,10 stacker. .
It DOES NOT have
ABS, air suspension, power seats, leather, or a sunroof. All of these things give problems in Rovers and are EXPENSIVE to fix.

You should be able to find one out there for 10grand with less than 160K, but agreed they are few and far between.

The later 94 95 has the same Dash as a Disco which came originally from a Honda Legend/Rover Vitesse but these are more complex and expensive to keep going, however if you are skilled you can overcome most of the air suspension/ABS inevitable problems.
Oh a Rangie is lighter and has a smaller frontal area than a Disco so gets a bit better economy.
These are old cars now. You cannot expect even a 95 Disco to be trouble free as in car terms they are in the twilight of their life.
By the way, the 4 litre engine is just a 3.9 which has been expanded by "marketing speak " to match the Cherokee when the 38A Range Rover was introduced in 95. However it has a better fuel injection, the GEMS system.
Regard s Philip A

[Utemad]

Cool. Thanks for the Rangie info. Will most likely still get the Disco though due to their availability.

I'm aware a vehicle of this age may have some issues but I'm not overly concerned. I've never worked on a Rover but I am quite capable in the garage. I don't want a newer model as if I got a D2 I would get upset if I dented it. Whatever vehicle I get it will get used hard offroad. Not comp stuff but on our club trips someone usually breaks/damages something.

I'm going to attempt to drive the man/v8 and auto/td today. It is raining though.

Getting excited.

[Utemad]

Can't find any to drive today. However I did see this on the net.

http://www.drive.com.au/used/search/detail...o#DealerDetails (http://www.drive.com.au/used/search/detail.aspx?id=2433532&pg=1&pp=2&d=0&nv=1&action=moreinfo#DealerDetails)

Quite unbelievable 8O

[LRHybrid100]

hmmmm - 4,900 kms on a 1997

I'd be asking a lot of questions!!!

LRH

[dougo]

The Rear window only go down half way due to the wheel arch getting in the way of window winding down. Not enought depth in the door.
At least kids or the dog can't climb out to easy!

[Baggy]

Utemad,

The 3 Scuba tanks suppost to hold 63 lites with 20% being
unaccessable to use ( think its used to pressurise / run the system)
The most I've been able to fill in is 56 litres and that once only.
Cost an average of $25.00c to fill with range of approx 220 KMs
4.5 tanks @$25.00c almost 1000 kms for $113.00c style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I on average we fill up gas twice a week and add small amount of
fuel to run the petrol system. We only use Hi Octane when we fill in
fuel the diffrence between that and std unleaded is not that much extra
and motor runs better. We were also told not to hold much fuel in tank
as fuel does goes off.
My system new was 2,500.00c with $500 gov't rebate so $2,000.00c
They say can't fit LPG to series 2 Disco's but I've been told today you
can get a system approx $4,500.00c but at that price you would have
to seriously consider the viability style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

My tanks were fitted offset to R H Side which I think is std practice.
I have mates who were all mad 4x4 enthusiasts and cabinetmakers
to boot. They all have decked out the rear of they vehicles with custom
made drawers systems based on many years experience.
Day after the fitting of the tanks they measured and fitted chipboard
panel thats goes over tanks between the storage bins, covered in fabric
that blends in with interior. Because the tanks offset they fitted a single
slide out drawer which I store gear.
Because of the Discoverys stepped up roof line no noticable loss of
interior space. When you look through side or rear window, wouldn't
know its not standard :wink:
I'm thinking of adding cargo barrier and fitting extra 2 pull out drawers
to bring it up to top of storage bins for extra storage of gear and still
have room because of the high roof line.


Cheers

Baggy

[tombraider]

Originally posted by PhilipA
Just on the issue of harshness of the auto in low ratio.
My 92 Range Rover odoes not clunk but changing from 1 to 2 can give an almighty lurch simply because you have a lot of torque multiplication.

Mine was the same.
With the Supercharged 5 litre Hi was smooth and quick.
When in Low the shifts between gears were very sharp and noticeable.
This was, like you say, a product of torque multiplication.
However an agressive shift should not be accompanied by a loud clunk, although any 2nd hand disco will have some backlash in the drivetrain.

Which *can* be reduced by the fitting of lockers!!!!! And tightening the tolerance on the CW&P during the installation! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

Cheers
Mike

[tombraider]

Originally posted by Baggy
Cost an average of $25.00c to fill with range of approx 220 KMs
4.5 tanks @$25.00c almost 1000 kms for $113.00c style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
I can get close to that from my TD5 with 3 less trips to the servo! :wink:

Cheers
Mike

[Utemad]

Thanks guys.

The description of the scuba tanks is very good. I was thinking of mounting my compressor in the left over place on the LHS. I'll make up a cover as you mention. The range isn't as good as I would like but I'll live with it. At least the overall range will go up as I plan on fitting a long range petrol tank for those big trips.
It is interesting that the D2 doesn't like gas. I don't know much about the D2 but I didn't think the difference between the 3.9 and 4.0 was great. Live and learn.

The Rangie I spoke about earlier. The driver said that the clunk/bang was gone but it was still noticeable that it changed gears when in low range. But it was more of a smooth torque surge as you have described. It was a nice ride he gave me though. There will be a rear air locker not long after I get it.

A TD5 would be nice but for what I will be paying for this it won't come anywhere near the price of a TD5. Plus I want a D1 so when I damage it I won't care so much.

Thanks all. Been a bit busy this week but tomorrow I will be searching for the elusive auto/td and man/v8.

[BigT]

Hi Utemad
I have a Tdi auto its bloody brilliant, fuel econ 9-11 l/100, it pulls great
it was a bit sluggish but had injector pump re built now you cant stop it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[LRHybrid100]

Originally posted by BigT
Hi Utemad
I have a Tdi auto its bloody brilliant, fuel econ 9-11 l/100, it pulls great
it was a bit sluggish but had injector pump re built now you cant stop it style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Yeah my Tdi Auto was sluggish until I had ny injection pump recalibrated - now even boosts more!!!

LRH

[Grizzly_Adams]

You guys talking about your tdi auto's are making me jealous :cry: :cry: :oops: :oops: :oops:

[Baggy]

Originally posted by tombraider+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tombraider)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Baggy
Cost an average of $25.00c to fill with range of approx 220 KMs
4.5 tanks @$25.00c almost 1000 kms for $113.00c style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
I can get close to that from my TD5 with 3 less trips to the servo! :wink:

Cheers
Mike[/b][/quote]

Mike,

Don't rub it in, but its nice to be getting near same KMs overall for as you diesel guys and at similar price.
Still, my windshield is cleaner than yours. (nothing better to do than clean it while filling up) :wink:

Cheers
Baggy

[LRHybrid100]

Originally posted by Grizzly_Adams
You guys talking about your tdi auto's are making me jealous :cry: :cry: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Mate just do it!!!

My D100 currently has both V8 and Tdi engine mounts - just in case I want to swap over for a while style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif 8O style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

LRH

[matbor]

Originally posted by LRHybrid100
My D100 currently has both V8 and Tdi engine mounts - just in case I want to swap over for a while style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif 8O style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

LRH

Where are the updated pics located style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif :?:

[LRHybrid100]

my chassis and rear tub are away having a holiday - so I cannot get to them to take some pix.

I will be building a D100 diary on my web site soon, watch this space

LRH

[matbor]

cool, so which one are u bringing down next year for Wandin ?

[LRHybrid100]

Rangie - the D100 will be a while away from being finished, maybe Wandin 2007???

LRH

[matbor]

At least we will hear you coming, what with that 3" exhaust 8)

[Utemad]

I looked at a few more Discos. Every single one I have seen so far has rust in the alpine windows to some degreee. How hard is it to fix this?

I searched and found a few mentions of the problem but didn't find the cure.

Thanks

[knuts2au]

97V8i, Auto, 4door, ABS/SRS, cruise, electrics, 85,000K's driven by little old lady on Sundays (towing a horse float all over the state).The company paid $26,000 (tooooo much) from a car yard in Bendigo. Was imacculate condition (even had a classical music cassette still in the player), full service history. That was Feb.04. Have replaced front and rear coils (sagged on drivers side), ABS disabled due to faulty wheel sensors (common), (waiting for me to cut them open and repair), vacuum advance unit replaced (common), rollers in window mech. replaced (common). Now 145'000k's, get's around 16l/100k highway, 20+ town. Last trip towing car on trailer 20l/100k. Drives great, wife loves it, i love it, kids love it, tows great, great for loading work gear in back. Go city, highway, bush and not out of place. Downs, loves juice (company fuel card), not much leg room in back seat (don't sit in the back), not worth $10,000 now cos it's a V8 (not mine), magnetic signs don't stick to the doors (got little ones for the roof). Overall very happy, thats my vehicles story.

[Utemad]

Thanks for the info.

I drove a D2 auto V8 today to see what one of them would be like. Was quite nice as you'd expect. More room in the cargo area but didn't appear to have any more room for the occupants in the front or rear.

It was an interesting test drive though. I drove it out of the yard and stopped at the first traffic light. When it went green I accelerated briskly (not flat out by any means) and then took my foot off the accelerator pedal only to find the Disco was still accelerating!!! I jammed my foot on the brake and tried to pull the accelerator pedal up with my foot but it felt loose. I switched the ignition off and pulled over to the side of the road. I then restarted it to see what would happen and it revved up so I switched it off immediately. I opened the bonnet to find the black plastic engine cover was loose and appeared to have jammed the throttle open. I put the engine cover in the cabin and continued the test drive. It was fine after that style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

A question about the D2 brakes though. The brake pedal needed to be pushed past halfway (or there abouts) before it did anything. It felt quite out of place considering how responsive the accelerator pedal was. Is this normal?