Reasonable Km for second hand TDV6

[Ralph1Malph]

Hi all,
I am looking to purchase a D3, partly coz I am sans a working LR and partly coz, due to their age, they are falling in price.

Regards the TDV6, how many KM is too many? Open ended question I know, however there is likely a sweet spot? There are some for sale with 250+ but I'd prefer less I think.

I do intend to tow our camper as well as take my ailing dad on some trips into the centre over the next few years, hence I think a diesel if I can find one.

Cheers
Ralph

[Russrobe]

Tough question to answer.

I highly recommend buying from a reputable dealer rather than private sale if you're going to go over 150k kms as that gives you the 3 months Stat warranty to get it running 100% before you're on your own.

Make sure the timing belt has been done if it's clocked over 178k kms.

Transmission servicing will need to have been done, if not and it hasn't been rebuilt, budget for one ($4k-$5k)

I find the engine itself still runs great on our 198k kms tdv6 it's a few other parts that wore out. Such as the compressor.

In the end even if you have to do everything on the list accept the timing service, you've got yourself a great 4x4 you can drive happily for the next 100k kms.

Cheers

[Narangga]

Read through multiple threads 12 months ago before we purchased ours. Tried to find something that was less than 150,000 km and had the transmission serviced (and hadn't towed much).

Seem to be many well and truly over the 250,000 kms now so one at 150,000 should have plenty of life. Depends on your budget though.

PS - At 7 years or 168,000 km the timing belts need changing so checking that has been done is worthwhile.

[Ralph1Malph]

The more I read, I more I get the vibe that the 7yr/165k service is the big thing to look out for. Then the front suspension bushes and all the recalls.
Apart from that, I notice that few have bull bars (winch?) and even fewer have roof racks or bars...wonder why?
I would have thought that both would be common on LR!

Apart from that, I am still looking. There are some reasonable examples sub $20k, and a few more in the $25k area.

Cheers
Ralph

[PerthDisco]

We recently had news of a 400k km D4 (but the engine died). Makes my D3 with 150k look like a baby.

[Narangga]

The more I read, I more I get the vibe that the 7yr/165k service is the big thing to look out for. Then the front suspension bushes and all the recalls.
Apart from that, I notice that few have bull bars (winch?) and even fewer have roof racks or bars...wonder why?
I would have thought that both would be common on LR!

Apart from that, I am still looking. There are some reasonable examples sub $20k, and a few more in the $25k area.

Cheers
Ralph

As you have read, the replacement of the timing belts is around a $3,000 exercise unless you do it yourself. Should you need a new transmission then around $7,000 is likely, so getting transmission background on the vehicle you are after - e.g. has it towed, if so what, and has the transmission been serviced - is a must. By now most should have had the High Pressure Fuel Pump and the suspension compressor replaced. The Lower Control Arm bushes are a maintenance item.

Parts are more expensive than a D2. The steering rack our mechanic sourced was 'cheap' at $1,650. Air bags with shock are around $500 a corner.

Even more than the D2, the D3 (and subsequently the D4) are very much used as a 'Mum bus' or are a 'Toorak Tractor' - and we all know why! :D:D:D That's probably the main reason why not many have bullbars and roof racks. Anecdotally I think I have seen more bullbars on D4's than D3's. It may be because it took that long for many people to realise that the electronics would survive serious use off the bitumen. I was quoted $2,300 for a bullbar (fitted) a year ago and current prices on roof racks are around the $1,200 mark depending on your preference of manufacturer.

At the prices you indicated (I assume you are looking at an air suspension SE or an HSE rather than an S model with coils) then you will get something that is in reasonable condition. Ours is on 06/06 and had done 218,000 when we bought it. However it had a replacement engine that was 90,000 km old and a transmission that was 60,000 km. Even though the bodywork was a little rough we were happy to live with that as we were confident the big ticket items were going to last us quite a while. We paid $20K for it but it would have been a few thousand more had it not been in Broome and the owner needing to off load it reasonably quickly. Happy hunting to join Team Permagrin. :D

[Russrobe]

To be honest Ralph if we didn't buy from a reputable car yard and purchase a warranty I'd probably regret buying my high km D4.

We had a bad first 3 months though and think it was a bit outside normal circumstances.

Transmission rebuild $4500

New lower control arms $1800

New AMK Compressor $1000

New transfer case $1500??

Plus fitting for all of the above so over $10 000 total!

Lucky for us every cent was either covered by the statutory warranty you get from a dealer or the one we paid for (transmission. I'd never buy one of these privately, the 3 month stat warranty alone is too important.

Cheers

[BobD]

To be honest Ralph if we didn't buy from a reputable car yard and purchase a warranty I'd probably regret buying my high km D4.

We had a bad first 3 months though and think it was a bit outside normal circumstances.

Transmission rebuild $4500

New lower control arms $1800

New AMK Compressor $1000

New transfer case $1500??

Plus fitting for all of the above so over $10 000 total!

Lucky for us every cent was either covered by the statutory warranty you get from a dealer or the one we paid for (transmission. I'd never buy one of these privately, the 3 month stat warranty alone is too important.

Cheers
That's about what I have paid for my D4 over the last 12 months. It was all good until I hit 200,000 km and then everything is starting to go wrong. I now need new turbos and body off to fix a leaking cross over pipe at the back of the engine. Hence a good time to replace the noisy turbos even though they are going fine at the moment. I just had a new (second hand) transfer case fitted as well due to a failing input shaft bearing. The indie is hoping to source the turbos from England for less than the $9000 odd they cost here. The last lot he got was $5000 for the 2 from the UK.


Mine has a hard life, lots of 2.2 t towing in off road conditions and lots of outback and off road travel since I bought it in 2012 at 50,000 km old. Still fantastic in those conditions and I will keep it going rather than wrecking a new one doing what I do! Probably close to one third of the mileage I have put on it is on rough gravel or off road. It is now at 240,000 km.


Any car that hasn't had its tranny serviced regularly will need a new transmission pretty soon. That seems to be the reason most of them are sold from what I can see. Mine is still going strong but it is serviced every 50,000 or even less. I will be up for the $4500 soon though, no doubt. I just hope it doesn't give up in a remote area.

[jonesy63]

Hey Bob,
Check out this mob - Passenger Vehicles | GCG Turbochargers (http://gcg.com.au/oem-turbos-and-parts/passenger-vehicles/search?custom_parent_id=1&limitstart=0&vehicle_make=Landrover)

Cheers,
Rob