TD5 Disco Chip

[Batman]

I joined this group a few months back to help me make an informed choice with a Landrover, and have just bought a 99 TD5 auto, fully loaded. Its great to drive, has a better ride than my past 4x4's and fuel economy is better than the V6 Commodore I just traded. My only wish is more get up and go. How efective are these chip upgrades? And who can I trust to do the job in South East QLD? Any suggestions help. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[disconut]

Ricks 4WD in Nerang did mine.
Its a Bruce Davis Chip. 20 min change over.
He is a Land Rover only workshop.

ricks4wdcentre@bigpond.com;

cheers,

Trev.

[septimus]

The Bruce Davis chip in my 99 TD5 Defender improved the performance significantly once you get to the point where the turbo cuts in. I had it done by Bruce by posting my ECU to him although he prefers to have it done in a workship so it can be tested after installation.

I have no hesitation in recommending this upgrade.

[Piddler]

Mine like wise, Awesome. Before ECU upgrade when i first drove mine I was disappointed. After Bruce's 15 min I was stoked.

the best thing since crown lager

regards
Piddler

[Captain_Rightfoot]

MR automotive at Redcliffe also do the job. They are supposed to be very good. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[George130]

The chip makes a big difference! Well worth it.

[stevo]

A great mod for dragging fords and holdens from lights gives them a suprise plus passing toyota's up hill what a feeling style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif going back for a tune up next week as have fitted a larger intercooler

[hiline]

stevo let me know how the bigger intercoolers goes style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

been thinking about it for awhile now

[Slunnie]

I've got a bigger intercooler and chip. The intercooler in my opinion gives a bigger power boost than the chip upgrade. Off the line, the Disco absolutely flys, and it keeps pulling hard.

[feral]

Originally posted by hiline
stevo let me know how the bigger intercoolers goes style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

been thinking about it for awhile now

Steve,
Add me to the list.....could be a bulk buy :!: :!: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Cheers,

[Juz]

hi everybody,
just have one question - has anybody had a significant rise in engine temp after fitting the chip? i have read of this with some aftermarket gear but not specifically bruce davis stuff.
i am quite interested in his mod for my 03 TD5 but want to make sure i am not going to get any surprises.
cheers,
Juz

[abaddonxi]

Originally posted by Juz
hi everybody,
just have one question - has anybody had a significant rise in engine temp after fitting the chip? i have read of this with some aftermarket gear but not specifically bruce davis stuff.
i am quite interested in his mod for my 03 TD5 but want to make sure i am not going to get any surprises.
cheers,
Juz

Hey Juz

Leo109 sells a kit for turbo temp guage.
http://www.thermoguard.com.au/
There are mentions of it if you search the forum.

Cheers
Simon

[Bugman]

I had my 2000 TD5 Defender done by MR Automotive at Redcliffe.

I'm very happy. The extra power is significant - I do blow more black smoke as a result but I guess that's par for the course.

Going by fuel records I've kept since (2months) I'm getting slightly better fuel economy as well. However it is tempting to lay the boot into it everywhere you go style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Bugman

[Piddler]

stevo let me know about the intercooler as well please when you get it sorted,
cost etc

[hiline]

Originally posted by Juz
hi everybody,
just have one question - has anybody had a significant rise in engine temp after fitting the chip? i have read of this with some aftermarket gear but not specifically bruce davis stuff.
i am quite interested in his mod for my 03 TD5 but want to make sure i am not going to get any surprises.
cheers,
Juz

haven't noticed it in mine style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

mine has now done 145,000k's with the chip in style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[stevo]

I fitted the intercooler myself in june just did not get arond to taking it back to bruce for a retune (going this tuesday) no increase in engine temp
that I have noticed the turbo may run hotter more power more heat.

Also for every degree in the inlet temp you get an increase of 3 degree's out the exhaust manifold,and yes the chip mod is a good one completely different vehicle to drive

[disconut]

I love the chip, but the turbo lag is still annoying.
Thinking about fitting 1 hyclone just prior to the turbo inlet to try and spool it up faster.
Any thoughts on this?

Trev.

[Slunnie]

Tombraider on here sells high capacity full aluminium intercoolers with top spec cores. I run one of his and they are really well made and fitted nicely. He charges about $1190ea + whatever it costs to freight it to you.

[hiline]

Originally posted by Slunnie
Tombraider on here sells high capacity full aluminium intercoolers with top spec cores. I run one of his and they are really well made and fitted nicely. He charges about $1190ea + whatever it costs to freight it to you.

mmmmmmmmmm not a bad price style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Piddler]

Did you set yours up yourself and get Bruce to re tune Slunnie
or ?

regards
Piddler

[hiline]

the one i have in mine you need the injector codes


so you cant do it at home

you need to write down your original injector code numbers
then unplug it and re code the new one style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif


5min tops ............vroommmmmmmmmmm your off :wink:

[Batman]

Thanks everyone. Bruce Davis Chip it is then. Looks like I better book it in next week. That intercooler idea sounds good too. More power MMMMMM......

[Juz]

145,000km sounds like a pretty good recommendation! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
thanks hiline.
cheers,
Juz

[hiline]

Originally posted by Juz
145,000km sounds like a pretty good recommendation! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
thanks hiline.
cheers,
Juz

and if you knew how i treat my car its more like 245,000k's :wink:

[Frenchie]

So can someone answer this? If you fit the larger intercooler after the chip, what tuning needs to be done?

[hiline]

Originally posted by Frenchie
So can someone answer this? If you fit the larger intercooler after the chip, what tuning needs to be done?

none that i know of

just hook it up and off you goooooooooooooooooo style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[Slunnie]

Originally posted by Piddler
Did you set yours up yourself and get Bruce to re tune Slunnie
or ?

regards
Piddler
Gday Piddler,

I ended up getting Bruce (actually Tony did the work) to do everything. He chipped the truck, then I test drove it, then they fitted the intercooler. I know with the intercooler they tried a few different boost pressures, though I'm not sure what else. They seemed happy enough to fit the intercooler.

Here are pics of the intercooler.
http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/thumbnai...ls.php?album=22 (http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=22)

[disconut]

Hi Slunnie,
Any comparison photo's of old versus new?

Does your turbo spool up any quicker with the bigger intercooler?

Cheers,

Trev.

[tombraider]

Go take a peek at Slunnies web site:

www.slunnie.com (http://www.slunnie.com)

Cheers
Mike

[Slunnie]

I've just uploaded some pics of the old intercooler, and there are already pics of the new one. The upgraded one is signiicantly bigger, roughly 2x the size developed through thickness in the core, rather than being outright just huge.
Pics are at:
http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/thumbnai...ls.php?album=22 (http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=22)

Re lag, the lag seems to be the same as OE.

[stevo]

I have had the tune up done today noticed the difference, will see how it goes on the hills when I head down the coast

[biodieselbob]

just a quick question, relating to re-chipping...

is the Bruce Davis chip the only re-chip option??

Are there other options? and what's the experience with them?

regards,

biodiesel bob..

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">tune-it also make a piggy back one.....it plugs in between the harness
and the original ecu......

it can be easily removed and all is back to standard......
but it costs a few hundred more than the bruce davis remap.....


i havent heard of anyone having one of these on a rover yet.....
i think the cost may be the biggest reason why though......</span>

[ATLandy]

G'day from Malaysia ,

Would like to know that for a remapped ECU , can a Land Rover workshop
flushes the remapping work when they plug in their diagnostic computer for uploading or tunning ?

Are there any plug in chip/unit on the market that is solely plug in , without splicing of OEM harness , so that it can be unplug for warranty work without the workshop knowing ?

Ta

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by ATLandy
G'day from Malaysia ,

Would like to know that for a remapped ECU , can a Land Rover workshop
flushes the remapping work when they plug in their diagnostic computer for uploading or tunning ?

Are there any plug in chip/unit on the market that is solely plug in , without splicing of OEM harness , so that it can be unplug for warranty work without the workshop knowing ?

Ta


[quote=zook]<span style="color:blue">tune-it also make a piggy back one.....it plugs in between the harness
and the original ecu......

it can be easily removed and all is back to standard.....</span>





<span style="color:green">here is the link to their site....</span>

http://www.tunitaustralia.com/

[tombraider]

Dont go the Tunit.. Its an inline system and belches smoke whilst being very abrupt when it cuts in.

The TD5 gets really 'jerky' when a Tunit module is used, really spoils the driving experience and isnt that refined.

Imagine a throttle surge at the worst point in the rev band, thats how Tunit performs.

However, many people can Flash the ECU for you... Do a search for TD5 ECU upgrade on google.

Cheers
Mike

[ATLandy]

Hi all ,

I have not correspond with tunit but done so with DPchip . Guess their installation would be similiar . Require to splice in to connect the harness then the module plugs into the harness . Can remove the module to return to standard .
My concern is splicing on harness will be obvious to the Land Rover workshop - should there be dispute on warranty work .

Tombraider , will google on ECU upgrade . Till then anybody have a quick answer if dealer diagnostic computer can flushes the remapping work ?

Ta

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">has anyone priced a second hand ecu.....?</span>

[Owen]

http://www.powerchipgroup.com/interact/dat...asp?pid=Lan0033 (http://www.powerchipgroup.com/interact/datasheets/datasheets_two.asp?pid=Lan0033)

Have a look at this as well.

My Brother had one fitted to his 4.0 V8 and noticed extra drivability but if he had his time again would have done a new free flowing exhaust first up as he reckons thats where he got the best gains/$$$

[Owen]

For my Td5 I am looking at this next year when the warranty runs out....

http://www.dieselgasaustralia.com.au/defau...spx?ID=Vehicles (http://www.dieselgasaustralia.com.au/default.aspx?ID=Vehicles)

[tombraider]

Why? More complexity, heavy tank has to go somewhere. 2 fuels required (pita) and for what? 30hp.....

For that price on a 300TDI go the turbo upgrade.
For a TD5 go the ECU upgrade.

My defender TD5 makes 94kw at the wheels. Thats a *lot* more than they offer and I get 11l/100km,

No weight penalty. No complexity added and single fuel.

Economy wont suffer and the diesel gas wasnt really giving an increase.

Of course the thing will go an extra 300km.... Its got 300km worth of extra fuel on board!

Cheers
Mike

[abaddonxi]

[quote=DEFENDERZOOK]<span style="color:blue">has anyone priced a second hand ecu.....?</span>

They come up on ebay.co.uk fairly often, someone was bidding for one off the forum, I think it ended up going for between 100-150 pounds
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Discovery...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Discovery-series-2-TD5-auto-engine-ECU_W0QQitemZ4590477021QQcategoryZ31348QQssPageNam eZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

80 pounds - that was td5 auto.

Cheers
Simon

[tombraider]

[quote=DEFENDERZOOK]<span style="color:blue">has anyone priced a second hand ecu.....?</span>

New ECU is $1100.00 better to do this than get one which is full of crud or stuffed. Testbook cannot reset an old ECU for a new vehicle.

As for Upgrades, Yes, your LR dealer can flash over your nice program so be sure to request they dont or your dollars are gone.

Otherwise. Pre 02 are hard programmed eg. chip resoldered in and cannot be flashed over. If you have one of these your laughing!

Cheers
Mike

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">i was just thinking of swapping ecus before sending the car to the dealer....

no chance of them stuffing up your settings then....</span>

[ATLandy]

Hi all ,

DEFENDERZOOK , good idea on swapping ECU before sending to dealer .

Did some search on the net and found that some flashing / remapping / upgrading of the ECU work can have the original file chq sum still stay the same and therefore the T4 testbook cannot detect it .

While others , like Tombraider said , the dealer can flash over your remapped work or causes ECU faults to show in diagnostic page at service time ie, too much fuel .

Ta

[George130]

Originally posted by tombraider
Why? More complexity, heavy tank has to go somewhere. 2 fuels required (pita) and for what? 30hp.....

For that price on a 300TDI go the turbo upgrade.
For a TD5 go the ECU upgrade.

My defender TD5 makes 94kw at the wheels. Thats a *lot* more than they offer and I get 11l/100km,

No weight penalty. No complexity added and single fuel.

Economy wont suffer and the diesel gas wasnt really giving an increase.

Of course the thing will go an extra 300km.... Its got 300km worth of extra fuel on board!

Cheers
Mike

I'm getting the same sort of economy from mine but if I had the money to spare would also have liked the fumigation option to increase range and reduce running costs. They estimated it would take me 100,000 kilometres to recoup the costs though.