R380 cooler

[sierrafery]

Hi all, i'm sure here's the best place to ask, i want to order this: Ashcroft Transmissions (http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/miscellaneous/r380-oil-cooler-kit/r380-oil-cooler-kit.html) they say it comes in front of the radiatior but where exactly, near the electric fan or at the bottom and will it fit behind the grill without any problem? eventually can somebody put a pic as i can see where it lives please?

[strangy]

Hi, here in Aust we scored a factory cooler which sits in front of the radiator just below the intercooler.
It mounts using a tab on the radiator on the left side and a self tapping screw into a tab on the right hand side.
Id be surprised if anyone here can provide you with a pic of an Ashcroft cooler.

[CraigE]

Hi all, i'm sure here's the best place to ask, i want to order this: Ashcroft Transmissions (http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/miscellaneous/r380-oil-cooler-kit/r380-oil-cooler-kit.html) they say it comes in front of the radiatior but where exactly, near the electric fan or at the bottom and will it fit behind the grill without any problem? eventually can somebody put a pic as i can see where it lives please?

I get Ashcroft are really good gear, but 245GBP nearly $500AUD for one? Plenty of speed shops have similar for sub $200AUD and even sub $100 or Ebay. After all its only a cooler and a matter of cutting the existing tube cooler if as on Aust cars or some piping from gearbox.

[sierrafery]

I get Ashcroft are really good gear, but 245GBP nearly $500AUD for one? Plenty of speed shops have similar for sub $200AUD and even sub $100 or Ebay. After all its only a cooler and a matter of cutting the existing tube cooler if as on Aust cars or some piping from gearbox.

Thanks for that....tell me a bit more please, i can get some oil cooler from other modell but how i make the connections to the box? off course that the oil circuit holes are blanked now but that's all i should do? connect the cooller with some pipework to them and job done, that's all? where on the gearbox casing are those plugs to be removed?

[kelvo]

Being Euro spec you will have a blank where the cooler thermostat fits.

Part '20' in the photo.

It's just a case of then getting lines made to screw into the thermostat and connect to a cooler.

If you've got an updated 'manual' intercooler a factory gearbox cooler will not fit in the factory position (Below the factory intercooler). You would need to make your own brackets and mount in the airflow. You would need to do this regardless with the Ashcroft kit.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114633&stc=1&d=1475151100

[sierrafery]

Thanks, i'll save some money on this i think:)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

This is what I put on the Auto,, 1/2 inch inlet/outlet to match the rest of the lines
I mounted it as far forward as possible to allow airflow around it.
Does the manual have an internal pump?
or does it all work by convection?
from memory around $150AU,,

[sierrafery]

It has a pump inside

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I used good quality hydraulic hose and push-on fittings,, no dramas ;)

[strangy]

I have the factory R380 thermostat housing here.
I dont know what shipping from Aust, NT, 0870 would be to you, but if you check that out, i will pack it up and send to you for whatever the shipping is.
Then just get yourself an aftermarket cooler from a local auto parts shop as others have suggested.
I reckon its the adaptor that you are being hit so hard for.

[sierrafery]

That's very kind of you, thank you... i'll think about it, anyway i'm glad i asked here cos now after i studied a bit this thing it became obvious that it's plenty of space for improvization.... my last dillema is that is the thermostat thing mandatory for some reason? can't i simply remove those blanking plugs, find some suitable fittings and connect directly with the pipes from cooler there? is there some flow control issue which i dont get? ... i've already found a cooler which seems good and IMO good price AeroLine 10 Row Alloy Oil Cooler 1/2" BSP Fast Road & Race UNIVERSAL | Oil Coolers | Engine Cooling - Zeppy.io (http://www.zeppy.io/product/gb/2/172242486265/aeroline-10-row-alloy-oil-cooler-1-2-bsp-fast-road-race-universal) and hoses + fittings are all kinds available on the market locally

[strangy]

Quite a big job without the original (or after market) thermostat housing. You could drill/tap the gearbox case but that would be best done by stripping it to keep the swarf out.
The case is ported without thread so the thermostat housing is sealed against the case with recessed o rings located in the thermostat housing.then clamped with three bolts.
I havent paid to much attention to the non cooler fitting in place of the thermostat housing, maybe you could mod that to suit.

A quick postage check from me to Romania is about $35 aud.

[kelvo]

I've just looked at the price of the thermostat housing BLOODY HELL it's not cheap is it :o

I can see why Ashcroft made their own housing now.

[rangieman]

I've just looked at the price of the thermostat housing BLOODY HELL it's not cheap is it :o

I can see why Ashcroft made their own housing now.

Yep just a idea :eek: Land Rover Parts - 18: TRANSMISSION OIL COOLER THERMOSTAT & HOSE HOUSING - R380 MANUAL GEARBOX (http://www.roverparts.com.au/inc/sdetail/14460)

[kelvo]

Yep just a idea :eek: Land Rover Parts - 18: TRANSMISSION OIL COOLER THERMOSTAT & HOSE HOUSING - R380 MANUAL GEARBOX (http://www.roverparts.com.au/inc/sdetail/14460)

That's a bargain if it's a new one, the photo would suggest it's a used part though.

This was the cheapest I could find online Your Search Results > (http://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=FTC2687&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10) :o:o:o

[rangieman]

That's a bargain if it's a new one, the photo would suggest it's a used part though.

This was the cheapest I could find online Your Search Results > (http://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=FTC2687&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10) :o:o:o

The part does look new and in the ad The gear box is used there is no mention of new or used so my assumption would say it`s new ;)
But in saying just about all r380 gearbox`s here have one so im guessing with dead gear box`s there should a few kicking around:cool:
Funny how you post a UK site and it would be tripple the price than here in OZ , Just goes to show it is not always cheaper from over sea`s.

[sierrafery]

A quick postage check from me to Romania is about $35 aud.
I've sent you a PM, much obliged

[CraigE]

If it does not have the pump housing on your gearbox, may be a bit more involved. Then maybe the Ashcroft is worthwhile if it comes with all that. Have you had a look at your box to sse if there is a pump on the side or even a cover plate? If not going to be much harder. I know mine as standard has the pump and a basic pipe cooler. I am looking at cutting the pipes and fitting a cooler at some point.
Cheers
Craig

Thanks for that....tell me a bit more please, i can get some oil cooler from other modell but how i make the connections to the box? off course that the oil circuit holes are blanked now but that's all i should do? connect the cooller with some pipework to them and job done, that's all? where on the gearbox casing are those plugs to be removed?

[strangy]

If it does not have the pump housing on your gearbox, may be a bit more involved. Then maybe the Ashcroft is worthwhile if it comes with all that. Have you had a look at your box to sse if there is a pump on the side or even a cover plate? If not going to be much harder. I know mine as standard has the pump and a basic pipe cooler. I am looking at cutting the pipes and fitting a cooler at some point. Cheers Craig
All R380 have a pump. It's located in the rear of the alloy casing. It's just LR didn't feel Europe need the cooler as well so they just fitted a "bypass" fitting which connects the two oil port galleries ( inlet & outlet)

[sierrafery]

I made some research and it seems it's doable quite cheap if you know a handy machinist :cool: Land Rover Owner • View topic - Gearbox Rebuilds? (http://forum.lro.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=73041#p655122) , it seems that i'll be resolved by courtesy of @strangy but i'm thinking that if i wasnt so lucky maybe some kind of rub nuts like these M3 M4 M5 M6 M8 M10 M12 RUBBER RUB NUT WELL NUT - THREADED BRASS INSERT RIVET NUT | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M3-M4-M5-M6-M8-M10-M12-RUBBER-RUB-NUT-WELL-NUT-THREADED-BRASS-INSERT-RIVET-NUT-/201499994097) or other kind of threaded metal inserts or rivnuts in those oil ports would not do the job as well ... anyway i'm glad i asked before i spent that money cos seeing now what's about IMO that kit from ashcroft is too expensive