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austastar
4th October 2016, 09:46 AM
Hi,
I need to move mine from the spotlight mount on the ARB bullbar, as I bought a pair of lights.

What other positions have people used?

Somewhere on a forum I saw a smaller version of the control box that was a single relay. Nodoubt it must have been dp/dt or similar rather than the multi relays in the bigger control box. Its smaller size would fit more places.

Over to the forum wisdom.

Cheers

edit: winch control relay box in the header.............Grrr Flippin Phones!

MarkM
4th October 2016, 10:31 AM
I put a smaller waterproof unit (Albright solenoid) inside the "bumper bar" void, outboard from the drivers side chassis rail.

This arrangement provides reasonable physical protection, and keeps the wiring short for volt drop. I think it gives the front a fairly clean appearance.

Tombie
4th October 2016, 01:07 PM
Great location...

Where's the conduit [emoji12]

County4.4
4th October 2016, 01:22 PM
I put my single relay behind the drivers side headlight. Minimal voltage drop. Just pulled out the head light to instal.was quick and easy.

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JoeFriend
4th October 2016, 05:00 PM
Mine is up under the guard top, drivers side. One day I will get around to putting a lock and hinge on the black plastic cover so I can access the isolator mounted there and install an air line there as well while at it.

austastar
4th October 2016, 05:38 PM
Hi,
Some good info being posted, thanks.
I've ordered one of those smaller relays that are waterproof and rated at 500A. It will be easier to fit than the original box.
Next thing is to explore for where I want it.

Cheers

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lump_a_charcoal
7th October 2016, 02:51 PM
Mine is up under the guard top, drivers side. One day I will get around to putting a lock and hinge on the black plastic cover so I can access the isolator mounted there and install an air line there as well while at it.

Get a fender locker from GMB.

Look at my build thread...

JoeFriend
7th October 2016, 03:05 PM
Get a fender locker from GMB.

Look at my build thread...
For some reason I generally feel compelled to make my own things, even though there is a perfectly fine one you can buy off the shelf.

Tombie
7th October 2016, 06:28 PM
For some reason I generally feel compelled to make my own things, even though there is a perfectly fine one you can buy off the shelf.



Nothing wrong with that! Built not bought. [emoji41]

austastar
25th October 2016, 02:17 PM
Hi,
The relay arrived, looks a nice unit and it will fit where I want under the RH guard.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/151.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/152.jpg

The supplied wiring diagram is confusing, as I don't have a Warn Control Box, and surely you wouldn't run 2 control boxes in line with each other.

I found another diagram on line which seems to look like what I want to do.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/153.jpg

It looks to be the same relay. Is this how others have wired them?

Cheers

Edit: Now I'm really foxed.

I connected 12V across the low amp pins and got the following.

Pin3 Neg, Pin2 Pos and the + connects to F2

Pin3 Neg, Pin1 Pos and the + connects to F1

A doesn't seem to connect to anything at all.

Have I got the wrong relay???

Cheers

strangy
25th October 2016, 07:50 PM
Try this.

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I don't think the second diagram of yours is correct.

Wire colour isnt that important, however, centre terminal (light duty) should be earth.
The warn diagram doesn't suggest 2 control boxes, rather an in cab isolation (via earth)switch for the solenoid.

austastar
25th October 2016, 08:25 PM
Hi, thanks for that.
It is similar to what I have, but what is puzzling me is how it switches.

e.g. I know by the remote socket picks up 12V+ from the Red Connector and powers either of 2 solenoids back down either the blue or yellow wires to the black earth.

I know that the heavy duty current is then directed from the Red Connector to Blue F2 on the motor, or Yellow F1 on the motor. I did that by bench testing.

What has me foxed is how/what/why does the White Connector (A on the motor) connect to.
So far I can't measure any connection to any of the other 3 heavy duty connectors.

Perhaps I need to connect 12V to the Red Connector which may trigger something else that I have missed by just putting 12V across the light terminals.

Cheers

strangy
25th October 2016, 08:35 PM
Think of A as "armature/active" and F1 as "Field1" and F2 as "Field 2"
When you press the "winch in" button you connect 12v to A and F1 = rotation direction
Likewise when you presss "winch out" you connect 12v to A and F2 = opposite rotation diection

austastar
25th October 2016, 08:51 PM
Hi,
Thanks, I'll do some more testing.

At the moment I am not getting anything connecting to A.

There must be a trigger from the Red Connection that I haven't connected at all as yet.

Cheers

roverrescue
25th October 2016, 09:04 PM
Auststar
The white wire goes from solenoid to armature
To power motor in CW direction
-ve to case
+ve to one field winding
Solenoid links other field & armature

To run motor CCW
Reverse the polarity of field winding and armature linked to other field

The magic of the solenoid is that it links the white wire between armature and appropriate field
Only when field windings is powered appropriately

So test of solenoid white should be zero resistance with say F2 when F1 is +ve

S

roverrescue
25th October 2016, 09:10 PM
Do a you tube search on testing 12v winch motor
Some buggalugs will show how motor is powered up
Might make sense of what the solenoid is doing

S