Track trailer canvas

[rar110]

Does anyone know where I can get a canvas?

Thanks

[Mick_Marsh]

Hmmmm........

I have a spare I have promised to a friend who has organised some No5 and workshop tarps to be made in the past. I'll have a chat with him.

[mick88]

I think Bartlett's in Ballarat have made them before.
Try them.


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Cheers, Mick.

[Mick_Marsh]

I think Bartlett's in Ballarat have made them before.
Try them.


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Cheers, Mick.
Well, that is where my spare will be going.

[Trout]

Let us know if you succeed in getting one. I was thinking about getting a spare for mine.

[Mick_Marsh]

I'll sound them out for a group buy. Keep your eye on the markets section.

[Homestar]

Bartletts certainly can and do do them. They can do pretty much anything like that from the small to the ridiculously large. Had the pleasure of a guided tour of the facility just a couple of weeks ago.

I'll be getting their custom decision to make a new tilt for the 101 when I do the camping body on it, so I can get a factory looking canvas with a few extras in it. :)

[LandroverScott]

Hi Guys

Yes a group buy is the go, then they can be all manufactured in one go.

What sort of number should we get done?

Regards
Scott

[rar110]

I'm interested.

[Trout]

I am keen subject to the price not being too scary.

[mick88]

I made an enquiry at Bartlett's about twelve months back regarding a No. 5 canvas and it was $320 which I thought was reasonable.


Cheers, Mick.

[Trout]

I made an enquiry at Bartlett's about twelve months back regarding a No. 5 canvas and it was $320 which I thought was reasonable.


Cheers, Mick.

Sounds pretty good to me.

Rod

[rar110]

Any update?

[Mick_Marsh]

Scott has the canvas.
I think he is time poor at the moment but I'm sure he will be posting something in group buys soon.

[LandroverScott]

Scott has the canvas.
I think he is time poor at the moment but I'm sure he will be posting something in group buys soon.

Yep 110% correct!

It's going to happen just need firm numbers but first I'll get a cost price.

Will get that early next week

Cheers
Scott

[rar110]

Yep 110% correct!



It's going to happen just need firm numbers but first I'll get a cost price.



Will get that early next week



Cheers

Scott



Thanks, still interested.

[100 td]

Any update on this, I may be interested............

[Mick_Marsh]

No update as yet.

[rar110]

Any idea about price?

[Mick_Marsh]

Scott has a tub, hoops and canvas.
I would guess he has been busy leading up to christmas and may still be on holidays.
I'll give him a call and see if I can get a little momentum happening.

[100 td]

No panic for me, I'm not sure about one as yet as I may want something higher than the existing frame, but interested just the same. Are than any good detailed pics out the of an existing canvas set up on the trailer to look at?

[Mick_Marsh]

No panic for me, I'm not sure about one as yet as I may want something higher than the existing frame, but interested just the same. Are than any good detailed pics out the of an existing canvas set up on the trailer to look at?
Can be. Are you after anything in particular?

[100 td]

Thanks for the pics, I've been thinking of lifting or changing the frame to get larger covered space, for higher things in the trailer. Not sure yet of what I will do.

[LandroverScott]

Yep I'm back on line after extremely busy lead up to Christmas.

Ok how many are needed then I can sort out some pricing

Cheers
Scott

[Mick_Marsh]

I'm counting possibly four or five.
Definitely one for me.

[rar110]

One for me.

[Trout]

I am keen

[LandroverScott]

OK, I've got 4 (including me) so far, I'll work on getting 6 made, will sort it out Monday and let you know pricing

The old one Mick gave me fits really well so wil make a good template to copy off

[100 td]

Hi Scott, not sure I'm reading this correctly, do you already have the canvas for these, are you the maker?
I don't want to upset the apple cart here but there is a post on remlr from an old canvas maker in Melbourne who has templates of military canvases from about 1968 or something, he doesn't have one for this trailer, but has said he can make them if he gets a couple of photos and some trailer measurements. He can get special fabric runs made of the old army canvas if there is enough quantity, or supply something cheaper, but very similar. Is it worth getting a second price?
Note, if you have the canvas and want to use it up then go with what you are organising. If I get one, I would want to go non-OEM, and have a vertical zip in the centre rear panel as well as an extra eyelet at the bottom of each corner where the zip is. Is this a possibility? $? I'm still debating........

[LandroverScott]

Hi Scott, not sure I'm reading this correctly, do you already have the canvas for these, are you the maker?
I don't want to upset the apple cart here but there is a post on remlr from an old canvas maker in Melbourne who has templates of military canvases from about 1968 or something, he doesn't have one for this trailer, but has said he can make them if he gets a couple of photos and some trailer measurements. He can get special fabric runs made of the old army canvas if there is enough quantity, or supply something cheaper, but very similar. Is it worth getting a second price?
Note, if you have the canvas and want to use it up then go with what you are organising. If I get one, I would want to go non-OEM, and have a vertical zip in the centre rear panel as well as an extra eyelet at the bottom of each corner where the zip is. Is this a possibility? $? I'm still debating........

Hi,

To put it very simply my company is OEM for many defence canvas products.

I'm just helping out a few people who want a track trailer canopy as I'm getting one made for me and Mick.

I don't know the guy in Melbourne but why get old fashioned canvas run when track trailer was poly cotton originally as it was only the 90s.

You'd be better getting one of these then getting it altered by a local canvas shop when fitted to your trailer.

Hope that helps.
Regards

[Mick_Marsh]

Hi Scott, not sure I'm reading this correctly, do you already have the canvas for these, are you the maker?
I don't want to upset the apple cart here but there is a post on remlr from an old canvas maker in Melbourne who has templates of military canvases from about 1968 or something, he doesn't have one for this trailer, but has said he can make them if he gets a couple of photos and some trailer measurements. He can get special fabric runs made of the old army canvas if there is enough quantity, or supply something cheaper, but very similar. Is it worth getting a second price?
Note, if you have the canvas and want to use it up then go with what you are organising. If I get one, I would want to go non-OEM, and have a vertical zip in the centre rear panel as well as an extra eyelet at the bottom of each corner where the zip is. Is this a possibility? $? I'm still debating........
Yes. Allen, aka Restless Rover.
You got a series or an Inter, he's the one to go to. I got my Inter tarp from him and am about to order a 2a tilt.
Scott has my tarp for the Track. He has access to the canvas and people with the skills.
Yep, let's not upset the apple cart. I'd be most upset if my Track tarp got sent interstate. I lent my 101 jack handle and starting handle to someone in Victoria to copy and haven't heard about them for a year now. I'm a little upset about that. They're hard to come by.

[100 td]

there is a post on remlr from an old canvas maker in Melbourne who has templates of military canvases

I'd be most upset if my Track tarp got sent interstate.
Sorry Mick, didn't realise you guys had seceeded! :)

[100 td]

You'd be better getting one of these then getting it altered by a local canvas shop when fitted to your trailer.

Hope that helps.
Regards
Hi Scott, so no chance of the zip/eylets being installed at manufacture?

[Mick_Marsh]

Sorry Mick, didn't realise you guys had seceeded! :)
Sorry. I thought you were talking about Allen. He is in Queensland.
Who is the fellow you are talking about?

Yeah, sometimes I get the feeling we have seceded. I was traveling back to Victoria last night and was stopped by border control. It appears Digger has put a bolo out on me.

[100 td]

Who is the fellow you are talking about?

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The post has a Mick Marsh in it which I presume is you?
Also a Scott who said for this guy to organise canvas, so possibly the same Scott FFRMAN?
It appears I may have read his post incorrectly about patterns he has as well, he says he can still make most of their products to the Aust Military specs.
Also I think I found "Allen" this morning, not realising it was who you were talking about as his site is more about Mongolian travel!
Warren

[100 td]

AULRO is changing the link above? Just comes back to this page or blank page?

[Mick_Marsh]

http://www.remlr.com/forum/index.php'topic=4040.15 (http://remlr.com/forum/index.php'topic=4040.15)
The post has a Mick Marsh in it which I presume is you?
Also a Scott who said for this guy to organise canvas, so possibly the same Scott FFRMAN?
It appears I may have read his post incorrectly about patterns he has as well, he says he can still make most of their products to the Aust Military specs.
Also I think I found "Allen" this morning, not realising it was who you were talking about as his site is more about Mongolian travel!
Warren
Yep, now we're on the same page.
Yep, Allen does do a lot of traveling. I'd say that would be his site. Contact him through the email address on REMLR though, if you want some of his products.

[Mick_Marsh]

AULRO is changing the link above? Just comes back to this page or blank page?
Works for me. Might be more of those Google issues.

[LandroverScott]

Hi Scott, so no chance of the zip/eylets being installed at manufacture?


Hi, yes it's possible as lone as it's clearly specified it should be right.

Cheers

[LandroverScott]

Ok so they will be $330 incl GST delivered via Aust post parcel bag.

Can you please confirm and PM me you details. When done I will call for cc number

Cheers.
Scott

[100 td]

I'm still interested, still trying to work the zip bit out to see if i can make it functional for me........found these pics on the track trailer website, so I expect this is exactly what you will be making?
http://tracktrailer.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Little-MIL-3.jpg
http://tracktrailer.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Little-MIL-2.jpg
http://tracktrailer.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Little-MIL-4.jpg

[rar110]

Ta Scott. PM sent.

Interesting Jerry/wheel carrier 100td.

[100 td]

Same one as on the Track Eagle, and Tvans got them as well, the wheel frame is hinged at the draw bar and swings out of the way for jerry/gas bottle access. I have one on an Eagle so could post some pics if need be, probably some on the web.
Edit: Just had a look at the pic, you can see the big hinge at the 2 points on the draw bar.
Also the tvan may not have got the swing away, saw one in the factory ~15 years ago, but don't recall, may have only been early ones. Eagles definitely have them.

[100 td]

rar110,
Can take pics if you want, one for sale here
eagle spare wheel carrier (http://www.tracktrailerforums.com/index.php'topic=2486.msg21007#msg21007)

[rar110]

Ta. I didn't know there was a track trailer forum.

[100 td]

Check out this one, I contacted the writer years ago, I thought he was going to send some drawings but it didn't happen, and I haven't followed it up since. I would like the spare mount underneath. The other mods are good too.
Edit: And a pic of an eagle with wheel carrier and jerry container!
My ex RAAF Tactical Trailer camper build (http://www.tracktrailerforums.com/index.php'topic=198.0)

[Trout]

100 td some interesting differences with my trailer besides the wheel carrier.

My support frame for the canvas has a horizontal bar across the back just above the tailgate. This bar supports/connects to a vertical section in the centre that then bends 90 degrees forward to become the canvass ridge pole.

Also my canvas tie downs along the sides and back are a u shaped wire section welded to the trailer sides rather than a pop riveted hook. Canvass looks pretty much the same as my original one though.

In theory I like your idea of having zipper to make access a bit easier to things in the back of the trailer but I don't see how you could make it work. You would have very little room to get things in and out. Especially on mine with the vertical pole and cross bar.

[rar110]

Thanks again 100td.

I knew Pete was transforming his track into a camper. I didn't know he'd gone that far. I have a 6x6 wheel carrier and will do something similar to Pete underneath in front of the wheels. I want to put a storage box in place of the wheel carrier.

[100 td]

I can't even remember which version of the poles I have! I have never used them and they must be in the shed somewhere, but haven't seen them for a looong time!
Come to think of it mine may be like yours? The reason I want something different is for easier access without lifting the sides up and pushing the top back, especially in the rain. I recall now there are some support pole pictures on this forum or the Remlr forum, with dimensions.
I think the pictured design above would suit me better, may have to look into that! As noted previously I have also considered making a frame up a lot higher with corner bars to have better usable space in the trailer.

[rar110]

My frame is nothing like the above. There is a single horizontal rib/hoop running front to back which supports the apex of the canvas. The rib/hoop curves down at the front where it is mounted into the middle of the front of the tub. The rib/hoop curves down at the back and sits on a lateral horizontal bar that sits above the tailgate.

[Trout]

I currently have a box on the drawer bar. It holds my engel on one side on a fridge slide and there is storage space on the other side. The spare wheel is mounted vertically on the front of the box. One day I will put the spare under the front of the trailer as it's current location is not ideal. I can open the rear door of the defender fully mostly but if the trailer is slopping up or turned hard right I can't always open the door properly. I have a water tank under the front which I will need to move to the back. If you get psimpsons plans for the wheeel mount and jerry holders I would love a copy too.

I also hope to get a jackoff storage box to sit in the trailer tub. Like a ute body with lift up doors shelving etc. I will put my rooftop tent on top. I think this will be the perfect camping setup for me.

[100 td]

I'm guessing the pictured units were original test units, and a few changes happened (Lunette ring, U hooks, frame bar change, wheel carrier/jerry holder removal. Remember they are trying to sell, so offer what they can! Mine also has the spot welded U hooks, I can't see my ARN number, blue service/sale sticker is faded too much, I should try some digital enhancement! I have the koni shock numbers written down somewhere, they are adjustable. IIRC the axle size on the tactical is a bigger diameter than on the Eagle, yet the tactical is lower gross weight rated, but of course, everything military has lots in reserve.

[100 td]

I last contacted Pete Simpson in 2013! I (or maybe rar110) will have to see if I can chase him up on the track forum and pry those cad drawings from him!

[100 td]

Got onto Pete, he doesn't want his cad files to go out, he may make some kits up of jerry holders, spare wheel carrier etc., as he has done before, and sell them on. I said I would ask the question here to see how much interest and get back to him at some point and he could then chase up some prices.

[LandroverScott]

Hi, yes it's possible as lone as it's clearly specified it should be right.

Cheers

So 100 td are you after one?

[100 td]

Hi Scott,
Sorry, have been tied up on other things and haven't been back on, so can I draw a sketch for you to consider mods?
Also, do you believe the shape/finish/seams of the one pictured above are the same as what you have, or is it's seams/shape different to suit the other bars?
I'm also trying to work out the flip of the flap so it does flip! The bottom corner may be a problem without change.

[100 td]

I think I will be stuffing you around too much to get a modified one, as not having seen one on, and working with one, I can't quite envisage how it will work with just a zip down the guts. Something would need to be done on the corners so you can throw the whole flap on the roof out of the way, but so the main canopy still keeps it support and shape. So at this stage I think it's best to say no, unfortunately, so you aren't stuffed around.
I think modified bars like pictured on the rear would work well, perhaps with internal ties or velcro straps to tie to the frame, then modified rear with zip so the flaps can be thrown back while the main canvas stays in place. This would also mean fixing the side corners over those pins with little centre brass flat catches or similar.

So I sincerely apologise if I have held up the precedings or artificially inflated numbers unnecessarily.
If you do make any extra's in the run, be sure to let me know in case I change my mind for some reason or another down the track.

[rar110]

What about a zip at the rear, parallel to one of the triangle tops. You could then unzip, and throw the rear panel on the roof, basically hinging on the opposite top side of the triangle.

I wouldn't mind this mod for my canvas. Is that possible? It would make rear access a bit easier.

[rar110]

I realise it's not perfect as there is still a vertical poll in the middle.

[100 td]

Looking at the pics the canvas sits so much better with the other frame, as it is supported each end full length and doesn't slump, this would be far preferable (to me) so I think I will eventually change my frame. Then the end canvas could be changed for full access. Alternatively a higher frame and zip similar to the haulmarks may be better.

[rar110]

How's this going Scott?

[LandroverScott]

Ok, sorry for the delay but these canopies are now completed.

Can you call me at work (Bartlett manufacturing) on 03 53383103 ask for me (about the trailer canopies for sale) and I'll grab your CC details and address details

regards
Scott

[rar110]

Ok, sorry for the delay but these canopies are now completed.

Can you call me at work (Bartlett manufacturing) on 03 53383103 ask for me (about the trailer canopies for sale) and I'll grab your CC details and address details

regards
Scott

Thanks Scott. Ordered mine with Scott today.

[rar110]

A parcel arrived today. Thanks Scott. I'll try to fit tomorrow. [emoji106]

[LandroverScott]

I have ONE more only if anyone wants one for their Track trailer

cheers
Scott

[LandroverScott]

[QUOTE=LandroverScott;2668408]I have ONE more only if anyone wants one for their Track trailer

cheers
Scott[/QUOTE

Still got one left

[LandroverScott]

bump

[100 td]

My trailer is regrettably coming/up for sale, I will notify prospective purchasers that you have a canvas for sale.