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laney
10th October 2016, 08:31 AM
Hi all just have a question about turbo blankets I was wondering if any one has one on a td5. I am wanting to reduce heat under the bonnet I was wondering if the temperature under the bonnet has reduced and are there any unwanted side effects to this blanket thanks.:D

PhilipA
10th October 2016, 09:49 AM
I have recently fitted one for the purpose of increasing transient performance more than heat reduction. ( See University of Austin study)

My observations are that they certainly decrease underbonnet heat as I was able to comfortably touch my heat shield after 2 hours. However the heat shield still gets quite hot above the exhaust manifold even though I have mine ceramic coated in and out.

Probably wrapping the down pipe from the turbo would also help, but IMHO you don't need heat in the exhaust from a performance standpoint ,as the quicker the heat is dissipated the less back pressure , due to the exhaust gas volume decreasing as the temperature decreases.

On the negative side, I found quite a few reviews of ebay blankets that suggest that they don't last and the stitching fails.

Also the smallest you can get is for a T25 and you have to cut a bit away to clear the wastegate on a GT20.

Regards Philip A

laney
10th October 2016, 03:28 PM
Thanks

sierrafery
10th October 2016, 04:59 PM
I have a titanium blanket on mine and my review is 100% positive.

justinc
10th October 2016, 07:16 PM
I have a titanium blanket on mine and my review is 100% positive.

Link / pics please???

sierrafery
12th October 2016, 05:44 AM
When i ordered mine from china was very similar with this T3 Titanium Turbo Blanket Heat Shield Barrier Turbo Charger Cover Wrap 2016 High | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/152183151868?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) then it wasnt named T3 and the T20 was listed together with the rest as being compatible.... i didnt have to cut anything, i was able to adjust it from it's spring to not disturb the wastegate rod

onebob
12th October 2016, 07:53 PM
When i ordered mine from china was very similar with this T3 Titanium Turbo Blanket Heat Shield Barrier Turbo Charger Cover Wrap 2016 High | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/152183151868?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) then it wasnt named T3 and the T20 was listed together with the rest as being compatible.... i didnt have to cut anything, i was able to adjust it from it's spring to not disturb the wastegate rod


Hmmmph! - doesn't post to Australia :mad:

strangy
12th October 2016, 08:25 PM
Hmmmph! - doesn't post to Australia :mad:

Here ya go.
T3 T28 GT25 GT35 Titanium Turbo Turbocharger Heat Shield Blanket Cover Wrap NEW | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/T3-T28-GT25-GT35-Titanium-Turbo-Turbocharger-Heat-Shield-Blanket-Cover-Wrap-new-/152215573045?hash=item2370c15235:g:5OkAAOSwZVlXu-Oc)

clintooo
13th October 2016, 01:10 PM
I bought mine from here.

T3 BLACK UNDER & OUT LAVA TURBO BLANKET & 5CM X 5M BLACK LAVA HEAT WRAP | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262212704347?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

A bit more expensive, but the last 3 purchases from china, I had 2 take over a month and 1 never arrive. So I bought it from Aust. It was sent that day and arrived within 5 days of order.

Quality wise, it looks ok. Well sewn together. I haven't installed it yet though. Not sure of which way to mount it around the modulator. Also I was going to do the exhaust wrap at the same time and thought I would wait until I do an oil change and centrifugal filter change.

Also it only came with 5 cable ties. Which were a bit too short to do the exhaust (150mm long). But Bunnings sell stainless steel ones for I think $50 for a packet of 10 at 350mm (I think).

Can someone post up a pic of how they mounted the cover please.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/519.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/clintblay/media/IMG_2821_zpszcnfhfa4.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/520.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/clintblay/media/IMG_2818_zpstxzy1hoc.jpg.html)

laney
15th October 2016, 04:47 AM
Does the extra heat trapped in the turbo burn oil or crack turbo housing .

vnx205
15th October 2016, 07:25 AM
Do any vehicle manufacturers have them as a standard fitting? If not, why not?

rangieman
15th October 2016, 07:41 AM
Do any vehicle manufacturers have them as a standard fitting? If not, why not?

The simple answer is bean counter`s:cool:
Yep they make a car and then they call in the bean counter`s to cut cost`s to increase profit so something like a blanket is never going to happen;)
Well not to your run of the mill chook chaser.

vnx205
15th October 2016, 08:45 AM
I thought about the possibility of cost cutting, but when I saw how little they cost to buy and then thought about how much they would cost to make, I wasn't so sure.

I can think of other items that are fitted that would probably cost about the same that serve no useful purpose, that some people never use and others even remove.

That made me wonder if in spite of the benefits, there might be some disadvantages.

Surely cost isn't a consideration on some of the high end vehicles. The items on some of them, like titanium gear knobs cost a lot to make and aren't any better than a plastic or wooden one. :)

PhilipA
15th October 2016, 09:08 AM
About why they are not used by manufacturers.

Manufacturers have to certify their emissions for 100KK without any service.
This is why platinum spark plugs were invented.

No manufacturer uses glass pack mufflers AFAIK also because sound readings are regulated and glass pack mufflers degrade over time.

Does that mean that nobody uses glass pack mufflers?

Similarly I think that the possibility of turbo blankets falling apart in say 3-4 years would preclude them being used by manufacturers but be acceptable to enthusiasts. If a manufacturer used a turbo blanket to tune for emissions and they fell apart , then this could cause an emissions failure and a recall.
Similarly the run of the mill owner who seems to be obsessed with servicing casts would baulk at a $500 bill for a new blanket( superimposing the usual parts markup.) Look how much people whinge over the cost of GPS map updates.
Regards Philip A

rangieman
15th October 2016, 10:17 AM
I thought about the possibility of cost cutting, but when I saw how little they cost to buy and then thought about how much they would cost to make, I wasn't so sure.

I can think of other items that are fitted that would probably cost about the same that serve no useful purpose, that some people never use and others even remove.

That made me wonder if in spite of the benefits, there might be some disadvantages.

Surely cost isn't a consideration on some of the high end vehicles. The items on some of them, like titanium gear knobs cost a lot to make and aren't any better than a plastic or wooden one. :)

Mate i worked for Holden for 19 years in R&D engineering so i have a fair idea of what im on about.
Im definitely not surprised by what they skimp on and you would also be very surprised ect even plastic scrivet`s ;)

Tombie
15th October 2016, 10:47 AM
I'd suspect that coking of the oil from retained head would be a serious possibility using the blanket.

Very different in a race platform where the engine is idled correctly or the turbo thrown out and replaced..

PhilipA
15th October 2016, 04:14 PM
I'd suspect that coking of the oil from retained head would be a serious possibility using the blanket.

The Austin Texas University study found virtually no difference in oil temperature including shutdown.

it was really that excellent study that encouraged me to buy one.

Regards Philip A

Roverlord off road spares
16th October 2016, 04:02 PM
Mate i worked for Holden for 19 years in R&D engineering so i have a fair idea of what im on about.
Im definitely not surprised by what they skimp on and you would also be very surprised ect even plastic scrivet`s ;)
Wasn't there a case of an American Airline that decided to remove one Olive from their on board salads and it saved them millions of $.

Tombie
16th October 2016, 04:56 PM
Wasn't there a case of an American Airline that decided to remove one Olive from their on board salads and it saved them millions of $.



Yep. PanAm I believe

Roverlord off road spares
17th October 2016, 06:27 PM
Mate i worked for Holden for 19 years in R&D engineering so i have a fair idea of what im on about.
Im definitely not surprised by what they skimp on and you would also be very surprised ect even plastic scrivet`s ;)
Yep they also skimped on fitting Hiclones :p

rangieman
17th October 2016, 08:24 PM
Yep they also skimped on fitting Hiclones :p

And dont forget the Polariser :p Maybe some Uni can do a thesis on it to help us poor individual`s ;)

Disco Muppet
17th October 2016, 08:37 PM
If you want one, use it.
If it does something bad, stop using it.
If you don't want one, don't use it.
If you use a turbo blanket, things will happen. Maybe good things. Maybe bad things. Maybe totally insignificant things.
There you go, that's my thesis.
Dr Muppet :p

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incisor
17th October 2016, 09:15 PM
I'd suspect that coking of the oil from retained head would be a serious possibility using the blanket.

certainly wasn't my experience...

and i can't imagine any modern oil having the issue...

rangieman
18th October 2016, 03:12 AM
If you want one, use it.
If it does something bad, stop using it.
If you don't want one, don't use it.
If you use a turbo blanket, things will happen. Maybe good things. Maybe bad things. Maybe totally insignificant things.
There you go, that's my thesis.
Dr Muppet :p

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Well done mate:tease:

vnx205
18th October 2016, 06:25 AM
If you want one, use it.
If it does something bad, stop using it.
If you don't want one, don't use it.
If you use a turbo blanket, things will happen. Maybe good things. Maybe bad things. Maybe totally insignificant things.
There you go, that's my thesis.
Dr Muppet :p

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Does your thesis also apply to Hiclones, flux capacitors, polarisers, electronic rust prevention and magic crystals? :)

Tombie
18th October 2016, 07:22 AM
certainly wasn't my experience...

and i can't imagine any modern oil having the issue...



That's good to hear...

Roverlord off road spares
18th October 2016, 05:56 PM
And dont forget the Polariser :p Maybe some Uni can do a thesis on it to help us poor individual`s ;)
Why? most of us don't have idol time to read theses;) besides, another uni later on comes along and rebuts the findings anyway.:p

It could also be a placebo?

isuzurover
18th October 2016, 11:07 PM
Why? most of us don't have idol time to read theses;) besides, another uni later on comes along and rebuts the findings anyway.:p

It could also be a placebo?

You sound like the ideal customer for some slick50, a K&N air cleaner and an onboard "HHO" generator....

Roverlord off road spares
19th October 2016, 09:07 PM
Does your thesis also apply to Hiclones, flux capacitors, polarisers, electronic rust prevention and magic crystals? :)
Don't forget the trouble of buying a particular viscosity of oil and then changing the viscosity with a bottle of Morleys oil treatment.

Roverlord off road spares
19th October 2016, 09:08 PM
You sound like the ideal customer for some slick50, a K&N air cleaner and an onboard "HHO" generator....
SHHHHH! Don't knock those K&N cleaners, MAF sales are good for us:D

Fluids
20th October 2016, 04:59 PM
How much for a HHO kit Mario ?

:p

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Tombie
20th October 2016, 05:28 PM
How much for a HHO kit Mario ?

:p

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He no longer sells the basic one..

He now has the HHO-3000. With triple hiclonic action. Polarised rare earth unobtainium cells align the gases for optimum combustion whilst the polytetraflouroethylene additives slicken the tranfobultor conduits to enable better transfiguration of the electrolytes.

All yours for only $5000.00

*user experiences may vary

Disco Muppet
20th October 2016, 05:49 PM
Does it come with a free turboencapsulator?

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Tombie
20th October 2016, 06:20 PM
Does it come with a free turboencapsulator?

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Even better - comes with TurboencapsulatorV3 - with extra BTU conversion.

Roverlord off road spares
21st October 2016, 11:29 AM
How much for a HHO kit Mario ?

:p

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Are you paying Cash?
or on finance?:D

Fluids
21st October 2016, 05:31 PM
Left arm and a 1st born ? :p

.. Though not necessarily mine

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sierrafery
31st October 2016, 10:27 PM
When i ordered mine from china was very similar with this T3 Titanium Turbo Blanket Heat Shield Barrier Turbo Charger Cover Wrap 2016 High | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/152183151868?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) then it wasnt named T3 and the T20 was listed together with the rest as being compatible.... i didnt have to cut anything, i was able to adjust it from it's spring to not disturb the wastegate rod
I have to correct myself on this cos this setup prooved itself to not be the best, the rod can move but i thing the blanket above it disturbs it though cos i observed some strange behaviour in the MAP reading yesterday when my EGT gauge started to fail even though i didnt notice it while driving...so i presumed that the rod is disturbed a bit and made a cut in the blanket(based on Philip A's idea) then clipped the sides together with clipper, IMO that's the best way for Td5