Brock Telemovie

[LandyAndy]

Anybody watch it?????
I'm a Ford fan.
All I can say is what a load of crap.
TOTAL INSULT TO PETER PERFECT:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

Missed it..... sounds like I didn't miss much then.... I thought it may be OK..:(.

[Ean Austral]

Sadly he's not around to defend himself so guess we will never know 100%.


I learnt a few things from it , I always assumed Brock and Moffett were arch enemies but not so according to the show.


I also never knew he fell out with Holden so bad and even raced a BMW.


It wasn't the most flattering of shows that's for sure.


Cheer Ean

[pop058]

Sadly he's not around to defend himself so guess we will never know 100%.


I learnt a few things from it , I always assumed Brock and Moffett were arch enemies but not so according to the show.


I also never knew he fell out with Holden so bad and even raced a BMW.


It wasn't the most flattering of shows that's for sure.


Cheer Ean



spent a few races in a Ford as well :D

[Ean Austral]

spent a few races in a Ford as well :D


Was it a Sierra ?

I did hear someone say tat years ago and thought they were having a lend, maybe they weren't.


Cheers Ean

[pop058]

Anybody watch it?????
I'm a Ford fan.

Me too

All I can say is what a load of crap.
TOTAL INSULT TO PETER PERFECT:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Andrew

It was a drama not a doco so a bit of tongue in cheek stuff.

What parts did you consider were crap and insulting Andy ??

[pop058]

Was it a Sierra ?

I did hear someone say tat years ago and thought they were having a lend, maybe they weren't.


Cheers Ean

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[LandyAndy]

They had the horrific crash,well just before it happened from the dash cam.It was the tackiest end to a tacky show,it didn't need to be shown.
The day Brock died I was building 4x4 tracks in our gravel pit with my best mate Fat Baz.When we heard of the accident we retired to my shed and drank lots of homebrew together.
SADLY,Fat Baz and his good lady got incinerated in a horrific crash not much futher in time.
It wasn't a nice way to remember the whole period of time:(:(:(:(:(
Andrew

[Ean Austral]

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According to the movie , brocks old man would not have been impressed with him being in a Ford.

Cheers Ean

[Gordie]

I didn't think it was that well made, and I didn't watch it all, I turned off the tv before the final crash...obviously it wasn't going to be a happy ending, and I didn't want to see that. Some people will be upset that a great racing driver was shown in a bad light at times...but I don't mind that, we are all human and far from perfect. He had his faults, but it doesn't diminish from what he achieved as a racing driver.

[loanrangie]

I didn't watch it and i haven't heard 1 good review from those that did.

[Pickles2]

Wifey & I knew Brock for over 30 yrs, we've had a few of his cars, knew him socially, been to his house etc. So, We knew him as well as most.He was pretty special,...if He was in a room, you'd know he was there.
Besides Holdens, cars I remember that He raced were: Peugot 405M16, Volvo 850, Ford Sierra, BMW CSL & M3, Vauxhall, Chev Monza, Porsche (Lemans), and there's probably others!
"Brock & Moffat?...Until 1986 when Moff joined Peter's Holden Dealer Team, there was no frienship, but there was certainly mutual respect, with some ultra close racing,...but they never put each other off. After Moff joined HDT, & particularly after they both retired from racing they did become very firm friends.
"The Movie"?...What can I say?...How do you put a man's life of 60 yrs, especially someone like Peter, into a film of 3 hr(net of ads), & try to accurately portray his life, especially such an event filled & tumultuous life as his?....Simple answer?....You can't.
Those that knew Brock as a racedriver, crowd favourite etc, seen him on TV etc, would probably think it was a good story. But for those that were actually a PART of that story,..those actually affected by these events,..wife, business partner, family,....who were involved, got affected/hurt in various ways going through business failures, divorce, family etc,.....they would all have differing views, and each of those views from that person's perspective, would probably be correct.
Brock was, under the skin, a complex person, and He led a complex life, He knew He wasn't "Peter Perfect", and he diliked that description intensely.
My opinion?...It could've been better.
Pickles.

[Walruslike]

Hi Pickles

I respected and was amazed by his driving skill as I watched him on tv for years doing a fantastic job.

I have no wish to upset you, and so please feel free to ignore this question....

I was disappointed when he advocated a magic magnetic something or other for fuel. Do you know the story of that? Was he fooled by someone else, or was he trying to do a shonky? Or were all involved simply mistaken? My guess is that he was simply mistaken or fooled because I'd hate to think he was shonky.

[Pickles2]

Hi Pickles

I respected and was amazed by his driving skill as I watched him on tv for years doing a fantastic job.

I have no wish to upset you, and so please feel free to ignore this question....

I was disappointed when he advocated a magic magnetic something or other for fuel. Do you know the story of that? Was he fooled by someone else, or was he trying to do a shonky? Or were all involved simply mistaken? My guess is that he was si
mply mistaken or fooled because I'd hate to think he was shonky.
Fair question.
Motor Racing is full of "Shonks", but Peter was not one of them.
The "Magnetic Device" to which you refer was the "Energy Polarizer"', and Brock believed in it TOTALLY.
People might find it hard to believe, but He did,...He wasn't asking people tobelieve in anything that He didn't believe in himself. In fact, He believed in it so much, it cost him his multi million dollar business, "HDT Special Vehicles", which modified a total of 4246 vehicles over the 7 years that Brock operated it. It was a "license to print money". These cars are now extremely collectable.
After racing at Lemans, Brock was stuffed, He was phyically drained, He was drinking, smoking, & eating the wrong food. Bev sent him to Eric Dowker the "Guru" chiropractor, who cured him, introducing him to crystals at the same time. It wasn't the crystals that cured him, it was giving up the smokes, drink, & a proper diet that "cured" him, but Brock was persuaded that crystals had something to do with it, .....so Brock asked could the same "methodology" be applied to Motor cars, engines etc,...which led to the creation of the "Energy Polarizer", which was a little box filled with resin & magnets, which was supposed to "align" the car's molecules, enable it to run on 22psi tyres etc. Holden could find no 'technical merit" in the device, which if it was fitted to a Holden, they would have to guarantee Brock's claims. They would have nothing to do with the Polarizer, and this & other linked events led to the Holden split which cost Peter his business & a lot of dollars.
This a very brief explanation, so I hope it gives you some idea.
Pickles.

[Redback]

That was the worst made, worst acting show I have ever seen, I'd be ashamed if I made that load a crap.

As for a correct adaptation of his life, apparently it was, Bev Brock said so.

But Jesus it crap.

Peter Brock would be turning in his grave!!

[rangieman]

I do`nt care much for the man the movie or his personal life:cool:
But hell could the man drive;)

[Rextheute]

I'm torn , I wanted to like it , if only to celebrate the man and his machines , the legacy of P Brock , " elbow resting on the window , sideways across the top " .

Never again in our automotive history will there be another like him .

[Pickles2]

I'm torn , I wanted to like it , if only to celebrate the man and his machines , the legacy of P Brock , " elbow resting on the window , sideways across the top " .

Never again in our automotive history will there be another like him .
You don't have to be torn,...the man was, & always will be, a TRUE legend.
He believed in himself absolutely, sometimes to his own detriment, sometimes dratically so, as is evidenced by past events.
I'll just give you one example of what He was like. Many years ago, We organized to get Bev & Peter up to Echuca for a Car Club event on a weekend. We let the local press know, & Brock was, as usual, mobbed. I had to get him back to the Motel for dinner, but he wouldn't leave the display area. Anyway, we eventually got him into his car, Bev was driving, so Pete was in the passenger seat, so viewable from the footpath. Although He was running late, when He was recognized by a group of rather scruffy local teenagers, He insisted on stopping, & got out of his car to speak to them!!..How many celebs would do that?
Just remember him the way you always did, the man who thrilled & gave enormous pleasure to Aussies for just about his whole life,...and He did go out doing what He loved.
Pickles.

[scarry]

That was the worst made, worst acting show I have ever seen, I'd be ashamed if I made that load a crap.

As for a correct adaptation of his life, apparently it was, Bev Brock said so.

But Jesus it crap.

Peter Brock would be turning in his grave!!

Thats why i watched half the first part, and none of the second.:(

[Rextheute]

I'm torn , coz it's not how I remember him - I choose to remember him as you do , a driven ,challenged and yes you're spot on often to his own detriment legend .
Ta PB !

[Walruslike]

Thanks Pickles for that background on the circumstances... It is sad that his life led him to such a false belief. I'm glad to hear that he believed it though.... He was misled, as we all can be at times.

But yeah... I'm passing on all that, and am just going to remember the phenomenal racing skill that could guide a car so consistently through the track on the perfect line for hours on end.

[67hardtop]

I watched the dramaticised movie of Brocky last night. Some accuracies but as they said in the beginning it wasnt a doco. I met the Man on several occasions as a young bloke, (myself young that is), and he was an impressive human being. He knew how to steer a car. But in his personal life, behind closed doors, he had his issues. Enough said. Great man, great driver, very driven. Everything had to be right. I even worked on his car once at city holden during the rally. The 3 vr commodores. He was driving as was ross dunkerton and ed ordynski (?). We were their service stop that evening when they were in adelaide. I remember fitting new discs and pads to his car. Refitting the wheels and torqueing the nuts up with a torque wrench. No rattle guns, only for undoing the wheel nuts. They were using specially made rotors that had curved fins in the ventilated part of the rotor and, believe it or not, they were using holden calibra calipers coz they had bigger brake pad area than vr calipers. I also remember they had shu roos fitted on front and dunco thought they were crap coz he had hit a roo and we had to fit a new headlight to his car. All in half an hour. All the workshop mechanics that were there had a pic taken with Brocky in the car and us surrounding it. Of course the dealer principal was in on the act as well. Good publicity i spose. That was the second last time i ever seen Brocky. Last time was at birdwood mill motor museum he was signing autographs. Great man. ****ty movie. But a few truths in it.

Cheers Rod

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