Glind/Twine shower in a Defender?

[Greylandy]

Hi,

Just got a Glind Hot Water shower and was wondering where is the best spot to position the heat exchanger and pump? There doesn't seem to be much space in the engine bay with the most obvious location at the back next to the air filter. Any ideas? Pics will be great style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Cheers,

Henry.

[Bushie]

Greylandy

I've positioned the heat exchanger on the fire wall and the hose to connect to the head is a gemini hose. (CH1226)

http://www.aulro.com/albums/album121/Defender_mod_05.jpg

Unfortunatley the pump is up under the right guard so no photos.


Bushie

[RoverOne]

Originally posted by Greylandy
Hi,

Just got a Glind Hot Water shower and was wondering where is the best spot to position the heat exchanger and pump? There doesn't seem to be much space in the engine bay with the most obvious location at the back next to the air filter. Any ideas? Pics will be great style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Cheers,

Henry.

Like Bushie mine (Twine) is up on the firewall & the pump on top of right guard as you face in (it would actually be O/S), fairly easy to fit.

http://www.aulro.com/albums/album307/Defender_Twine_Shower.sized.jpg
A mate with a TD5 130 put his Glind on O/S guard, works ok there.

Cheers
Bryce

[Greylandy]

Thanks Bushie ... thanks Bryce. If I mount it on the firewall it will have to be vertical as the air filter box on the TD5 gets in the way ... or the O/S guard like Bryce's mate.

[cameron]

Hi Bryce and Bushie,
I have been planning to install a heat exchanger in the same spot in my 300tdi 130 as you have used - it seems like the best place by far.

A question though - I have the pump (I am planning to mount this in the tool box under the drivers seat with my compressor) but not the heat exchanger yet so I can choose what configuration of inlets and outlets that I want. For example all pipes at one end or half at one and half at the other etc. I am thinking of going with a helton heat exchanger as their price is great and they offer these options.

With the benefit of your own efforts and experience and having no doubt seen plenty of other people's setups how would you go if you could do it all again (by waving a magic wand of course!)

Also do you have any advice re the heat that the heat exchanger can get into the shower water when the engine is sitting at idle?

Thanks in advance,
Cameron

[TheEntertainer]

I've been looking for a good quality one myself?

[defenderbilby]

Any suggestions on where to mount the heat exchanger on the Defender Td5, no room against firewall. Just brought the Glind unit.
Thanks,
David.

[noddy]

Mine sits just above the centrifugal filter, running parrell with the engine....hard to explain....I will get a photo for you tonight :? :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[VladTepes]

or you could do what I;m going to.

9 litre bucket. One kettle hot water, top up with cold.
Cheap 12v shower setup from a camping shop --> perfect shower.

and cheap.


So what is it that these expensive units do so much better that's it's worth the price ?

[matbor]

nice simply DIY one in this month's 4WD monthly....

uses a cheap $20 shower with pump and he has put a foot switch on it too, good idea for saving water !!

love the way he warms the water, blige pump with garden hose, big bucket and what looks like cooper tubing that u put in the fire and run the water though, simple idea.

check it out.

[cameron]

Hi Vlad,
In some ways I have to agree despite the fact that I have opted for the mounted heat exchanger.

Where the heat exchanger wins I think is if you have to co-ordinate showers for more than one and if you want to be able to have it straight away without having to wait until camp is set up and you have a stove on or even a pot on the fire.

The cheap shower units have a lot going for them though - the shureflow pump I installed pumps way too much water unless you have an unlimited supply on hand.

I am going to be either using the el-cheapo shower unit or I am going to replace the bigger pressure pump with a lower flow unit and mount that instead.

Cheers,
Cameron

[noddy]

Defenderbilly -- attached are some pics of the Twine in the TD5. There ain't much room!!! The only problem with this location is getting to the centrifugal filter, but that just makes both the filters a pain in the arse to get at!

Hope this helps.


Twine Heat Exchanger
http://www.aulro.com/albums/album436/Img0097.sized.jpg


Switch and pump
http://www.aulro.com/albums/album436/Img0098.sized.jpg


http://www.aulro.com/albums/album436/Img0096.sized.jpg

[disconut]

Hi all,
I went through this with a Glind on my TDi300 Disco. I would not bother again. Check out the quick connect system from Glind. You just clip in the heat exchanger when required.

I'm a bit like Vlad, going cheap next time. We currently have a black shower bag and shower tent set up for the bush, otherwise its a caravan park.

Trev.

[rangieman]

Ok id like to know how you adjust the heat of the water with the glind as i understand you use your hand throttle


well my Tdi doesnt have a hand throttle how do we overcome this

cause id luv a exchanger type of shower setup https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[disconut]

http://www.glind.com.au/htm/product.asp

http://www.glind.com.au/htm/files/docs/lit...ttle-ripper.pdf (http://www.glind.com.au/htm/files/docs/little-ripper.pdf)

Shunt - Turn your Glind Original or Glind Little Ripper into a portable and remote unit. Two sets of couplings are required, one set in the vehicle and the other connected to the heat exchanger that you have mounted to a board or in a box. When space is a problem or you change vehicles regularly, this system is a snap. Extra couplings can also be purchased to run the Glind hardware on more than 1 vehicle. The Shunt couplings are full bore and come with locking taps to avoid any mishaps associated with the coupling coming undone. Refer to the Instructions page to see how easy this is - AUD $99.00

You can also fit a valve into the coolant line and throttle the flow if you need to.

Trev.

[defenderbilby]

Thanks Noddy for pictures. Will start this project next week.
I have also just used a bucket with warm water but in recent times have been taking a few people from work who have never been 4x4/camping before.
Next trip includes 5 young ladies https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ who have asked to come along and their only concern was..
(1) Are there toilets...As this is their first trip away I will camp where there is one of the new type windy loos, will introduce them to the shovel if they decide to go away again for another adventure.
(2) I must be able to have a shower...well with the Glind system that will be taken care of. I can fill up some buckets in back of ute with the water pump and drive back to camp and set up the shower system each night.
Just took some photos to work of some of the places we have been and they were keen to go out for the experience. All seats taken in 4x4s.

David

[RoverOne]

Originally posted by defenderbilby
Thanks Noddy for pictures. Will start this project next week.
I have also just used a bucket with warm water but in recent times have been taking a few people from work who have never been 4x4/camping before.
Next trip includes 5 young ladies https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ who have asked to come along and their only concern was..
(1) Are there toilets...As this is their first trip away I will camp where there is one of the new type windy loos, will introduce them to the shovel if they decide to go away again for another adventure.
(2) I must be able to have a shower...well with the Glind system that will be taken care of. I can fill up some buckets in back of ute with the water pump and drive back to camp and set up the shower system each night.
Just took some photos to work of some of the places we have been and they were keen to go out for the experience. All seats taken in 4x4s.

David

G'Day Dave,

Get Hugh to send you some pics of his Glind set up as well, same situation under bonnet as yours, his was not complicated & works well, like mine.

BTW picked up series 2a ex army today, needs a little tlc & some spares to complete.

Cheers
Bryce

[camel_landy]

What's with all this talk about hot showers :?:

Next we're going to be discussing what's the best temperature to chill our Babychams to and what colour piping best suits the new pink upholstery????

I just have a 'T' and a tap between my water pump and filter for my shower. When I want to use it, I just attach the hose, shower head and off I go.

Mark.

[Redback]

Originally posted by camel_landy
What's with all this talk about hot showers :?:

Next we're going to be discussing what's the best temperature to chill our Babychams to and what colour piping best suits the new pink upholstery????

I just have a 'T' and a tap between my water pump and filter for my shower. When I want to use it, I just attach the hose, shower head and off I go.

Mark.

I have purple piping with my pink upholstery, matches my handbag on offroading occasions with friends https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Nothing wrong with a bit of comfort in the bush :wink:

Mounting where Noddy has his is best on the TD5 it's where you mount it in the Disco as well Henry.

Baz.

[Taz]

Just wondering if you guys with heat exchangers on your Tdi's can have a hot shower in the morning.... ie, at idle after a cold start, does the Tdi warm up the shower water enough? My Tdi stays hot for ages after a decent run -showers for everyone, but she also runs very cool in the mornings if I just let her idle.

Would appreciated any comments from the guys with these setups at it's the only issue holding me back from getting one.

Thanks in adv,
Taz.

[RoverOne]

Originally posted by Taz
Just wondering if you guys with heat exchangers on your Tdi's can have a hot shower in the morning.... ie, at idle after a cold start, does the Tdi warm up the shower water enough? My Tdi stays hot for ages after a decent run -showers for everyone, but she also runs very cool in the mornings if I just let her idle.

Would appreciated any comments from the guys with these setups at it's the only issue holding me back from getting one.

Thanks in adv,
Taz.

Best to have shower straight after tent set up etc as enginge still hot & no worries with idling car to warm up.

When in camp for long period, idling car for warm up to use shower good to recharge 2nd battery usually have idling for 5 minutes or so per shower & warm up time.

Wouldn't go away without mine for extended trips into the bush, we use it a lot. Under the bonnet, can't forget to pack, & if you get close enough to the river with a 40' hose can shower as long as the river runs.

BTW throw in the bucket of hot water type don't last long , rubber seals not meant for hot water. I used to sell them wholesale & got many returns from retailers.

Cheers
Bryce

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by camel_landy
What's with all this talk about hot showers :?:

Next we're going to be discussing what's the best temperature to chill our Babychams to and what colour piping best suits the new pink upholstery????

I just have a 'T' and a tap between my water pump and filter for my shower. When I want to use it, I just attach the hose, shower head and off I go.

Mark.



<span style="color:blue">are you showering with the engine coolant......?
or did i miss something....?

this sounds too easy.....</span>