Exchanging my 2012 L322 for a Disco

[GregMilner]

I'm vaguely/moderately/possibly/maybe thinking about considering the mild chance of moving on my perfectly-good, still-under-warranty, 64,000km 2012 TDV8 Vogue, and getting into a new or slightly-used D4 HSE.

Is this a backwards step? Am I insane? Or just schizophrenic? (Thought I was once, but now in two minds about it.)

The Disco appeals because of a) flat load space, and more of it, b) ability to add bar and lights, c) better re-sale. Downside: less grunt, narrower, firmer ride, not as plush, and a bit, er, 'common.'

Has anyone ever done this swap? Regretted or otherwise?

[Graeme]

I went from a 2010 3.0 D4 fitted with new 2012 shocks to my current 2012 L322 in the most part for the expected ride improvement due to the CVDs and the biggest improvement was indeed the ride. Depending on how accustomed to the ride you have become, a move to a D4 could be disappointing until you became accustomed to normal shocks again. However if you were considering a future D5 then it currently appears that you would have to get used to normal shocks again anyway.

[GregMilner]

Do the later model (e.g. 2016) D4s not have CVDs Graeme?

[LandyAndy]

No they don't.
Andrew

[Tombie]

But then it doesn't fail in the middle of nowhere Greg [emoji6]

CVDs really aren't the world of hard offroad - they generate way too much heat...

[justinc]

Backwards step Greg, 100%!

I drive and work on both and i would say you will be a little disappointed. ..

A bit like buying a big bore single road trail bike, you wouldn't go back to a 125cc step through would you??? 😂

Jc

[Milton477]

Ok, what's a CVD? Uncle G thinks it is cardio vascular disease. Glad my D4 hasn't got it/them.

[justinc]

Ok, what's a CVD? Uncle G thinks it is cardio vascular disease. Glad my D4 hasn't got it/them.

Continuosly variable damper.

A fancy technologically advanced shock absorber. ...

Jc

[rar110]

Can a standard L322 shock be temporarily fitted in place of a CVD? That could be a solution for when doing remote trips.

[Graeme]

CVDs have their bump and rebound firmness softened based on suspension movement extent and frequency, as determined from suspension height sensor data, as well as other operational parameters. L322s with CVDs glide over bumps at speed noticeably exhibiting virtually no bounce and have very supple suspension at off-road height.

[Graeme]

Can a standard L322 shock be temporarily fitted in place of a CVD? That could be a solution for when doing remote trips.Yes, for the rear in a practical sense, although I have yet to determine what's required to prevent the ecu from disabling control of the other CVDs when one is no longer available, or even if it does disable control of the others. The removed CVD could be moved inside the vehicle and reconnected electrically but not nice if it's covered in oil.

[BobD]

CVDs have their bump and rebound firmness softened based on suspension movement extent and frequency, as determined from suspension height sensor data, as well as other operational parameters. L322s with CVDs glide over bumps at speed noticeably exhibiting virtually no bounce and have very supple suspension at off-road height.


My new discovery Sport, which I pick up next week, has been ordered with Adaptive Dynamics. This monitors the suspension movements etc 1000 times per second compared with 500 for the Vogue. I wonder if that means it will ride better on its steel springs!!


Its interesting that they have this system on the DS but not the new D5. I have no idea what it will drive like and I was told yesterday that mine is the first DS TD4 180 Ingenium to be delivered in Australia. I hope it doesn't break down as I drive out of the showroom.

[Graeme]

Perhaps LR found that CVDs were required with steel springs to get a soft enough ride with enough bounce control.

[Nicky]

My new discovery Sport, which I pick up next week, has been ordered with Adaptive Dynamics. This monitors the suspension movements etc 1000 times per second compared with 500 for the Vogue. I wonder if that means it will ride better on its steel springs!!


Its interesting that they have this system on the DS but not the new D5. I have no idea what it will drive like and I was told yesterday that mine is the first DS TD4 180 Ingenium to be delivered in Australia. I hope it doesn't break down as I drive out of the showroom.

addition or swap?

[BobD]

Addition. The D4 is for the work horse role, towing and outback touring and the DS does the daily driver role to replace a Skoda Yeti we currently have.